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Discussion #11990Talk Sense

09 Oct 2015 19:22:00
It would have been John Lennon 75th birthday today folks.
Another life cut short for caring too much.
Chapman, another under the influence of mkultra programme?

 

frankyscouser
09 Oct 2015 23:05:20
am a massive fan of the beatles naturally and have thought a lot about this subject and have come to the conclusion that I don't think chapman was ordered to kill lennon.

lennon was out the spotlight for a few years and was making a new album,it would have made more sense to kill him when the anti vietnam war was in the headlines, so mate I think chapman was just one of the oddballs that murdered a genius .
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TTTS
10 Oct 2015 02:49:51
Chapman was given the bullets by a policeman
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frankyscouser
10 Oct 2015 11:06:11
mate could you give me a theory why lennon would be murdered?
the kennedy brothers, MLK, pope etc had all valid reasons to be targets and I do not see lennon to be any type of threat in 1980.

if this was the early 70s then I would be taking this more seriously.
as for the bullets he said he got from an old school friend who was a cop, then you have to answer these questions.

if it was a mk ultra type of hit, it would have been clean. no link to any police authority.

if you believe him when he said where he got the bullets from, then not believe him when he said he acted alone?

if he was a mk ultra assassin, he would have been taken out a long long time ago.

i just don't see it mate.
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growbun28
10 Oct 2015 13:51:29
You would think that anyone who was given lsd would see John Lennon as the master of the universe. I don't know how successful the Mk were with actual mind control it was actually just a decimation of the senses and pushing a humans psyche to the limits. I do understand that pcp made fearsome troops with seemingly un depleting stamina but that was more out of control than under control. I think to be fair he was just nuts
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RoscoJEF
11 Oct 2015 01:35:15
I think there's more to it. Lennon was more influential to people than any president or statesman. Keep in mind he was under heavy surveillance for yesrs, phones tapped etc. Chapman allegedly forgot his bullets and therefor had to go back to hiwia to get them as law states back then that you could own a gun but could only buy ammunition from the state u live in or have the weapon licensed in. In my opinion there's something not right about it
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Discussion #9504Talk Sense

09 Oct 2015 14:00:33
Has anyone else seen this?


http://goo.gl/2hBqfV


I don't follow msm but a friend sent me this link to a daily fail article stating that corbyn believes 9/11 was manipulated. Like I said I don't follow msm but as far as I'm aware this story hasn't been covered by the other mainstream sources? Am I being paranoid or is this not a major news story which the media should have been all over?

What i'm thinking is that they got the story out there in one source only in order to gauge public reaction, realised that the comments weren't as negative as hoped so decided not to take wider as it would not have the desired effect.

Any thoughts? And if you've seen the story elsewhere please correct me.

 

CTR
09 Oct 2015 15:42:29
I'm not suprised it ain't been covered gav.

By the way I watched that documentary u suggested on 9/11 after 5 hours I'm staggered at how anyone can not see it was an inside job.

Here's a question, does anyone think Osama bin Laden is actually dead?
Was he a patzi or was the ex CIA worker(I believe) in on the whole thing?
{Ed033's Note - You'd think that Osama Bin Laden is dead now because they've said he's dead. The question is when did he die. He had some kidney disease because he was in a Dubai hospital in 2001 being treated. Some theories say he died in 2001 but he could have died or been killed at any time between 2001 and 2011. It's possible he died was killed earlier than 2011 and a 'double' took over until 2011.

i happen to think that Osama Bin Laden had no previous knowledge that 9/11 was going to take place and had no part in it.

i think the reason why they blamed bin laden is because at that time 2001, the Taliban had given the Argentines a contract to build a pipeline across part of Afghanistan to the caspian sea oil instead of the USA and the USA wanted that contract. The caspian sea oil was the major factor in blaming Afghanistan. The other reason blaming Afghanistan was that the Taliban had virtually stopped the Poppy production, so a large part of the heroin trade had been stopped. Something The Americans had to start up again.

However, the Americans then found out that the easy to get at best 'sweet' crude oil had already been taken out of Caspian Sea by the Russians so then the Americans n immediately blamed Saddam Hussein for involvement in 9/11 and then went after Iraq's oil instead.

The American Military with help from other European Military got the Poppy growing for Heroin in Afghanistan back up and running at an all time high.
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CTR
09 Oct 2015 16:44:58
Bin Laden did work for the CIA didn't he though ed? I read it somewhere not sure if true.

Wow all the stuff you said makes you realize what a sad sad world we live in.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, allegedly during the Russian v Afghan war, Osama Bin Laden was recruited by the CIA (and then was also given the name, Tim Osman). Bin laden's job was to be one of the recruitment managers and use his contacts (as his father is a super rich Arab Oil Sheikhs) to recruit as many Muslims as possible from any country surrounding Afghanistan to fight in this war to give the Russians a no win scenario, where they would have to give up otherwise bankrupt themselves, trying to stop endless muslims entering the war against the Russians.
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HoneyBadger
09 Oct 2015 17:11:53
Its not like it was totally covered up (corbyn's view) because the daily mail covered it, its the fact nobody else went near it that makes me suspicious.

I believe bin Laden was dead long before his official death but they needed us to think he was still alive as justification for some of the action in the middle east. I love that we were told his body was immediately thrown into the sea 'out of respect for his faith' - you couldn't write it and it would be funny if it wasn't so bad.

Whether or not he worked directly for the CIA I think they clearly used him as a pawn in the whole thing, having firstly aided him and his friends for years.

The media is used to turn guys like Bin Laden, Putin, Gaddafi and Saddam into James bond style evil villains who want nothing more than to cause harm to humanity as a whole. Then the sheep in the west will happily give their blessing to whatever type of military action they are sold as the 'solution' to these bad guys.
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KimPhilby
09 Oct 2015 17:36:08
Americans always talk about god. They don't mean a religious god they mean a financial one.

Gold
Oil
Diamonds

Created by

Guns
Oppression
Drugs
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KimPhilby
09 Oct 2015 17:41:03
The cia supplied the mujihadeen with supplies and trainers. To protect they're drugs.

The bin laden family is big in construction. The crane that collapsed onto the grand mosque in mecca a few weeks ago was one of there's.
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Discussion #5144Talk Sense

09 Oct 2015 13:32:21
Anthony Peake on out of body experiences, zero point energy, the akashic field, holograms

 

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Discussion #2362Talk Sense

09 Oct 2015 10:42:27
Hey Frankie,

Just listened to your first podcast and thought I'd say good job on that mate, found it very easy listening and interesting too.

Again well done mate. Love the ufo encounter story!

 

frankyscouser
09 Oct 2015 16:18:55
cheers bro.
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Discussion #11989Talk Sense

09 Oct 2015 00:46:51
Was reading small extracts from Cathy o Briens pitch about the mkultra programme.
Very disturbing to see the extents the 1% will go too to remain in control.
Why are such allegations not challenged by those mentioned and why is Cathy O Brien still about. They must not see her as a threat.

 

{Ed033's Note - If she did get onto the mainstream media and people took her seriously, then you'd expect her to be taken out somehow.
football-crown Ed007
10 Oct 2015 01:47:10
I battled through about half of Trance Formation of America, and it was a battle, but I had to stop because by that time I was just sitting laughing at it and reading snippets of it out to my wife to lampoon it. It was like a bad taste comedy trying to be more shocking than the previous scene and everything getting more sinister and even more outrageous as it goes on. It's like a who's who of pop culture.
To be honest I would put it in the category of something people can use to ridicule people like us that like to look at everything from a different angle.
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Discussion #2408Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 22:29:34
Hey guys just read a bbc article about Japan. It was about sexualised children pictures in manga comics. In Japan its NOT illegal to possess such books. what is the world coming to? I think the leaders of this word are a bunch of sick individuals. We have it here also with the scum pedophilic MPs. Do you guys think its a trend among the sick elite all over the world?

 

{Ed033's Note - If the elite can get us to think like them, then this world can be a truly sick place. The elite would love that and it's all part of slow brainwashing of us over a long period of time, through schooling and main stream media.

When parents can't recognise what sick stuff is being allowed into their childre's minds, this is going to happen and unfortunately parents now can't recognise what is sick and what is not, so we're in trouble. People can't recognise that political correctness is also a weapon being used to bring in sick ideas.
HoneyBadger
08 Oct 2015 22:51:20
Pop music videos in the western world are saturated with sexual imagery also. Might be fun for us grown ups at times but when you consider that the videos are mostly watched by kids and young teenagers its pretty sick really, what does it teach our kids?
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growbun28
08 Oct 2015 22:58:30
I'm a big fan of manga and most people get the wrong end of the stick, like my wife who says when I watch anime "oh you perv why has that kid got tits" when the fact is that it's not a kid but a cartoon and most western people associate cartoons with kids.

A lot of manga and anime is very graphic and thought provoking! If you can get past the cartoon there are some very interesting ideas posed by the art form
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CTR
08 Oct 2015 23:04:44
Gav, I'd be just as worried what it's teaching adults too.

Singers such as Ariana Grande still look like young kids yet are plastered all over the tv dressed into next to nothing singing about all sorts, and with all this paedophile stuff in the news in the last few years is it getting us to think it's not so bad to look at stuff like that?

Gone are the days when it was cool to be that wholesome girl or boy that was good.
Remember Britney Spears had that image.
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growbun28
08 Oct 2015 23:13:57
Totally right badger. In the west we sexualise real people and specifically target young children and it's not for anything deviant but just to make money that is a red rag to a bull to all the paedos that live over here.

I feel it goes one further as well, they like to give kids unrealistic aspersions and make them feel insecure and probably contribute indirectly to a lot of child suicides. In Japan it's in your face over here it's sly and premeditated.
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HoneyBadger
08 Oct 2015 23:31:18
Couldn't agree more ctr and browgun. You can see the agenda's at play. Also, the encouraging of promiscuity can lead to the break up of family units and people can be more easily controlled when they're not part of a cohesive unit.

Its crazy to think that back in the day we looked up to great philosophers, adventurours, inventors etc. Now kids look up to the likes of Kim kardashian who's famous for a sex tape and having a monstrous behind!
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Discussion #9464Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 21:08:59
The new style lotto kicks off this week with more numbers to chose from and a free lucky dip for those getting just 2 numbers, my prediction is we will get a few rollovers building up a big jackpot that will surprise surprise be won by a person with the new free lucky dip ticket :-)
Every time they change something its an instant success, strange that :-)

 

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Discussion #12536Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 00:16:06
Seeing as I missed the opportunity to enter the discussion on firearms now on page 2, I thought I'd share my opinion on the matter in a new post.
The consensus arrived at was that people should be limited in the type of firearms they have access to, which I disagree with.

Due to various reasons, one of which was idolizing Robin Hood as an embodiment of social justice, I have come to perceive criminals and crime differently to the currently prevailing perception. I see crime as the cause of physical damage to another being or the act of limiting another being, thereby inhibiting them from acting as they will.

In analyzing violent crimes I've concluded that the majority of these incidents occur due to certain peoples inability to access the resources they require or have been conditioned to think they require.
In the rest of the cases and not unrelated to those just described, violence is an expression of peoples uncontrolled fears. Fears which have paralyzed their cognitive functions or have taken the form of insecurities and overcome the reins of their underdeveloped logic.
Incidents where one sets out to harm another simply out of a desire to do so are rare, even though Hollywood conditions us to think otherwise.
The solution to all but the last category is care and love on a social level. But before I digress back to the point at hand.

Violent crimes are rarely committed with registered firearms for logical reasons. These firearms are obtained illegally through unofficial channels. Seeing as the black market is not a modern invention, that is not only unlikely to stop but quite the contrary.
As more regulations are put in place to supposedly ensure public safety more and more people are going to turn to said unofficial channels for their supply. Which only exposes people to higher risks due to the nature of aforementioned channels and the lower quality available. Not unparallel to substance regulation attempts.

Furthermore by prohibiting people from having equal access to equipment only puts them at a disadvantage. It encourages those with access to them by indirectly assuring them and directly ensuring that they will have superiority in armed confrontation.
I presume this to be the reason why avoidable police and military shootings occur. These people are subconsciously aware that the only exchange in which they will prevail is that of armed confrontation, as the vast majority of them are poorly educated and emotionally immature, and act accordingly.

However, those are not the reasons we should have equal access to equipment and resources. The true reason reveals itself with a look to the foreseeable future.
The search for both infinite and perpetual energy sources is not new, though it has recently yielded encouraging results. If such sources were to become widely available it would mean that we would all find ourselves in a position to manifest both our purest dreams and our deepest nightmares. For it to be so we must first be ready to choose one over the other. A decision which due to the magnitude of its effects cannot be reached through imposed limitations but only through conscious choice.

If we are to evolve we must understand that what we attribute to others and in turn forms the foundations of our fears is only that which we refuse to recognize in us.
The way forward for our species entails ever greater abilities and possibilities. As such it is up to us to shape our future and that will always be in our image. To do so we must first realize what that image is, then move to refine it, from that achieved position compose a new one that we resonate with and then proceed to harmonize with it.

 

KimPhilby
08 Oct 2015 11:55:30
So its not the muggers or rapists fault its societies? Is that the basic point?
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Melbourne CFC
08 Oct 2015 12:29:07
Do you think someone is born a mugger or rapist, Kim? Do you look at a newborn child and see evil and hatred, or innocence and love?

An extremely narrow minded and not thought out response mate.

Ofcourse everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions, which we as a society dictate they will, through the use of the 'justice' system and jail. Yet there is no doubt that people that grow up and are exposed to violent or criminal upbringings are far more likely to live those same lives, with the same violent tendencies.

So do we take the narrow minded short sighted approach and punish people in retrospect, forever maintaining the cycle, or, do we look at what is showing itself to be the root cause of the problems, and offer up solutions which may impact outcomes.

Society is geared towards judgement and subjectiveness. Its all want, want, want and now, now, now. If people weren't made to feel less then because they didn't have something someone else did, or because we are told money equates to success, people wouldn't be willing to do violent or criminal things in order to obtain it, when their environment gives them little hope of being able to do so through productive and legal avenues.

You can continue to live life pointing the finger at people saying they are bad because they do x,y or z, lock them in a box to think about what they did, or you can ask yourself why are they acting that way and try and work out what would eleviate the obvious stress factors that cause a once innocent and loving baby to become so disconnected.
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growbun28
08 Oct 2015 17:02:52
Very interesting post and replies there.

I'm a firm believer that we are born a blank canvas and that every sight, sound , taste experience etc shapes us and that as life goes on each individual becomes as unique as their fingerprints also your opinions on this have come through whatever conditioning you have received and mine also if you like.

What we have to be very careful about is not think that we have ever risen above and become free thinkers because that doesn't exist no one is free!

How most killers, rapist and what we have been led to believe as bad people in our society become what they are for reasons you state above (not in all cases but the vast majority) and in your opinion the best way would be to stop these triggers or conditioning that causes them. Would that lead to a perfect world or one that is even more heavily controlled than the world we currently live in because in some ways you could be suggesting a systematic brainwashing of all to be the perfect human.

In a horrible way the mix of society now is more natural and even if we all lived in the wild we would still have to defend ourselves against beasts or people that want to steal your slice.

Or maybe that's what I believe because I watched Appleseed 😃

Good posts
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zari
08 Oct 2015 20:40:39
The process of conditioning-deconditioning-reconditioning is indeed perpetual. We apply it to ourselves, hopefully as much as the establishment does to us, whenever we consciously choose to alter a behavioral or analytical pattern we have adopted. The fact that doing so is a possibility proves that everyone is free or at least as free as they choose to be.

I fail to see how the conscious adoption of commonly beneficial characteristics equates to brainwashing. Developing one's self so as to be beneficial to the all is actually pro-evolutionary.
Our ability and willingness to coexist in organized societies is the exact behavior that enabled us to survive and later prosper in the adverse conditions we encountered in our infancy as a species. It has also enabled us to build on the foundations laid by past generations. Without their contributions we would have achieved nothing and would most likely still reside in caves, if we had ever done so.

Collective structure is required as much as individual freedom for our prosperity. What we currently lack is the optimal structure which benefits everybody or at least the vast majority. The current establishment is destined to fail for it disregards cyclical nature and by that I am referring to the cycle of creation-destruction.
The way to circumvent the order-chaos paradigm is to design and employ systems that maintain the ability to evolve. Democracy, or participatory-democracy as it is now known, is one such system. For its successful application by society each individual of said society must work towards that which is of common benefit.

In regards to modern society I do not identify a mix but rather a conversion to uniformity, which is unnatural. The near global replacement of educational institutes with morphing factories, the subjugation of local cultures to Hollywood productions and the distaste expressed towards the observance of wise and ancient customs are seriously limiting diversity. Another evolution promoting mechanism which few understand the significance of. I described it to the best of my abilities recently, in reasonable detail, on this page and that post should be accessible through the use of the search function.

As for living in nature our species was not designed to do so. We lack the build to outrun or prevail in unarmed combat, the skin to protect ourselves from the elements etc. On the contrary the tested method we apply is to control our immediate environment and deter beasts (those whom we cannot reason with) from entering our habitats in search for resources.

We are however equipped with opposable thumbs, vast hearts and largely unexplored minds. How we choose to employ them is totally up to us.
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KimPhilby
08 Oct 2015 21:07:49
I just asked a simple question. Sometimes I struggle with zari's posts. Remember this isn't my first language. What some of you are talking about is social conditioning. Its been attempted before.

Whilst I agree surroundings and experience play a part in conditioning is the right message being sent out. Nothing is wrong with aspiration. Again its been tried in having most of society on a level field.

Yes some crimes are driven by envy of what others have. But violent or sexual crimes are different. Its about power and control.
{Ed033's Note - i guess anyone will struggle with zari's posts if English is not their first language.
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Discussion #9463Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 09:44:55
Just a quick question when you see clips on YouTube of UFOs supposedly happened over Britain and they show our news reporting on these stories why don't I recognise any of the TV presenters as news readers we normally see, sometimes it will have BBC news written underneath or similar but I'm yet to see a presenter/reporter I know.
The foreign channels from the where the story is supposed to be unloaded from looks very real as do the UK bits too but Its not people in familiar with seeing on our news?

 

KimPhilby
08 Oct 2015 11:57:09
Regional presenters? If you lived in the east midland region you wouldn't be familiar with Scottish newsreaders.
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gunner62
08 Oct 2015 19:08:27
True but some of the stuff I've seen and found extremely interesting I can't help but think would have made national news not just local, its difficult to understand why it would be broadcast world wide but only regionally in the UK.
Obviously surprising the story doesn't cover it because its hardly a secret
{Ed033's Note - The way the mainstream news works in UK is that they are told which stories have been approved by MI4 for national news so if it's not on the national news list it doesn't get on there.
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gunner62
08 Oct 2015 20:00:48
As someone who feels the chances of their not being life on other planets pretty remote and it extremely possible that at least a few of them would be more advanced than us so I'm very interested in this and a few other subjects alone similar lines so am in no way trying to deliberately debunk the footage or its integrity but surely if a story was suppressed nationally it would make sense to stop it going regional and there for world wide.
{Ed033's Note - it makes perfect sense that they cannot allow just any story to go national, they couldn't allow that. So national stories go on a list and if the story is not on the list it can't go national on mainstream media.

That doesn't mean to say that they wouldn't allow a UFO story to go national because there appears to be an agenda to slowly desensitise everyone to think there is a possibility of ETs.
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gunner62
08 Oct 2015 20:27:51
Me and a mate were talking about the possibility of alien's coming to earth and he said "I hope not ' I asked why and he said, "because if they do there's only two things they want us for, food or slaves"
I thought well possibly he could be right but I'm a little more optimistic about things if and when it ever happens.
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Discussion #2407Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 06:28:20
Hey guys, I just watched a documentary series called holographic disclosure. Have any of you seen it? And what's your opinion on it? I don't know how accurate it is but it sounds really convincing.

 

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Discussion #9828Talk Sense

08 Oct 2015 01:03:41

Hello just wandering if anyone on here knows anything about hydrofluorosilicic acid .a toxic waste by product, it's some kind of fluoride that's been added to our water over 60 years, it is supposedly causes cancer.

How can governments get away with these type of things.

HERBIE
08 Oct 2015 09:32:50

Its because our governments never gets questioned by the people, we are told what to think, drink, eat, say etc.

Flouride. just another excuse to keep us all dumbed down.
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CTR
08 Oct 2015 09:47:19
It's used in most toothpaste too I think.
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Leahy12
08 Oct 2015 10:57:29
My brother done research after someone close to us died from cancer.

Dr. dean burk fluoride causes cancer [and thus death].
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frankyscouser
08 Oct 2015 16:51:43
governments have always been bribed by corporations
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Discussion #2376Talk Sense

07 Oct 2015 23:33:02
Evening all,
First time poster like CTR and I thought I would follow his footsteps and tell you a little story. It's not a conspiracy at any stretch of the imagination, but it might open your minds as to whether ghosts are amongst us. I met my wife (Tracy) at the start of 1987, and after doing the usual Boyfriend / Girlfriend courtship, we decided to get engaged.

In order to save up for forthcoming engagement party, I moved in with Tracy and her parents. The day I moved in, 15th October 1987, had no significance at the time, but for those of you who are old enough to remember, was the day that lead to the night of The great storm of 1987.

Watching the news that night, the weather forecasters had warned that storms would batter England overnight. We all retired to bed. However, I was woken up in the middle of the night to what turned out to be the crashing and bashing of dustbins, trees, car alarms and general debris outside in the street.

I pulled back the curtain to witness the full destruction of the storm. However, as I glanced in a more downward direction, something caught my eyes that froze me to the spot. A little old lady, silver of hair and pale of face, almost wafer thin in appearance, was staring up at me.

She stood in a nightie and was totally unaffected, if not oblivious, to the surrounding storm that engulfed all around her. We made eye contact for at least 10 seconds, and with no more than an acknowledging smile, she turned around and walked away.

I rubbed my eyes in disbelief for no more than 2 seconds, reopened them, and she was gone. I calmly returned to bed and fell asleep. Morning came, and I walked into kitchen, to be greeted by Tracy and her Mum. After discussing, even surveying the previous nights storm, I mentioned the little old lady I saw looking at me.

Amongst the funny looks and lighthearted ridicule, my 'Mother-in-Law' asked me what she looked like. I described her appearance and finished off explaining about the white crucifix on a chain that adorned the little old lady's neck.

At this point, my Mother-in-law looked at me, ashen in colour, slowly walked out of the kitchen. She returned minutes later and showed me a picture. The picture was of her mum, slight of build, silver hair and wearing a white crucifix cross on a chain, who sadly passed away 2 weeks before I met Tracy.

I obviously never met her or even seen a picture of this woman (Tracy's Grandmother). It's hard to explain, or even understand what happened that night, it was after all the first time I had ever slept round there.

We believe, she just wanted to meet me, from the grave, to give me her approval, I was, after all, soon to get engaged / married to her Granddaughter.

Do I believe in ghosts?
As from 15/16th October 1987, yes.

{Ed033's Note - Thanks dagenham gunner for the interesting story.
dagenham gunner
08 Oct 2015 00:15:38
Pleasure Ed,

The last part should have read October and not September.
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frankyscouser
08 Oct 2015 00:25:45
good post feller and yes I believe as well.
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CTR
08 Oct 2015 07:03:40
Cool story mate.

When I lived in Germany we had strange things happen like the kettle boiling on its own, even after replacing it because we thought it was faulty.

Keys would go missing and end up in strange places.

My bros toys would move here and there, my mum got in someone and they said there was a little German boy in the flat that had fallen to his death.

One day I swear I saw what looked liked a child on the balcony.

I'm still 50/50 on the subject though I'll admit.
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dagenham gunner
08 Oct 2015 07:40:06
Thank you Franky.
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gunner62
08 Oct 2015 10:23:05
Ok Dags if your in I'm in :-) this also is a 100% true story.
In 2001 I was going through a divorce and living in a bedsit which had 3 rooms on the second and third floor of an old Victorian house, the room opposite mine was not used but retained by the landladies brother who kept it as a bolt hole in case him and his girlfriend didn't work out and the room above mine at the top of the house was occupied by my mate who a few months after me splitting up with my ex wife found himself in the same situation.

I'd been living there about 7 months and my mate about 4 months, we were both waiting for solicitors to do their thing before being able to get on with our lives.

One night during the working week I woke up around 4am startled because I could feel someone laying next to me in the bed I hadn't been out the night before so I knew I hadn't pulled a girl and forgotten or anything, I put the light on in the room which apart from me obviously there was no one there, I just assumed I'd had a flash back or something to being married which I thought was strange after so many months apart, I also remembered the pipework being very loud that night something I'd never noticed before, fully awake I could hear my mate in the room above me moving around and thought because it was so early in the morning he must have had an early start at work that day so went back to sleep as soon as I could before my alarm went off.

The next evening when I got back to the bed sit after work I walked into the kitchen and my mate was sitting there I said hi how you doing etc as you do and straight away he said he was moving that night because he was too frightened to stay in the house that night, I asked him why and he said he was woken up at around 4am the night before by feeling someone laying next to him in the bed.

My jaw dropped as he explained what happened obviously because it was exactly the same as had happened to me and if I'd have told him what happened to me first I don't think I would have believed him 100% to this day but the fact I hadn't told a single person about what had happened to me that day the only way he could have known was if he was telling the truth.

Anyway I was pretty nervous that night I that big old house on my own but absolutely nothing happened that night or any of the others over the remaining time I lived there.
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