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Discussion #9312Talk Sense

29 Sep 2015 09:55:04
different type of post here ,its about the kid with half a face that is on tv at the moment .

the remarks about the kid from katie hopkins are as ever making the headlines ,now I think hopkins has a dark soul and the world would be a better place without her.

but I can see a pattern playing out in the media ,the same media who give her tv shows and news column space.

like most reasons its done for a reason ,its done to outrage normal folk and want to gag her and people like her .

great you think?like it or not social media sites are a massive tool in today's generation ,its pretty much uncensored .
right now .

For every katie hopkins there are a 100 spreading real truth about taboo subjects .
in my opinion free speech should remain ,no matter how evil that women is.
but I am getting the vibe she is allowed to say the stuff she says,

so a few years down the line anything said about a blair/bush/putin could mean your views will be censored and we lose the real meaning of free speech.

 

Hazard54
29 Sep 2015 12:17:39
Freedom of speech doesn't exist. But I agree, it will be totally wiped out one day
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HoneyBadger
29 Sep 2015 17:47:12
Totally agree. We constantly hear talk of the dangers of social media surrounding harassment etc. you can clearly see which way this is going - not only will they bring in laws to control what we say but also the 90% who are worse than sheep will lap it up and say it's a good thing because they've been manipulated to think so!
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HoneyBadger
29 Sep 2015 17:51:01
I remember them discussing the additional spying laws which were being drafted on Question Time last year - there were people coming out with comments like "well they obviously will only use the powers when there is a real threat" or "I'm happy for them to see my records as I have nothing to hide".
It's incredible the level of ignorance among those who count themselves as educated (because they read the likes of bbc news and the daily mail!)
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Discussion #9470Talk Sense

28 Sep 2015 20:48:26
Regarding Frankyscouser's podcast and how he became interested in conspiracies, I thought a good question would be to ask everyone else how/what got them into conspiracies!

For me, it was this sight, found it off the chelsea site and thought you lot were a bunch of nutjobs! Then i researched 9/11 quite a bit and will now never believe for sure what's said in the mainstream media. I see things very differently now.

 

{Ed033's Note - Frankyscouser mentioned there was a video that blew his mind. If you haven't seen it and want to, It's now in 27 parts (roughly 15 minutes each part)

The Greatest Story Never Told
HoneyBadger
28 Sep 2015 21:14:32
Exactly the same as you mate;
Found the site from the footy site
Have always had a cynical mind especially about 9/11 but I thought the poster's here were crazy initially
Then I did some research and now I think everyone else is crazy!

That Hitler documentary is excellent, opened my mind a lot.
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RoscoJEF
28 Sep 2015 22:32:16
I was about 11 when Oliver stones JFK came out and I've been gripped since ( I'm 35 now) and then the x files came out and I've been hooked on conspiracies since then.
The greatest story never told was a real eye opener would recommend to anyone.

Dylan Avery and Michael Moores documentarys on 911 opened my eyes on it, bit dated now seeing as there's been a lot out since then but in 2003-4 that was all we had to go on.
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mumbaianc
29 Sep 2015 01:14:20
Michael moores fahreheit 9/11 documentary started it. Funny as I had no clue of what documentaries were at the time. Still find it strange it was released in india around october 2004.
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Hazard54
29 Sep 2015 06:52:23
Ed18 started watching and I'm at ep 4!

It's crazy from a different perspective, I learnt one side of the story just this year in history class, always 2 sides and were only ever told 1 throhgh media
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Kaizer
29 Sep 2015 07:39:08
im a muslim and I watched a series on youtube, not sure whether its still there or not, it was called the awakening. relating what was written in the quran to the world today. it gave me different views of the world.

if I remember correctly the video also talkd about illuminati, entertainment industry etc. it opened my eyes and I started watching and looking for other conspiracies etc.
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Discussion #11981Talk Sense

28 Sep 2015 20:31:18
What are your thoughts on Putin folks, he certainly seems to be eyeballing NATO, right in your face eyeballing.
Certainly not backing down to the Zionists who are hard at work destabilising the middle east, apart from UAEs and Israel that is.

 

{Ed033's Note - Some group is backing Putin.
KimPhilby
28 Sep 2015 20:56:41
Putins trying to protect one of his biggest clients who happens to be one of the largest dictators in the region. A mass murderer. I agree we all need to work together to stabilise the region. But Assad isn't part of the solution.
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TTTS
28 Sep 2015 21:32:25
Just like the west and their Saudi, Israeli interests.
It is nothing to do with human rights Kim, more to do with the fact Syria was debt free, self sufficient and free of the Rothschild yoke. As was Libya before it was unceremoniously invaded by the dark side.
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frankyscouser
28 Sep 2015 22:16:56
a devils advocate question kim.
do the west take out Assad like they took out Saddam Hussein and leave Syria in chaos like Iraq?
{Ed033's Note - And that is the most likely outcome for syria and probably why the people of Syria would rather back Assad than let the zionist cabal ruin them.
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TTTS
28 Sep 2015 23:10:27
You have mentioned two groups in a power struggle Ed, do you suspect both are ET. What of the other ET groups, I've read somewhere, possibly here, there were 5 types on the planet earth.
{Ed033's Note - i don't know anything about any ET groups. i have to assume that at the very highest level, we're dealing with non-humans, but what type of entity they are, inner earth, ET, other dimensional, i don't know.
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KimPhilby
28 Sep 2015 23:10:58
[Franky], Not at all. I do agree with Vladimir on this one. We need an international coalition to end the bloodshed. But that means both sides not just Isis. Defeat them remove Assad and put the UN in charge to rebuild the country until they decide themselves what they want to do. Self determination was one of the founding principles after all. After all Syria is already in chaos.

Yes I know America protects the Saudis. And i'd love to see the house of saud toppled but not if the replacement is an even worse nightmare like aq or Isis.
{Ed033's Note - You're assuming the U.N. is some type of benevolent dictatorship.
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Discussion #9311Talk Sense

28 Sep 2015 17:03:59
So water is found on mars and where there is water, there are usually lifeforms. The real story for me was nasa have found out that mars has many different terrains on the planet. In theory they are drip feeding the public that mars is not the barren place they have portrayed.

http://goo.gl/SWlt1H

 

{Ed033's Note - Every year since 2011 Nasa has said they might have found water or evidence of water on planet mars.
RoscoJEF
28 Sep 2015 22:25:20
This announcement on the week when Matt Damon's new movie The Martian comes out. Perfectly timed.
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zari
29 Sep 2015 10:04:21
It's about time NASA and Hollywood cooperated more openly, seeing as they are both in the business of producing sensational propaganda. Outsider trading info speculates that a merger is on the cards.

Anyone want to go halfzis on a space based telescope? I think that's our only chance of actually finding out what is going on out there.
Joking aside, I'm surprised that of all these hacking groups we keep hearing about none ever thought of tapping in the feed of one of these telescopes. It can't be any harder than gaining access into the databases they are breaking into.

Disclaimer: I am in no way advocating breaking the law. I am simply putting forth an observation.
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hsf
30 Sep 2015 17:20:08
Ed033 is right. They have been saying it every year, I was expecting them to have found a fossil or something when they said "major discovery on mars".

It's like being told that there is sand in the desert.
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Discussion #5141Talk Sense

28 Sep 2015 02:36:57
{Ed033's Note - Franky Scouser has recorded a podcast about his curiosity in conspiricies. Watch and listen to it below.

 

xXJediXx
28 Sep 2015 07:51:59
I enjoyed that frankie. Keep them coming .

Thanks
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Hazard54
28 Sep 2015 09:21:07
Enjoyed it too! Apart from the accent ;)

Only joking mate! Keep them coming :)
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RoscoJEF
28 Sep 2015 10:45:22
That was great Frankie. Very similar reasons to me. I might add apart from experiencing a UFO, once saw which could be best described as a grim reaper type figure walking in the cemetery and then disappeared behind a grave stone. My dad was with me and when I said I think I saw something he described the same thing to me. Never believed in paranormal until then and now I wouldn't dispute anyone if they encounter something themselves.

keep them coming

RoscoJef
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MrJonesy
28 Sep 2015 13:42:06
Brilliant man! great listen, think more of us should get involved in this podcasting and hope to hear more from you Franky. can't be a bad thing spreading our voices to try and "wake up" as many as possible
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mumbaianc
28 Sep 2015 14:20:27
Loved the podcast. Hope to see more of this.
{Ed002's Note - Great job Frankie - I actually moved to England at the time of the Toxteth riots.}
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Discussion #9665Talk Sense

27 Sep 2015 03:48:06
First of all i'm not denying that there could be Aliens or UFO's (because we can't see that side)

But i'm just curious, do some people realise that the "darkside" of the moon does infact get sunlight? because i've watched a few videos about it and the people go on like it is always dark and that's why we don't see the UFO's.

 

frankyscouser
27 Sep 2015 14:20:21
i believe most of the ufo's are from earth .
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KimPhilby
27 Sep 2015 22:41:23
Leftovers from Paperclip franky?
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zari
28 Sep 2015 11:18:52
"Operation paperclip" was the name of the initiative which aimed to capture and relocate scientists from Nazi Germany to the USA. They also acquired and transported technologies, prototypes and designs, though the official coverup stated that they were going after works of art. It unofficially began in 1945.

If one delves into the technologies the Germans were researching at the time and takes into account that in the 60 years since then those areas of applied sciences have not been publicly developed, one reaches the logical conclusion that they are now either black budget projects or have been continued by the industrial arm of the military industrial complex.
From the scant available information we assume that both the USA air-force and their navy run parallel research projects for a while but at some point they all came under the jurisdiction of the air-force, probably as an attempt to limit the leaks to the public.

We further assume that with the strengthening of the industry's position in the USA since the 1980s that the majority of these research projects have passed to the private sector (Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Siemens etc.).

From those first allied reports on "foo-fighters" and the information on the "bell project" which entered public domain one could safely assume that some projects had already yielded results. Any government would continue that research especially when taking into account the vast superiority of 'anti-gravitic' technology and signal resonance as compared to their conventional counterparts, jet propulsion and matter acceleration.

Though there is little proof of it, the gradual increase in UFO sightings reported since those early days, accompanied by witness reports which indicate that UFO designs have increased in complexity and size, hint at a continuation of those research programs. Lastly, the fact that differently shaped UFOs have been sighted over different countries, namely the USA and Russia, would indicate that more than one country is in possession of these technologies.
{Ed033's Note - Dark Journalist expands on zari's post in the below video interview with Dr. Joseph P. Farrell

UFOs And The Breakaway Security State - Black Budget and ET Politics
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KimPhilby
28 Sep 2015 12:43:48
Yes, the soviets had their own version of paperclip. Not to mention various assets in the American programs.
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Discussion #9756Talk Sense

26 Sep 2015 22:13:35
I think whoever trains the American military to be so stupid must surely be some sort of conspiracy. Watching black hawk down and its amazing the arrogance, incompetence and stupidity. If that had been Russian or British army it would have been over in 30 minutes. How on earth do they have this reputation of military prowess. Just explaining to mr philby the errors in their tactical doctrine.

 

frankyscouser
27 Sep 2015 14:23:34
maybe they mess up on purpose kim.
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jwalk
27 Sep 2015 22:09:19
As someone in the military myself working along side the yanks, I have seen first hand their stupidity and naivety. They have absolutely no subtlety in their methods either.
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KimPhilby
27 Sep 2015 22:45:52
Its the whole thing of as soon as they hit trouble they dig in to return fire but then become static and pinned down. Like in black hawk down. The British army is trained to find the weak point and force their way through. The Russian army just takes it head on takes the casualties and forces their way through. The Americans by going static invited more casualties. Bad tactical doctrine.
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zari
28 Sep 2015 10:14:00
Battle tactics is not something the establishment would wish to accurately analyze for the purpose of teaching their troops. I'm not talking just about the USA here.

The military teaches limited tactical variability under hierarchical departmentalization in order for their troops to only be operational while executing orders. Like the slaves troops of old their purposefully low battle efficiency serves their masters in case they eventually decide to question their orders and set their own path.

In guerilla warfare small independent groups identify their own targets and execute their own missions without any need for oversight. They do not rely on technology which makes them hard to locate, the little equipment they rely on allows them maneuverability and a much larger area of action, they are not taught to protect assets and preserve structures so they are mostly unpredictable.

If all troops were trained in guerilla tactics when they returned home from offensive wars and eventually reflected on their actions and the motives of those who were issuing their orders, they would turn against their governments with devastating results.
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Discussion #11124Talk Sense

26 Sep 2015 22:34:17
2 ufo sightings from the west coast of Scotland between the Isle of Arran and Girvan. 1 looked like a star but travelled some distance and got brighter along the way then suddenly just stopped. Another just appeared between Ailsa Craig and Arran, except this one was flashing red. Just appeared and hasn't moved since. I thought both were planes at first however when 1 stopped, it stopped for a good 20 mins but the other one just came out of nowhere

Cheers

 

TTTS
27 Sep 2015 04:14:23
Sounds like a bus load of Celtic fans on their way home via Cairnryan stopping of for a put stop
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frankyscouser
27 Sep 2015 14:21:48
no pics or video realamigo?
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realamigo
27 Sep 2015 21:44:09
Sorry my phone isn't good enough to take clear pictures since I dropped it. I live in quite a rural area which is undisturbed by any street lights. It was there for a good half hour before it disappeared.
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frankyscouser
27 Sep 2015 22:38:38
yeah same thing happened to me, poor camera quality.
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Discussion #9894Talk Sense

26 Sep 2015 05:59:57
New Studies Refute Claims That Cannabis Exposure Is Harmful To The Developing Brain
http://goo.gl/5mDJtO

Well worth a read guys.

Education negates ignorance. Links to all the studies are in the article.

The website is run by Amber Lyon. She use to be a CNN correspondent but left the MSM after her stories on the atrocities being committed by a US back dictator were swept under the carpet.

 

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Discussion #9961Talk Sense

25 Sep 2015 08:50:43
If reports are to be believed! and to be fair it was a quick read, looks like the US are blocking ISIS going on the UN sanctions list. Surely they wouldn't do that, couldn't possibly have a worse pr move?

 

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Discussion #9310Talk Sense

24 Sep 2015 12:47:44
just seen a story on sky news about a man who has been paralysed for the last 5 years since an accident,

has now took a few steps with mental training and a electrode to his brain.

it was subtlety used on sky as a new positive headline, which it is for the man but this goes far deeper about mental training, which ultimately means brainwashing, which goes way back and it shows you how easy it would be to mentally train an able bodied man, woman or child and only reinforces that mk ultra has used these methods for evil for decades.

 

KimPhilby
24 Sep 2015 21:34:07
It depends how its used. Like anything really. If its used positively like this for example to help someone walk then good. If it could be used to turn people into weapons then not so good. But you can say the same about education, religion, hypnotherapy. Its not the science itself its the people.
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zari
25 Sep 2015 13:59:48
Brain washing or conditioning is a function of the brain as much as deconditioning and reconditioning are. As with everything it can be used to either assist or impede one's development. These concepts have been known for millennia and practices based on them have been employed by various peoples for just as long.

Buddhist monks for example use mantras, small phrases or in cases single words of harmonic frequencies whose purpose is to assist said people to focus on specific aspects of nature. These enable them to promote and instill preferable characteristics in themselves.
On the opposite side of the spectrum we find the hassassins who used to initiate people to their dogma by burning and having them inhale various perception altering substances. They then proceeded to indoctrinate them with notions of "sacrifice to the cause will yield you a harem in the afterlife" or "our master is a god, behold his awesome powers" and other such petulant ideas.

The MK-Ultra project continues employing practices such as the latter example I have provided. The major difference is that chemistry has evolved since those earlier days, as has the science of psychology.
They now employ cocktails of substances so as to discombobulate their targets. They also understand how an environment devoid of sound and light amplifies the effects of said substances. This knowledge which originated from meditating in caves has gifted us with sensory deprivation chambers. Unfortunately they are rarely used to support the evolution of consciousness.

Furthermore and in regards to the employment of psychology they are now in possession of a vast list of common memes which they employ against their targets. Hollywood films, commercial music and the practically global morphing establishment some refer to as the education system, are all used against their targets.

The whole principle is based upon recognizing one's existing programming and manipulating any and all weaknesses to enter it and plant the seeds of their choice. In many ways it resembles hacking but for the mind, so mind hacking if you will.
Ed033 posted a list of events as a reply to a poster not long ago about attacks by purported Muslims in various countries. If memory serves right most of them took place in France. I would hazard a guess that they were all graduates of the MK-Ultra project.

As with computer hacking, if one carries their own programming, ideas accepted after careful deliberation but personally refined before assimilation, then one is aware of most of the weaknesses of the memes they carry. Accompanied with a sovereign mindset of "I need not justify my individuality to anyone" then one is beyond their methods (forbid a ping).

The search for gnosis, meditation on one's life's events while avoiding their further suppression and maintaining conscious thoughtfulness (zen) if practiced proactively, enable one to erect foundations that resonate harmonically with the universe which are thus unimpregnable to outsiders.
In the rare event that they are, they only reveal weaknesses that should be uncovered so as to be remedied. On those occasions intruders are a blessing.
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Melbourne CFC
25 Sep 2015 15:00:28
I love your posts Zari! What are the chances you're a fan of Terrence and Dennis McKenna?
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