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20 Oct 2015 08:27Discussion #12508Talk Sense

20 Oct 2015 09:26:53
Chinese city in clouds an optical illusion?

http://goo.gl/8yZlB8

hsf23 Oct 2015 17:52

23 Oct 2015 18:49:31
spectacular images, I heard that it's part of "project blue beam" or something, but it is more than likely what they explained it as, in my opinion anyway.

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17 Oct 2015 23:06Discussion #9759Talk Sense

18 Oct 2015 00:02:21
Some interesting stuff. Leaked White House memo shows that while Tony Blair was saying they were still looking for a peaceful solution, he had already signed up to war with Iraq one year before the invasion.

http://goo.gl/59v1GP

HoneyBadger18 Oct 2015 00:11

18 Oct 2015 00:50:20
Yes interesting but not surprising in the least, just what most of us expected.

Didn't Alistair Campbell reveal that Rupert Murdoch had been phoning Blair directly, encouraging him to back the usa in Iraq in exchange for positive coverage by news international?

{Ed033's Note - The interesting bit is whether this is immediately buried or it gains traction.

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KimPhilby18 Oct 2015 09:01

18 Oct 2015 09:46:32
We all expected it but now the evidence is out in public. What happens next will be interesting.

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HoneyBadger18 Oct 2015 10:14

18 Oct 2015 01:22:29
Agreed Ed033.

I wouldn't be surprised if this article will be used to gauge public opinion (by looking at the comments for instance) before it's decided whether to run with it via other outlets or not.

Watch this space.

{Ed033's Note - Let's just say for instance that it was allowed to run to the point that they had to have a trial, it would send a message to anyone in a powerful position that you might not be protected at the level you're at, so if you partake in anything unlawful, you're now personally liable for your actions and you could be put on trial.

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TTTS18 Oct 2015 10:49

18 Oct 2015 11:40:24
Hope jc hangs him out and sends him to the Hague.

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KimPhilby18 Oct 2015 11:43

18 Oct 2015 12:42:47
If you mean corbyn he needs to win an election in just over 4 and a half years time. Its by no means a certainty and a lot can happen.

By that time who knows what may have happened and what else will have come out. A weeks a long time in politics 4 years us an eternity.

Maybe if Corbyn raises it at pmqs and pushes for a response from Cameron. Maybe some of you should email it in as a question.

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17 Oct 2015 12:30Discussion #5147Talk Sense

17 Oct 2015 13:25:20
{Ed033's Note - Ken O'Keefe talks about The Greater Israel Project, where the zionist agenda is to remove people from the Middle East/North Africa (into Europe) to leave Israel space to create a 'Greater Israel'

KimPhilby17 Oct 2015 16:55

17 Oct 2015 17:32:27
The majority of these migrants are overwhelming young men. You see the streams of them and its 95% young men. The cameras though hunt out the women with kids.

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17 Oct 2015 10:51Discussion #11996Talk Sense

17 Oct 2015 11:45:31
What's everyones thoughts on the privy council and the influence they have on policy making?

negativeredwalter17 Oct 2015 12:33

17 Oct 2015 13:30:15
I know little about them but more than likely there just out for them and the rich.

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16 Oct 2015 21:13Discussion #9830Talk Sense

16 Oct 2015 21:54:11
I was at a hospital today visiting and I was watching a cleaner. now they were trying to clean, just cleaning with a rub of a cloth and a bit of spray. my child would have cleaned it better. the same hospital was full of mrsa recently. now my nan worked in a hospital cleaning a few years back and she told me before she finished up working they were instructed to stop using dettol and she thinks all these diseases are from not cleaning properly.

Now they have all contracted cleaners who don't seem to care, all these big cleaning contractors are they are trying to get all these spray cleaning products in to hospitals making millions for the big companies, Then I wonder about the pharmaceutical companies, my sister in law has ms and she got these new tablets don't know what they are called, but after getting a month supply free she finally stood up on her feet after 7 years and she started doing things she couldn't do for years.

well she was over the moon, anyway after the free month she was told if she wanted more she would have to pay 500 euros a month which she couldn't afford, She wrote to the minister for health here in Ireland but no reply, talk about drug dealing from our own government.

{Ed033's Note - When you clean with anti-bacterial substances, it kills all but a few bacteria. The bacteria that are left are super-bacteria so what happens is that only super-bacteria can grow, and so you get super-bacteria outbreaks like MRSA.

The elite have this agenda where they want everyone on some kind of drug that they are dependant on and paying for so you've got to try and look after yourself.

TTTS16 Oct 2015 21:53

16 Oct 2015 22:47:59
I can mind being in hospital as a child, ear operation. Wards were spotless and windows were wide open. Fresh air the greatest weapon against bacteria. Our resistance are being ground down and super bugs are getting stronger. Just like Gates wants it.

{Ed033's Note - yes, it's all being done on purpose to our detriment.

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TTTS17 Oct 2015 08:01

17 Oct 2015 08:58:28
The company that bought the rights for a drug that treats aids has put the price of the drug up 5000%, from 13.50 to 750. They are no better than the arms dealers, dealing in people's money. They must be bad that a democrate presidential candidate has refused donations from them.

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KimPhilby17 Oct 2015 09:12

17 Oct 2015 10:06:50
Disgusting. i'd say worse than arms dealers. This is peoples health they're profiteering off.

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TTTS17 Oct 2015 10:35

17 Oct 2015 11:33:53
I meant dealing in people's misery not money.

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KimPhilby17 Oct 2015 12:00

17 Oct 2015 13:00:03
Some people are only happy when others are miserable.

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16 Oct 2015 20:22Discussion #11995Talk Sense

16 Oct 2015 21:05:53
Putin's latest exploits whether you agree with them or not are being met with a whimper from the powerful NATO grouping, does anyone think that Putin is being backed by a greater power, even an ET power?

{Ed033's Note - for all we know, the one group of elite split into 2 because the group backing putin woke up to the fact that the original agenda of the elite is all going horribly wrong with the complete ruination of Earth and all natural life forms on Earth.

TTTS16 Oct 2015 20:52

16 Oct 2015 21:36:14
If that's the case it has to be the better of the 2 evils? The discussion earlier has highlighted 20-40 years to save the world. Maybe this is the beginning. I myself think that the fear of something greater than human is quelling a usually gung ho Zionists American influenced NATO.

{Ed033's Note - what's possible is that the zionist group is actually backed by a small non-human group who want to ruin the Earth and all natural life on it. and it's possible that another non-human group has backed an anti-zionist group?

Who knows, but remember the last group to take on and fight the zionist group, lost and we know that as WW2. Did the wrong group win WW2? Was the group that lost WW2 the better of the 2 evils?

If anyone reading this is brainwashed with the zionist's no. 1 weapon known as 'politically correctness', then you'll know it as you'll go crazy over my question.

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KimPhilby16 Oct 2015 21:19

16 Oct 2015 22:09:45
That's if you accept there were only 2 sides in ww2. There were 3.

{Ed033's Note - or 2 of your 3 were zionist.

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TTTS16 Oct 2015 21:50

16 Oct 2015 22:40:08
The greatest story never told was a thought provoking piece of journalism and certainly challenges modern day history teachings. I will never consider what I've been told as true as actual fact again and will look at what opposite views are before deciding for myself. In saying that years of brainwashing has left it very difficult to think outside the box. Another victim of the system.

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growbun2817 Oct 2015 00:10

16 Oct 2015 22:42:46
The blood that the British spilt in WW2 was all for nothing because what we fought for tooth and nail is now been given away. a complete waste of life and unfortunately the people who publicy stand and speak out are more often than not numb skulls with very poor literacy! which in turn cheapens the real truth!

political correctness is the greatest weapon that has hammered this country into the ground. you can't have any view on it without been branded a racist. The plan that was put in place to take this country was perfect because its gone bye bye. Ed you mentioned about the mass migration and the free moving of people through Europe plan (cant remember what it was called but you said that the politically correct would go nuts if it was printed) but I never heard it before and read up on it and its what I have always thought.

its very difficult to mention hitler and ww2 without people blowing up so i'll put it as an open question. Did hitler see what was coming? ed033 your thoughts please.

{Ed033's Note - i would imagine that the German leadership knew that the Jews had been thrown out of Europe over 100 times for ruining things and they had just experienced such as despite the Germans allowing loads of Jews to settle in Germany, they then start to ruin Germany and then to make things worse, it was certain Jews that convinced the American leadership to enter WWI which led to ruination of Germany under the treaty of versailles.

i speculate here that this evil zionist ruination agenda we see in history and today seems to go ahead mostly through certain jewish people. I'm not saying any or all Jewish people are evil, i'm saying we see this evil agenda being fomented through certain jewish people, hence why if you're a leader of a country, you might want to throw out all Jews in the hope that the evil ruination agenda can't get going in your country because there aren't any Jews for it to come though.

In 1934 the Soviet Government established Birobidzhan, as a homeland for Jews and a few years later, the German leadership wanted to relocate Jews to the island of Madagascar. Given the history, you can't blame them for trying to relocate Jews.

i think that hitler knew the history of jews rather than could see what was coming and so wanted them out of Germany/Europe to prevent more ruination.

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Hazard5417 Oct 2015 00:30

17 Oct 2015 00:50:29
Same as me TTTS, I look at things completely different now.

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15 Oct 2015 19:14Discussion #11994Talk Sense

15 Oct 2015 19:54:03
Scientists have invented an electronic sleeve that keep the heart beating indefinitely.

{Ed033's Note - is this the story?
goo.gl/FXtvtk

TTTS15 Oct 2015 20:10

15 Oct 2015 20:19:10
That's it, don't know how to post links.

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15 Oct 2015 13:55Discussion #9897Talk Sense

15 Oct 2015 14:54:46
Really good article on floatation tanks for anyone interested in ways to explore your consciousness.

goo.gl/rcjXWx

Leahy1215 Oct 2015 18:21

15 Oct 2015 19:17:58
Melbourne,have you ever tried lucid dreaming,I've read about it never tried it,has anyone on here tried it or does anyone know anything about it.

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Melbourne CFC15 Oct 2015 20:38

15 Oct 2015 21:12:38
Its not typically something you can try. Some are born with the ability to control what happens in dreams and some are not. I know that some substances were legal fora little while that helped achieve the state, but I've never looked into it that much.

Astral Projection interests me a lot, and is something you can actively train your mind to be able to do, and is something I'll be attenpting to achieve on my little sabbatical. It is what first opened my eyes to the fact that this thing we call consciousness has many different forms, and can be far more expansive than what we are told. You shouod research it.

My view is that your mind is far more powerful and complex then we are lead to believe, and is the most important tool you could ever master. Most don't try, and live their lives on a frequency that seems extremely narrow. Whether we are conditioned or programmed to stay on that frequency is up for debate. What isn't is that there are many frequencies in the universe, and our mind is capable of tuning into a wide range.

What most 'experts' in the field all agree on is that in order to reach these different states and frequencies you have to first become aware of them. Once you go down the rabbit hole you're unlikely to ever become reconditioned to the same narrow frequency the masses are currently on.

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Leahy1215 Oct 2015 21:37

15 Oct 2015 21:46:44
Never heard of it mate,let us know how your getting along with it.

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growbun2816 Oct 2015 08:41

16 Oct 2015 09:12:42
I don't know if that's what I occasionally experience but either side of sleep I.e drifting off and waking up I sometimes go into like a peaceful haze/trance and it feels like I have been there for hours and really it's just been seconds. It's very lovely. I also get that sleep paralysis which is weird your eyes are open and your body's asleep and you feel like there are things in the room with you! Also recently I have stopped smoking and when I wear the patches overnight I dream all night long really vivid dreams

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CTR16 Oct 2015 09:49

16 Oct 2015 00:38:44
That's really strange u say that Melbourne, I have always had the ability to somewhat control my dreams.
Sometimes I can wake up knowing I've dreamt then go back to it and alter it.

When I was younger I suffered really bad from night terrors and thought I'd somehow managed to do it from that.

I also have so much deja vu from my dreams, it's odd because I can't quite remember what I'm remembering if u get what I mean it's just certain things I know I had the same feelings about.

Keeping on the same tangent my favourite number is 23 (the day of the month I was born), it's a number that appears a lot in my day to day life at what seems to me a frequent amount, is it me just noticing the number because of that or do people think there's more to it?

Is all this normal? Or just an over imagination? I must admit I'd never really given these things much thought until about 3-4 years ago.

Ed33 any thoughts on that too?

{Ed033's Note - To me it all says there's way more going on than the 'control system' (mainstream media, mainstream schooling and mainstream 'science') has told us. So far the 'control system' wants us to believe that we, along with any other animal are just animated pieces of meat that grow a bit and then die and that's the end of it, just like plants / fungi etc.

Some of the theories are (any combination of the below could be valid):

1. Everything is not just energy but energy that contains packets of data

2. We are living in a field of data

3. Our DNA is a receiver / transmitter of data

4. Living entities can put data into context to become information via consciousness

5. All living entities can communicate data / information with each other to some degree

6. In altered states of consciousness (dreaming / on mushrooms, plants, drugs etc. ) humans are more open to receiving this data / information

7. There are other dimensions that humans can tap into in altered states of consciousness

8. Consciousness doesn't emanate from the brain but is located elsewhere

9. Only a part of us (the soul) is within our bodies the rest of us is part of the field or in another dimension

10. We are actually living in some type of programmed reality

Are We Living in a programmed reality?
Anthony Peake with Jim Elvidge

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14 Oct 2015 22:02Discussion #9829Talk Sense

14 Oct 2015 22:49:23
I was watching recorded live feed from nasa in 2014 when a strange object appeared and they cut the feed.
It might have been covered on here before,
But my thinking is why would they put live feed in the first place if they were trying to hide these objects from us.

{Ed033's Note - Most people in NASA believe it's all for real. i don't think you are but If you're talking about rovers, then there is a theory that the Rovers are located on remote uninhabited places, where a live feed should not show anything terrestrial.
Rich Planet TV program Part 1 of 8 Mars Rovers
Mars Rovers on Earth?

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14 Oct 2015 20:29Discussion #11993Talk Sense

14 Oct 2015 21:28:19
A large operation involving the FBI and other agencies have rescued 149 children, sexual exploited victims in a large sting operation over 4 days. The operation named "operation cross country IX involved raids in 135 US cities included casinos, hotels and truck shops.
To me the initial number seemed quite high but when you see it was slightly over 1 per city it seems a very poor effort.

It is great for the ones rescued. Giving that child abuse and sacrifice is apparently rife amongst the ruling elite, and it is controlled by bodies like the CIA, I would suggest this is only a token action.
On a side note Denver has been no 1 city for children being rescued from sexual exploitation. Is this because it has more predators or a more pro active protection policy?

frankyscouser16 Oct 2015 20:59

16 Oct 2015 21:42:00
it's an interesting theory about mental health patients being more tuned to dimensions than the majority of people. I have thought about that myself a few times, what if they can really see/hear evil demons? my mate is a band 5 or 6 mental health nurse, so he has worked in ashworth ( Ian Brady Moors murder) and some of the stories these patients come out with would make your skin crawl.

There was a strange story he once told me about a well spoken man from somewhere in Africa (cant remember where) who was admitted into my mate's unit. not your typical patient and to cut a long story short the patient was convinced he had a voodoo spell put on him from someone from a different nation.

When someone is admitted there is usually a paper trail, name address, history etc., with this guy there was next to nothing. my mate the next day speaks to the guy to build up a trust about he is here to help him. the guy tells my mate he is a diplomat aid or something like that and was terrified that he was going to die because of this curse. my mate tells him he will be looked after and not to worry. he clocks in work the next day, the patient is gone, checked out, no paper trail again. he asked his boss what happened, his boss said he got orders to move him somewhere else, never heard or seen him again.

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14 Oct 2015 19:49Discussion #9316Talk Sense

14 Oct 2015 20:45:50
a powerful 8 minute video on the real truth of SYRIA.

War Of Deception - Ken O'keefe on PressTv

TTTS14 Oct 2015 20:11

14 Oct 2015 21:08:31
Ive watched that Frank, the Washington stogie doesn't know what way to turn. Wonderful interview.

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14 Oct 2015 10:39Discussion #11992Talk Sense

13 Oct 2015 22:37:52
Hi Ed, you mentioned a grouping /person/being higher up the food chain than the Rothschilds / Rockefeller clans. Do you mind shedding some light on this?

{Ed033's Note - it goes back to the idea that the Rothschilds / Rockefellers care about themselves and a concept that people can't seem to get into their heads, which is why are the Elite killing / ruining everything on Earth now, because they would only be killing / ruining themselves.

The Royalty / Rothschilds / Rockefellers aren't at the top. They are like middle management types who can make 'side' deals of their own. i don't know who is at the top but it isn't those that care about themselves. i wrote earlier on this subject if you want to read it.

why do the elite ruin the earth

TTTS14 Oct 2015 20:21

14 Oct 2015 21:06:50
Quite a read, only today we have a maor underwater earthquake causing major causalities in Indian Ocean. The control of natural disasters maybe?

{Ed033's Note - Who knows? Did you watch the Dane Wigington video presentation on the page as that gives more info?

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TTTS14 Oct 2015 20:32

14 Oct 2015 21:30:08
I'm about to plug in the earphones and watch, will comment later.

{Ed033's Note - ok great, thanks.

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TTTS14 Oct 2015 21:38

14 Oct 2015 22:17:51
Really seems that we've run out of time. To reverse the damage would take a movement from mainstream governing on a global scale. Where would such leadership come from taking into account the fact that the leaders that aren't owned receive the "he's a crackpot" from the MSM.

{Ed033's Note - While we the people are comfortable, nothing is going to happen at all. i think more and more people will have no job and therefore will be completely dependant on government handouts that will be borrowed from we the people from infinity into the future. When governments can no longer borrow infinite amounts money from infinity into the future to give to people to keep them comfortable, then we'll see a population wake up but it will be too late then.

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TTTS15 Oct 2015 20:10

15 Oct 2015 20:11:36
Philippines are expecting up to 1m of rain over 4 days and 160 mph winds. Never heard of a rainfall like that before. About 10mm per hr. Thousands in danger I'd imagine.

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