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Discussion #9356Talk Sense

17 Jun 2016 16:26:01
always look for news when a event happens and cliff Richard not getting prosecuted,

reading the article which is misleading in that it comes across as he is innocent when in fact its more a lack of evidence.

 

{Ed001's Note - is a lack of evidence not innocent then? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? You can't expect them to say anything other than he is innocent, until it is proven in court, as they would get the arse sued out of them.}
frankyscouser
17 Jun 2016 17:13:09
its a fine line granted but a lack of evidence could mean a key witness dying, that does not mean he is innocent .
{Ed001's Note - no but it does mean he has to be treated as innocent.}
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frankyscouser
17 Jun 2016 17:46:14
the only thing richard can have any grievance over is he was named publicly, he wants all charges thrown out, in which he wants to be officially told he's innocent. But without a trial.
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southampton87
17 Jun 2016 19:41:13
I do hear ya frankie
I got a small example, My ADHD little brother did something years ago. Any how next morning door came off I got arrested and when't to court.

My brother admitted it and said I was nothing to do with it. I had 5 witnesses that said I was not there, but 1 witness was truly mistaken said it was me.

But in court they switched between me and my brother 3 times then said we where both there lol. So you would think I'm free my brother is going to take his trouble on his chin, but Oh no, we both got found guilty and sent to butlins, bogna Regis I think.

But the whole system is lopsided, been like that for ever. I do think it's the sir in there name that does it, starting to think so anyway.
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frankyscouser
17 Jun 2016 20:45:21
the system is flawed no doubt .
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Sanogolovesbentner
18 Jun 2016 11:11:40
I think if they want you to get done and there's a glimmer of a chance they can and they don't have the real or alternative culprit then done you will be. Also it's no seceret that people have been protected from prosicution for years Lord janner but to name one. But even with that said I have to agree with innocent till found guilty no matter how bent I think the system is. We can't live in a society where people are guilty until proven innocent.
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Discussion #5274Talk Sense

17 Jun 2016 12:36:32
Short discussion between James Corbett and James Evan Pilato on robotisation in the work place and government trying to stop people growing food in their gardens.

 

southampton87
17 Jun 2016 19:32:36
Good video ed
Thing with tech and you might agree is
That once the first working concept of each type comes out
It all will gain momentum and get better and better in shorter spaces of time
But that veg growing being made illegal is just disgusting
Stopping people doing for themselves
No different to pointing the sheep to the GMO crap
There so eager push to us
Greed.
{Ed033's Note - if they can get people to actually believe the government can tell them they can't grow food on their own private property, then it makes it easier to fulfil the GMO agenda of all human food being 100% GMO.
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Discussion #9355Talk Sense

16 Jun 2016 22:46:53
i don't normally have knee jerk reactions to a tragedy like jo cox murder but all I am going to say this . within hours the press have named and got links to the accused far right connections.

granted she was a mp and will have a higher profile but this info coming out seems very prepared .

 

southampton87
17 Jun 2016 09:45:45
The way they have lied though there teeth about the truth of Europe this was inevitable.

Sorry to say, but it's only going to get worse. Common sense, tells you everything they did yesterday went against how a good investigation is done. And like you said, it painted a perfect picture for the mainstream media to play on.

I don't know about this myself because I'm in England but there is a man called Stefan Molyneux on youtube, who said that the media in America disclosed it as two men who were in an argument and jo cox got between them.

His next door neighbour said he was not political in any way. There are many reasons this stinks to high heaven.

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frankyscouser
17 Jun 2016 12:35:15
speaking personally, the momentum of brexit has just had a pin inserted into it,

it won't stop people who want out to change their minds but the stay campaign will have voters who will vote in now because of this event/ sacrifice also I see many undecided floating voters who will vote remain now because of this .
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KimPhilby
17 Jun 2016 14:12:55
Cynical attempt to smear the leave campaign.
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jimmyjones
17 Jun 2016 14:19:09
To be honest Frankie I don't think this will make much difference to the outcome, He was supposed to have been shouting about "Britain First" but they have come out and said they know nothing of the man.

If the remain campaigners were to try and politicise this and try to cosh the public with it, I don't think it would sit too well and wouldn't be forgotten quickly.
What has just made me grimace is the sight of Cameron, Corbyn and bercow spouting on about democracy and the good of the nation, while trying their hardest to drag us further away from it and into hands of there unelected controllers in Brussels.

As long as the sane amongst us keep our eye on the ball, we should get the required result on Thursday.
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HP
17 Jun 2016 14:29:55
The thing here is that people across the land need to understand, that the people in power are dishonest/ corrupt types (not all), and will do anything to keep their agenda on track, the terrible actions yesterday just proves that. The world is in place right now that is run from a position of fear and dishonesty, and the EU is a nonsense club made up of these types of individuals. As long as these people are in power, the world will be a poor place. Things need to change drastically, and quickly, with honest people and responsible, accountable people in power. A clear message needs to be broadcast globally constantly showing the truths to aide 'waking up'
The world needs to be run from a position of Love, and I believe this will happen one day (hopefully in our lifetime.

I still think Brexit will be eventual winners.
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Discussion #11163Talk Sense

16 Jun 2016 19:53:27
Orlando Shooting False Flag - Crisis Actors Taken Wrong Direction

 

southampton87
17 Jun 2016 02:18:14
I've just watched a video online
That backs what another poster and I think you have said
That the doors where being held .
I will try post a link.
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Discussion #12075Talk Sense

16 Jun 2016 17:49:58
A wee Warning to Corbyn today. Tow the line drop the Blair interest?

 

southampton87
16 Jun 2016 21:01:30
Yh it was deffently a message.
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Discussion #9780Talk Sense

16 Jun 2016 16:55:15
I'm not one for this but with the remain losing, an mp gets shot in the streets by a guy purportedly shouting Britain first. Does that qualify as a false flag or just another lunatic?

 

southampton87
16 Jun 2016 17:20:33
I would say the establishment is panicking hard about the two blond ones.
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horse4-bronze-coin1 horse10-bronzeribbonplate-1ew horse14-bronzeplate-1w Oncearedalwaysared
16 Jun 2016 17:27:02
I'm from the area, I think this is far more likely a buffoon that the MPs will use in their favour.
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southampton87
16 Jun 2016 18:28:09
First off I should have said
Rip to this poor woman and thoughts go to hear family
Has anyone picked up on first it was a man in a white cap and now a black cap
And then the man called abdullaha I think is the only one who has said the man screamed britian first three times
Tell you the truth this is the type thing the ones that control us do to sway votes
Does not matter what supposed democracy you live
Jamaican one years ago
American
British
Russian
It does not matter
All they care about is what they want
And with majority of people supporting out
In defiance of all there scare stories
This is excatly what they needed
The governments of all people should be ashamed of themselves.
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southampton87
16 Jun 2016 18:29:17
Just think about what all politicians have been cuaght at the last twenty years.
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Rian
16 Jun 2016 18:34:54
It's just awful and I can't help but think of her family and how devastated they must be. She has two young children who have lost their mother. What a terrible act of savagery to commit on behalf of an idealogical belief.

It's hard to know whether her killer was just some lone nutter or something more organised, I guess we'll know more over time.

Either way I think that's your Brexit gone now.
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Discussion #11518Talk Sense

15 Jun 2016 23:57:48
Did anyone see the Biased Broardcast Center haha
They have tried to show a fan with his head coverd back to the camera
Saying he is one of the Russian fans been trained to go euros to fight loool
I know Russians are game and if English fans are going to chant Russia we hate you there is bound to be trouble
But what are the real chances a real Russian trained hooligan is going to sit on BBC and broadcast that Putin organised this!
I think it is fully unlikely

I did think this is part of Cameron's plan to show we need to stay in Europe becuase of Russia
And Cameron already sent payment to the kremlin lol or federal reserve lol.

Oh know my kettle broke
We can't leave EU lol.

 

KimPhilby
16 Jun 2016 13:23:40
Even though these gangs are exactly that.
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Discussion #10884Talk Sense

14 Jun 2016 20:24:44
Couple of questions, firstly my early guess with the Orlando shootings is that it was just a man with a few loose screws. Think we will know more over the coming days. What's your views? Also with the Pound dropping in value, is this the powers that be influencing the market so it looks like the leave would have a negative impact?

 

{Ed033's Note - The pound dropping could be due to a number of reasons
southampton87
14 Jun 2016 22:54:20
I think it is quite funny how many have now shouted a well known saying in a random attack and our media covered it up as they are mental
1 in France
1 in England
1 in Germany
Now 1 in America
And that white supremacy man that shot all them people with a rifle sorry didn't bother remembering the name he was on a bridge and one in England at Leightonstone train station
There may be more than this.
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GracieBhoy
15 Jun 2016 15:58:07
He also pledged allegiance to various terrorist groups after the shootings, some of which are enemies to each other.
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Sanogolovesbentner
15 Jun 2016 21:50:02
Forget about the pound dropping ed. we need the penny to drop.
{Ed033's Note - yes, good one
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southampton87
16 Jun 2016 00:00:03
Still broke sanogo
So probably be a while :) ) )
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Sanogolovesbentner
16 Jun 2016 07:45:08
Everyone is designed to be broke of at least that's what they want. Like a vampire King wanting hisrats to work tirelessly just for the promise of one day letting them have five seconds on his nipple lol.
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Discussion #5273Talk Sense

12 Jun 2016 19:16:21
The REAL EU agenda - David Icke.

 

kingkenny7
12 Jun 2016 20:19:28
Icke spelling out the true agenda, thanks for posting ed033.
{Ed033's Note - ok thanks
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p1
12 Jun 2016 21:29:05
I'd already voted out just over a week ago for many of the reasons stated in this video. Just can't believe the amount of sheeple who are blind and ignorant which listen to the lies and deceit who are contemplating staying in. Thanks for the reassurance though.
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Discussion #2199Talk Sense

12 Jun 2016 18:54:43
Edd033 with the tragic mass shooting in Orlando what's your opinion on gun control?

 

{Ed033's Note - gun control won't stop criminals, extremists, terrorists or government agency assets (whether mind controlled or not) from obtaining guns and carrying out mass shootings.

Americans need The Second Amendment in order to protect themselves from all enemies; foreign and domestic, just like the Swiss people do.
kingkenny7
12 Jun 2016 20:37:30
The americans will never give up there "rights" to bear arms, no president will ever get laws changed in congress to stop the madness, no matter who does the killings, be that adults or children, nothing that has happened, be it school massacres or children accidently shooting there parents or brothers and sisters because they have got there hands on guns have curbed the publics appetite to own and shoot guns, its in the constitution, crocodile tears and public inquries can come and go and they carry on as normal, I heard more about the gorilla being shot and killed than I did about the mass shooting in orlando, the hypocrisy is staggering and says a lot about how much a human life is really worth. ( no offence to the gorilla who was a victim of human error and sadly paid the price) .
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frankyscouser
12 Jun 2016 21:32:47
i am totally against any guns but anyone thinking the only agenda is to ban them and protect innocent people then I think you are sadly mistaken.
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Rian
13 Jun 2016 00:08:56
I don't wish to seem insensitive to the tragic death and injury to so many people but I'm extremely sceptical about the msm narrative of this terrible event.

One man shot and killed 50 and shot and injured 50+ people? Declared allegiance to ISIS beforehand? Really?

Attempts to change public opinion on the 2nd amendment have failed up to now, but with an election coming up in November, the timing of this and its potential use by both Trump and particularly Hillary as a means to prep the US for a constitutional amendment post November is deeply worrying.
{Ed033's Note - highly possible you are correct, Rian
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frankyscouser
13 Jun 2016 11:25:37
i am no expert on usa laws by any means but it would take something very big to get them banned .

you will see the election using this event to gain power for different reasons

trump will will be pro guns
clinton anti, well up to now anyway, that could change if a donor offers her money.

did I think was a false flag?
no the guy did shoot those poor people .
was it a act of terrorism?
thats were it gets murky for me,

do I think it was isis? hell no.
have no idea at the moment the connection is as its way to soon but things will drip feed out.
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KimPhilby
13 Jun 2016 11:48:24
There's a rumour the guy claimed allegiance. IS soon as they heard that have claimed it. But the guy was probably no more a fully paid up member as me or franky. Likely a sympathiser acting on his own. IS are losing ground in Iraq and Syria and need a propaganda boost. By claiming this, the biggest mass shooting in America they get publicity and maybe a few more idiots for cannon fodder.
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Discussion #12074Talk Sense

12 Jun 2016 18:43:31
Hilarious Clintons first war has already been planned, some more seeds sown in Orlando.

 

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