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23 Jun 2016 20:50Discussion #12518Talk Sense

23 Jun 2016 21:40:07
Why was Kay Burley on sky repeatedly saying "the stronger" in camp. How would they know, any one I speak to is voting or has voted out. Media bias, slight mind control. When I went to vote I noticed loads of signs more than needed saying way in and poling station. Way IN polINg station maybe attempt to sway the undecided with subliminal 'in' messaging.

{Ed033's Note - This subliminal visual type stuff seems to work according to experiments, so who knows.

Onceared23 Jun 2016 21:34

23 Jun 2016 22:21:30
It's amazing how once the votes are in, they're already starting to talk about the downsides of EU, expect to see a lot more bad Europe stories over the coming days.

Think remain have won, but thought that would be the case when it was first announced.

{Ed033's Note - And what's amazing is that everyone will believe there was no rigging at all.

We know that the Scottish people, if given a vote would vote to be independent of Westminster and we know the last general election should have been a hung parliament for sure, but everyone seems to believe that no rigging takes place.

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Onceared23 Jun 2016 21:53

23 Jun 2016 22:40:04
ed033, it would be far too easy to rig, if it's heavy towards remain something will be dodgy. But I can see how it will go, it will be the 'leave are just being paranoid and conspiracy theorists!'.

{Ed033's Note - tomorrow morning maybe the official 'Remain' announcement along with a short nonsense speech.

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Shadrak23 Jun 2016 22:47

23 Jun 2016 23:31:48
I believe Britain should leave for the same reason Scotand should have parted ways with London rule. You shouldn't have people who don't live in that country voting on the laws those people should live by. If you break down the governance then it let's you redistribute the power and as far as I can see there are far to few people with to much power.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds good, but the 'power elite' centralise power in order to control lots of people.

And most people have no clue that there is a 'power elite' or whatever you want to call them so they can get away with centralising power more and more.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 22:50

23 Jun 2016 23:42:45
The moment the Scottish referendum result was revealed, I knew it was rigged.

{Ed033's Note - And if they rigged the Scottish referendum for the result they wanted, why wouldn't they rig the EU vote for the result they want?

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Shadrak23 Jun 2016 22:58

23 Jun 2016 23:56:49
The farther away your rulers are the more opportunities they have to protect themselves with laws and police and armies. One day they will become completely untouchable. Heck who am I kidding, it's already happening.

{Ed033's Note - yes, already happening and then some.

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23 Jun 2016 16:01Discussion #12078Talk Sense

23 Jun 2016 16:18:13
Gunman opening fire on cinema complex on day of EU ref, conveniently before the main news and people coming home from work.
A move which will influence votes on 1 side of the Brexit debate.

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23 Jun 2016 11:06Discussion #9846Talk Sense

23 Jun 2016 12:04:21
Just been to vote and I asked the lady on the desk why is there only pencils to use and could I use my own pen. She said I could use my own pen. I asked her could people be able to rub pencil markings out and rob peoples vote. My word she didn't take that well. She was a typical new age traveller phoney, you know the one white middle class with dread lock's and probably never smoked a joint at university, shame really because I was stoned in most lectures, they were that boring.
Rant over.

Rian23 Jun 2016 11:37

23 Jun 2016 12:36:21
That is worrying. I'm sure most people will just use the pencil without thinking about it.

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southampton8723 Jun 2016 13:13

23 Jun 2016 14:02:03
I just stabbed a hole in the leave box
With there fake pencil lol.

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Mr.x23 Jun 2016 14:08

23 Jun 2016 14:25:31
You have probably just figured out how they do it lol.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 14:08

23 Jun 2016 14:57:28
Always take a black pen with you guys and girls. Always.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 14:51

23 Jun 2016 15:51:09
By the way guys, I know when it comes to sports the bookies aren't a reliable source of info, but what about politics?

Remain is 1/ 8 favourite, while Leave is 5/ 1.

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23 Jun 2016 11:06Discussion #9945Talk Sense

23 Jun 2016 11:53:48
While I'm on he subject of magnetism, my theory is that those "flying saucers" are in fact not of extraterrestrial origin but human made. Let me explain. As you know the earth is magnetic and if you have an electro magnet strong enough it can create lift. The military "black budget" funded this. In my opinion those " flying saucers" cannot fly in the empty vacuum of space as there is no magnetic force to push back the powerful magnets that create lift for the craft. The elite and the special forces of the world are probably testing and optimising these crafts. Why. I can only speculate maybe a false alien invasion to unite the world and usher in there " new world order " this is just my theory. I want to believe in extraterrestrial life and I'm not trying to say that all ufo craft are human made but more than probably a number of these craft are human made.

southampton8723 Jun 2016 12:47

23 Jun 2016 13:44:35
Ain't that what they call project blue beam
Dr Greer talks of this
Man made ufo can't remember the name they coined for it
They talk of a thing call astro locus
Also another name aurora
And tr. Something
Way I see it is nasa haven't got a proper real legitimate photo of our beautiful planet yet there wiz zing around space for signs of life
And yet there are only three bits of proof they talk of
1 other planets are round and a ball so are we
I would argue we are taught in school at a early age
Why we see a light bit in Center and darker on the out side
Is becuase that's what light does on a ball
But is that what you actually see
Not on about the use of a telescope that has a round lens to view thourgh
2 a old Greek man stuck sticks in the ground and the shadow told us the planet is round
Same can be done if the sun is closer than they say
3 gravity proves this gravity witch we can prove exist becuase a apple will fall on your head if you under a tree
Key word fall
Not get pulled on your head
Same if I jumped out of a plane I fall don't get pulled

Just think if we are in some some ones projected image or something's does what we are told become reality becuase we are now in a evolving image
Just a thought

1 thing is for certain and goes without saying
Is what ever reality is it is far from what we are told.

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southampton8723 Jun 2016 12:54

23 Jun 2016 13:49:04
By what I meant as well
is if the reality is not individually produced witch we can safely say
Becuase we all see the same sun earth weather at the same moment
If we worked individual we would all see different worlds
Unless we were all in a projection that had changes put into it witch then we adapt our perception to it
Sorry if I've made no sense.

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Mr.x23 Jun 2016 13:15

23 Jun 2016 14:14:53
If your talking about the holographic universe, I think what they mean is we are not some image being projected. If you break everything down we are really made of light. Or it goes something like that its not my strong point.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 14:08

23 Jun 2016 14:58:54
Wasn't there an experiment in Science calss in school where you could make a copper ring levitate and glow various colours depending on how much electricity you put through it?

I also remember reading about Nazi experiments with this.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 14:08

23 Jun 2016 15:04:01
And Southampton87, falling, pulling, pushing, etc. That's all a form of gravity.

The central mass (the core) in our planet is so dense that it creates a pull. If you stand on a steel beam in space and jump, you won't "fall", because there is little or no gravity. However, if you're close enough to something huge (I'm talking bigger than the Moon) then you'll more than likely slowly be pulled toward that mass.

Gravitational waves have also recently been discovered. I get the feeling that you're on the fence when it comes to the flat earth theory?

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22 Jun 2016 18:03Discussion #9429Talk Sense

22 Jun 2016 17:17:23
Wake Up! The whole reason this planet is so messed up is because of the elite. Particular families you should be researching is the Rothchilds and Rocketfellas. They own the EU. They created the 911 false flag attack with the help of Saudi. Why? So they could still for oil Centralise a Rothchild Banking system in each and every location they decide to when it comes to the Middle East.

We are all being deceived by our Governmrnts who are joining secret societies so the Rothchilds and Rockerfellas can take control of government actions. They play both sides of the party so no matter who wins they are in control. This is not fantasy this is fact and has been for years. There is no doubt these were they guys President John F Kennedy was warning us of before they had him executed.

Various other people as an example George Bush and Kerry were both caught out joining Skull and Bones 322 secret society. No matter who won Skull and Bones were in control. The corruption has set in and all these men need holding accountable for their treason. The Builderburg group is the UKs entry into the corruption.

But the Rothchilds are clearly Lucifarian. This can be proven with video footage from there house party and mock sacrifices at bohemian grove which can also be seen footage on YouTube. 911 was an inside job. The Rothchilds profited heavily as they did in world war 2 when they were funding both sides of the war. And selling them the oil for fuel. The wool has been pulled over your eyes. I double dare you to take a test kit for fluoride and test your water. Our dosage is pretty high. It calsifies the pineal gland so it affectively dumbs you down. It causes depression.

If that's not bad enough why do most tablets contain fluoride. David Rockerfella holds the cure for cancer away from you so he can gain profit from the NHS. Giving you chemo when that ups your chances of it returning. When in fact vitamin B17 and cannabis oil has been proven to work yet both banned by the FDA I wonder why? These people are manipulating you via tv by creating fear patterns with war propaganda.

Don't take my word for it research it and prove me wrong. There is a reason you are only using a small putt entail of your mind and that is because we are being dumbed down. Decalsefy your pineal gland by drinking plenty of pineapple juice and ph10 water. I was a mega depressant at one time since I woke up I feel better everyday. Take the time to prove me wrong and you will find these families will lead you down the rabbit hole.

{Ed033's Note - thank you for reminding us.

GracieBhoy22 Jun 2016 19:50

22 Jun 2016 20:26:38
What is meant by ph10 water?

{Ed033's Note - ph10 water means alkaline water. But don't think that drinking pineapple juice and alkaline water is going to decalcify your pineal gland. It's pretty obvious that as you have acid in your stomach, as soon as the alkaline water hits the stomach, that water will lower in ph pretty quickly.

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TheBlueman823 Jun 2016 10:16

23 Jun 2016 11:13:27
but would you not think there is someone or a power greater than the rothchilds/ rockafellers or whoever else are the controllers of this world?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.

now i'm not sure if its demons/ aliens/ or even reptiles from the centre of the earth but I do think there is someonething we have and will never see.

i speak and listen to people I know about conspiracy's and false flags and the way the world works on a daily basis and i'm shocked that the most obvious things that are happening that people just agree with it or are are oblivious to the effect that it causes, sheeple is a perfect word I seen in a previous post.

time for people to wake up and smell the pineapple and alkaline water. lol.

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Rian23 Jun 2016 10:46

23 Jun 2016 11:44:15
I think you'll find that most people here don't need to wake up. Sounds like you have woken up recently and good for you if you have.

Bush (Jnr and Snr) and Kerry in Skull and Bones is old news, certainly no secret, and that is nothing more than a diversion, just like Bilderberg.

Rothschild and Rockefeller are but 2 of about a dozen or so families / institutions that effectively run things on a global scale, though I suspect that the most powerful people on this planet would be names we wouldn't recognise.

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22 Jun 2016 18:03Discussion #11521Talk Sense

22 Jun 2016 14:34:38
David Icke talks about the 'Remain' group exploitation of Jo Cox

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22 Jun 2016 15:29Discussion #9944Talk Sense

22 Jun 2016 14:17:47
I've quite a difficult question to any of the eds. I've been trying to get my head around something called "sacred geometry" I'm just asking for the best information out there if you guys have the time. Maths is my strong point however I'm struggling to get my head about these shapes. Be as complex as you like about the numbers but if you can explain the shapes part as simple as you can that would be great. I'm positive that high level masons teach this if any you guys are out there. (cough cough ed 33 ) lol. I'm good at deciphering masonic mathematics eg. Ed. L's "fly wheel" and I would be happy to share what I know about masonic degrees and prime sums. Thanks and don't be shy to ask me, I enjoy it and I'm happy to share what I know with you.

{Ed033's Note - If you've figured out anything to do with how Ed Leedskalnin managed to lift multiple tonne pieces of coral by himself, then it would be great to write some type of paper or create a youtube video about it for the truth seeker community to take a look at.

No one can learn, know or teach all aspects of sacred geometry, you can easily spend your whole life contemplating/researching 1 pattern of sacred geometry and still not get to the bottom of it.

You can read books or watch youtube videos on the subject to learn more, but on top of sacred geometry, we have alchemy.

What you might want to watch to 'up' your thinking is take a look at the following video to see how Frank Chester discovered the The Chestahedron using sacred geometry and alchemy.

Mr.x23 Jun 2016 10:07

23 Jun 2016 10:33:43
Short answer ed "reverse magnetism" he doesn't lift the rock with magnetism he pushes it. Coral castle is built on land with a small layer of topsoil then its just bedrock. He more than likely dug a small trench under each rock attach magnets then using the opposite side of of another magnet ( an electro magnet) to push. The magnet would take a good part of the weight allowing him to move it without putting too much strain on his wooden tripod and chains. Once you have the initial lift of the rock you can build support under it and then repeat the process from a greater height bit by bit it will lift higher and higher, all he has to do is guide the stone with his chains and tripod. It was obvious to me that he used magnetism to lift. The maths behind magnetism Is complex I could write pages on it and I don't have the correct symbols on my phone to type it unfortunately.

{Ed033's Note - ok, thanks

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22 Jun 2016 13:07Discussion #9943Talk Sense

22 Jun 2016 13:55:29
Regarding below article. Its simply capitalism. If you think we live in a democracy sadly you are mistaken. As you guys say its not just the corporations that undermine our workers the government does it too. Our junior doctors probably pis**d them off with there strike for fair working hours and conditions. I don't mean to be degrading to European workers however everyone knows that they are used to low working standards and the corporations and government exploit this.

southampton8722 Jun 2016 16:01

22 Jun 2016 16:00:56
It's going to be rigged anyway
That is the only reason they would do counting
The same way as they did in the Scottish independence

They will count votes from area that they believe will vote in and if they have enoght they will stop panic
If not they will rig the postal vote and then stop panic.

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22 Jun 2016 01:07Discussion #11851Talk Sense

22 Jun 2016 00:09:35
In relation to the thred below. My wife is a senior staff nurse. Only last night she was telling me (and its happened a lot) she is having to work with spanish nurses and other eu nurses (who are often agency) who do not speak a word of English, literally. How is that helping the NHS? Her job is getting harder and having basic communication with other nurses is essential but then how is it the foreign nurses fault when there is nothing stopping them from working or some process by which they must learn the language.
You wouldn't let someone babysit your child if they couldn't understand a word you said to them.

frankyscouser22 Jun 2016 10:47

22 Jun 2016 11:45:32
wife had that problem when she worked in retail, her bosses passed the buck to her to direct overseas workers which in the end she ended up doing the job herself .

like I said in a thread below its greedy corporations who are voting in who hire these people on the cheap and who are unlikely to join any unions .

vote out and watch the worm turn .

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KimPhilby22 Jun 2016 11:36

22 Jun 2016 12:32:12
Worrying for a hospital. What if your in your local A and E and trying to explain to someone who doesn't grasp what your saying. Dangerous and imagine the law suits.

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southampton8722 Jun 2016 11:39

22 Jun 2016 11:53:39
Mate it is because EU ruling tells our company's including nhs they do not have a choice. Equal diversity in a work place, Lol only works one way.

And one more little point about their lies, I'm in a 1 bed flat with 4 children
If it gets worse than what I'm already in, It will be arguably worse conditions anybody in my whole block. But 3 council houses where available and I came 36 out of 512 people for that house.

So if camoron wants a bigger economy and more work, We need more nhs more doctors more schools and about a house to be built every 24 hours to stem the flow.

People need to wake up or people on the bottom become desperate and that is when the rich of our country then realise how much they messed up.

We could get people from India that can speak English Jamaicans can speak English people from the other side of the globe speaks English and attempted to be part of our country. At one point Hindu and so on have embraced this country And improved it no end.

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21 Jun 2016 20:45Discussion #5276Talk Sense

21 Jun 2016 21:42:54
Latest Richard D. Hall video. Part 2 is about the moon hoax theories and Mars rovers that actually may be on Earth. Part 3 is about the phenomena of animal and human mutilations.
Part 2 of 3

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21 Jun 2016 18:45Discussion #9781Talk Sense

21 Jun 2016 19:30:22
Simple question.

For those of you voting leave.

Assuming a leave vote and all the low paid eastern Europe migrant workers end up being sent back to their countries of origin.

Who takes over their jobs?

Supasub21 Jun 2016 20:00

21 Jun 2016 20:59:44
If they are already here then I don't think they would have to leave.

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southampton8721 Jun 2016 22:24

21 Jun 2016 22:32:53
That is where half the problem the Remainers they can do no better can offer any relief they just talk rubbish and use the BBC to hide the real facts
And to help them even more they try to go on like we are asking for a hitler affect
Complete joke.

But if we can introduce a point system then we can allow people in as needed and infanstructure can cope with help of adding to what we have doctors, schools, work, houses.
Something remain do not care about becuase there thinking about the big money bussiness
House prices will keep rising and if you got a shortage of housing to the extent they soar becuase the is not enough
Why keep allowing it?
Because they can't control it!
Madness

Kim there is 1.8 million unemployed in uk not all will work but some will
Wot Cameron did to pretend there was loads of work was put loads of 0 hour contracts out there (At least they're off job seekers list) lol

Even though people still have to be supported by the Welfare when they should have the opportunity of a career
To be able to afford mortgage and things to move forward in life
No one is saying no one will come here or that we will grab the German shepherds to round humans
This is britian in the 21 at century most of us do not won't that

When the EU become the union we should of had a say
Considering we never
But now we have
We should not be made to feel bad or be made feel bad for the wrong the government and snakes like tony Blair and co.
We are voting for democracy. our democracy no matter how bent people say it is at least it is in London for us to get to
Brussels is unaccountable and corrupt.

If a company don't get it's accounts signed off what happens
But EU make there own laws
And to your original point there are plenty people waiting for a job 50 hours plus to earn enough at minimum wage
Don't trust the snakes that say we all are lazy
That was the generation that was 35 +

Sorry to offended the hard working ones in that category
Something that does get missed when Blair signed off on the Lisbon and Maastricht treaty
We only just left school with loads of jobs to stack shelfs
No company would take our generation on and train us for positions
Can't blame them if u got a chance to swerve paying extra most company's jump on it

And that is what the governments game is
More sheep more tax
They just didn't take into account what misses the economy
And just how corrupt Brussels is and demanding they are when it comes to bail out
Another thing we shouldn't of had to do considering we ain't in the euro
England has 400 people per mile in England
France has around 100
Germany around 124
Poland around 34
Bulgaria around 17
Australia around 3
America around 7 I think it was
That is off my head but there in the ball park
I think England is actually 416
But bankers don't care about quality of life.

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Sanogolovesbentner21 Jun 2016 22:37

21 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Either do I. If there here already then you live with it. The problem is same as all the big companies who take money from uk customers and take it abroad with call centres been manned in foreign countries offshore banks etc. You have immigrants earning over here and sending their wages to their homelands. The problem is huge and immigrants are happy to live in third world conditions over here. I can't see how the problem is ever going to be sorted to be honest.

{Ed033's Note - All part of the agenda, you're not dealing with a sane agenda and i guess that's why hardly anyone can see it, but until it gets super bad, hardly anyone will see it is all part of the negative insane agenda.

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southampton8722 Jun 2016 01:07

22 Jun 2016 00:25:25
Agree sanogo and other posters

Ed stop! Stop! It's already in lol.

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frankyscouser22 Jun 2016 01:07

22 Jun 2016 00:29:01
who takes the jobs if we leave?
maybe it will force companies to offer full time jobs instead of zero hours contracts .

its a propaganda myth people from the uk turn their nose up at certain jobs, pay them a fair wage with suitable hours and the vacancies will be took.

lets be honest its greedy agencies and companies like Sports Direct who advertise abroad who should be named and shamed .

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21 Jun 2016 14:45Discussion #11520Talk Sense

21 Jun 2016 13:28:49
Sorry this is a replay to the numbers I posted
Sorry I don't know to much about it just remember seeing numbers possibly involved in princess Diana
So when I see a video with this I thought it would post
But as ever you are right
Kim all I could possibly say is if see 666 in films related to something bad
But is that a mix up then and the number regarding is different.

{Ed033's Note - Some of the Diana numbers are as follows (which is taken from the short article i wrote in the articles section of this web site):

Princess Diana was originally scheduled to come home from France on August 30th but a number of excuses were made so that she couldn't. The reason for this is, if they are going to do away with royalty, they have to do it in a ritual manner.

The goddess, Diana was worshipped at a festival on August 13, if you're going to end Diana's life (not worship her) then you would have to invert the number 13, which gives you 31 and you would have to commit the evil deed on August 31. (which is the date of Diana's death) in 1997. Whether 1997 is significant is unknown but add the numbers 1+9+9+7 together and you have 26, which is 2 x 13.

Also remember that goddess Diana's number is 13 and the car she was in, crashed into the 13th pillar in the tunnel.

This is not mere coincidence and shows the controllers are into numerology at least.

southampton8721 Jun 2016 18:19

21 Jun 2016 19:03:42
Yes that's it sorry ed I knew I see it here originally
But that has shown me more detail in the making

So may seem be a stupid question but i'm guessing Diana symbolised the goddess within their ritual
And to worship the goddess would be to do so on her number or numbers and to reverse would be a sacrifice?

{Ed033's Note - Yes, that appears to be the way they saw at least part of the numerology in their ritual sacrifice of Diana.

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hsf21 Jun 2016 19:47

21 Jun 2016 19:39:48
Ed033, if I may ask a few questions with ignorance (sorry :P)

What makes you believe this is not a mere coincidence?

I've read the stories that she was about to expose something big about the Royals, but how true that is, who knows?

One other thing, The "Goddess Diana" is a Roman Goddess right? What would that have to do with the so-called Zionist ideology?

{Ed033's Note - the numerology aspect is just one small part of the whole ritual. Read my article on the articles tab to see more.

The other thing is that the 'zionism' that is associated with the 'controllers' is not judaism and is not the zionism / luciferianism on wikipedia, it's their version of zionism/luciferianism.

Not aimed at you hsf but,

with lots of people, it doesn't matter how many coincidences or anomalies there are in an event, the event to them is always just mere coincidences. This is why most people are 'coincidence theorists'.

i can't 'wake' anyone up, only they can do that, but in order to 'wake up', people have to put the time in and do some learning, otherwise Diana's death was an accident, 9/11 was some hijackers who gained control of 4 planes and crashed them, 7/7 was 4 men who blew themselves up etc. exactly as the main stream says happened.

Below is a link to the rich planet videos page.

goo.gl/5gpDS3

Anyone who is 'asleep' and wants to 'wake up', there are 224 evidence based research videos you can watch on 'out of the box' topics, such as we discuss on this site.

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southampton8721 Jun 2016 22:24

21 Jun 2016 22:49:24
Cheers ed I'll have a dig through that.

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Rian21 Jun 2016 22:24

21 Jun 2016 22:59:55
Hsf, the Pont D'Alma tunnel is a very significant location and well worth some research. The tunnel was built on the site that was used for pagan ritual sacrifice by the Merovingins who worshipped the goddess Diana. They believed that anyone who was sacrificed there would go directly to heaven. Pont D'Alma literally means bridge of souls. The more I have read about this subject, the more fascinating it has become. Also have a look at where she is buried and the symbolism related to that.

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hsf23 Jun 2016 15:09

23 Jun 2016 15:12:05
People need substantial concrete evidence to believe something this big though Ed. In my eyes, there is no point in bringing it up publicly unless there is said proof.

All this circumstantial evidence and theory gets you know where as it's not definitive.

It's like me going around and saying I've been dating some well known super model in secret for 5 years. I haven't, but I could put forward a convincing argument to make people believe it.

There are too many liars, too many people who want their 5 minutes of fame for whatever reason, too many people who exaggerate the truth to get reactions and then there are the paid agents. Is there any wonder that the majority people don't believe things they're told? Truth or no truth.

Don't get me wrong, I see there are problems going on, I know something isn't right, I just haven't got the proof.

{Ed033's Note - It's pretty funny talking about 'substantial concrete evidence', when people will believe anything said on main stream without any shred of anything, they just announce stuff and most people just believe it.

And this is why if people would take one look at the anomalies, they might see something isn't quite right and then they might look a bit more.

There is another problem and that is one person's 'substantial concrete evidence' is different from another. For example, the half 'toasted' cars on 9/11 might be evidence to some people, but for others they need the BBC to tell them the 'toasted' cars is evidence of something.

But as usual all the evidence of false flags is ignored by main stream media, so you have to spend time learning yourself.

How can anyone say something doesn't have any evidence for it, unless they've looked at the evidence first.

If you go and look at the evidence and think it's rubbish then say why it's rubbish, don't say there has to be 'substantial concrete evidence' when you haven't looked at what evidence there is first.

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