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Discussion #2361Talk Sense

07 Oct 2015 19:59:14
Hey guys,

As you are all probably aware I frequent this site and post now and then, I just want to let you all know I'm not anywhere as knowledgeable as many on here, so if my questions come across in a bad way or silly way please take that into consideration, I'm a decent bloke really. :)

I have an open mind and will look at everything and take from it what I take.

Thought I'd share a story, I remember when I was young, when I was about 17 and doing the 17 year old things :)

Me and my friends were sitting in a car and in the sky appeared 3 lights, they were spaced out about 100 ft away from each other with one of the lights that looking in front of the other 2.

Me and my friends high on life :) Sat there for about 2 hours watching them as they changed positions a few times slowly then they seemed to have just vanished without us noticing.

We went back to the same place the next night and there was just one again from what we could see (could it of been a plane?) But it was there for about 15 mins then lit up brighter than anything I have seen and again disappeared seemingly without us noticing, this was the last time we saw them.

2 of my mates brushed it off the first night and said it must of been planes (for 2 hours going side to side?)

Really I'm just wondering what your guys take on that was, it's always puzzled me and one of my other friends.

I understand this is not ufo anonymous lol just thought I'd share :)

 

{Ed033's Note - Thanks for sharing CTR. Sounds like UFOs.

Not what i think what you saw is the following but what people don't know of is there appears to be living entities (Not ETs as we know them) but natural to Earth that live high up in the skies that are huge Jelly Fish type creatures that have the intelligence of fish, what they tend to do is follow planes sometimes. They exist in the infra red and ultra violet, out of our vision range.

They were discovered when Trevor James Constable aimed infra red and ultra violet cameras into the sky for hours at a time. There is/was video of this phenomena he took on youtube as i've seen it.
zari
07 Oct 2015 21:40:27
CTR, it could have been advanced and undisclosed military aircraft on a test flight. We know that various countries were experimenting with anti-gravity effects as early as the 1950s. I would imagine they would have fleets of craft operating with such technologies by now.
One negative effect of such technologies is that the high voltages (difference of potential) and frequencies used in their operation ionize the air that surrounds them which in turn emits photons during its discharge, thereby rendering them visible. There are ways to circumvent that effect but they wouldn't be flying if they were employed in their design.

What Ed033 is referring to is both possible and probable. Our senses are limited in that they enable us to perceive a fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum. Thus anything that vibrates at a frequency outside the part of the spectrum that we are equipped to perceive would be undetectable to us. "Rods" and "sky whales" are such beings that we've only become aware of through the use of instruments.
{Ed033's Note - And undisclosed military aircraft are also UFOs

If you haven't seen it, this is a bit chilling but adds a bit more to the whole UFO mystery.

UFOs and NATO: The Human Mutilation Cover Up FULL Film by Richard D Hall
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 21:45:56
I will defo check that out ed.

Yeh its always one of those things that has puzzled me. At the time I can remember feeling a freaked out. Nothing happened it was just a uneasy feeling as it didn't make sense
{Ed033's Note - Trevor James Constable wrote a book called, They Live in the Sky
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 22:00:04
Thanks Zari
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Discussion #2187Talk Sense

07 Oct 2015 13:51:54
The worst and most corrupt government is the American.
Ed033, what's your thoughts on 911? I've done research for years in it and believe it was an inside job

 

{Ed033's Note - What else can it be?
9/11 can be split into 3 parts. Pentagon, Shanksville and Manhattan.

i think we can explain how the Pentagon and Shanksville attacks took place but Manhattan is difficult to work out.

1. How the The Pentagon attack was carried out:
This is the best and most comprehensive presentation on what really happened concerning the 9/11 Pentagon Attack

Barbara Honegger - Behind the Smoke Curtain presentation length: 3 hours (but it's definitely worth watching)
youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk


2. How the Shanksville crater was probably made (8 minutes long video):
youtube.com/watch?v=MQTNy6Jb26A


3. Manhattan
i believe that black technology was used on 9/11 and that's why we can't get to the bottom of what happened.

i think they had to use black technology to turn the towers into dust because as the towers are/were built on an artificial basin (known as 'The Bath Tub'), it meant that if they performed a usual demolition, they risked the artificial basin cracking under the force of the demolitions, which could have flooded the whole of Manhattan (which the seem to have wanted to avoid).

The other problem we have with 9/11 is that aluminium plane wings cannot slice through steel and Boeing 767s cannot fly at 500 mph near the ground. Only a military missile can fly at that speed at ground level. But how do you get a military missile to look like a Boeing 767?

2 impossibilities about the one of the 9/11 planes (2 minute video)
youtube.com/watch?v=P3NtaDC_ZEo


But if you watch the above 2 minute video, you might believe that the plane was a CGI graphic but Richard D. Hall did some excellent work to show that CGI could not have been used if you watch the below 22 minute video.


CTR
07 Oct 2015 18:23:29
It has to be a inside job AL, it's laughable when the story we were told becomes the hardest to believe now.
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HoneyBadger
07 Oct 2015 17:54:20
9/11 was a fake terror attack used to justify military action in the middle east. Western governments are controlled by powerful international interests who stand to benefit from this military action (through oil, other resources, strategic geographic positioning causing never-ending wars etc). So it may be a bit simplistic to label the event as an 'inside job' however there would certainly have been groups or individuals within the US establishment who were involved or compliant, under the orders of their internationalist superiors.

Theres loads of smoking gun evidence which disproves the official narrative, too much to mention all in one place, but for instance:
1. Plane wings don't slice through structural steel
2. Jet fuel does not burn at a high enough heat to manipulate the structural steel to cause a collapse, let alone within the witnessed time frame
3. The collapse of the towers at free fall speed defies basic physics and can only be explained logically by some form of controlled demolition. And the collapse of tower 7 which wasn't even hit defies any practical logic
4. The fact that the supposed pilots were amateurs, had never been inside a cockpit of the model of jet used and could certainly not have pulled off the tricky manoeuvres (especially at the pentagon) at the stated speeds
5. The speeds given that the jets were travelling at in any case were beyond that which those models are designed to travel at near ground level, which would have meant danger of the planes being damaged well before impact let alone making it nigh on impossible for them to be flown accurately
6. The lack of debris first witnessed at the pentagon and total lack of any signs of a plane at the supposed crash site of flight 93
7. The witness accounts that what flew into the pentagon resembled a 'missile' or 'missile with no wings'
8. The fact that cctv footage from local businesses (which would surely give a clear view of a huge jet flying low then into the pentagon) was confiscated and has never been made public

I could go on all day, in fact I'm shocked at how many holes there are in the official version. Were they testing how easy it is to fool us?

The best documentary I have seen on the subject is called 'september 11 the new pearl harbour' and is available on youtube. I always recommend it to people who want to learn more about 9/11.

september 11 the new pearl harbour
youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 19:02:46
I rememeber hearing somewhere the only countries Rothschild didn't control bank was was Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran.

Is that right?
{Ed033's Note - yes, plus Cuba and North Korea, apparently
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 19:20:22
Of course I forgot north Korea lol.
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Discussion #11988Talk Sense

07 Oct 2015 14:32:05
Hawkins now saying he doesn't know what aliens intentions are. That a big step from his last position where he was backing a Russian billionaires plans to search for aliens.
Are we indeed been weaned onto the fact we are not alone

 

CTR
07 Oct 2015 18:15:01
Also,

The real question for me is are the 'aliens' actually aliens at all?

Could it be they are just us from millions of years ago that knew a catastrophe was imminent and we jumped planet to another to ride it out until the earth became habitable again?

Many people who claim to have encountered aliens say they looked just like us.

Just a thought.
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 18:10:27
I think we will soon find out we are not alone, it's just a case of the relevant organizations getting the stuff they need to know first.

There are two possible outcomes

1/ we are not alone
Or
2/ we are alone.

Both are as scary as each other.
{Ed033's Note - Who knows but with hominoids/apes having 48 chromosomes and with us having 46, a theory is that we were genetically tweaked. Therefore there could be a group of 'tweakers' out there.
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 19:03:55
I know ed! Somehow we lost 2 chromosomes yet became smarter, go figure lol.
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Discussion #9315Talk Sense

06 Oct 2015 23:21:19
just watched the joe rogan video melbourne sent.

one thing I have thought only the last 5 years is, we have always had natural disasters and the population has more or less been wiped out. also we know technology has always been around , even though we suppress that idea because people would be asking more questions.

My theory is like in the rogan video is, you have guys who know when the next catastrophe will happen like they did thousands of years ago and they rode it out either by the noah's ark theory or more likely underground bases.

that way once the earth is habitable again they remain in power while the rest of mankind gets a reset button which takes us back to following like sheep and never evolving.

 

{Ed033's Note - It's a sound theory to me.
Melbourne CFC
07 Oct 2015 09:01:22
Its a stretch mate. I believe Randall said the force that these impacts have had on the earth are the same as the entire worlds nuclear arms 8,000 times over. We don't know of anything that is capable of withstanding that, underground or not. So while its a slim possibility, you'd have to say evidence suggests that these impacts wipe out everything near them.

It would be pretty hard to judge the exact region they will hit and when also, so I would lean towards that theory having a few holes.
{Ed033's Note - This is the alternative 3 scenario, where they decided the only viable solution to a huge catastrophe is to go off planet to Mars.

alternative 3 explained in a 1977 TV documentary
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frankyscouser
07 Oct 2015 13:17:44
if its on earth in a D U M B or on mars the question has to be asked why has since recorded history or even before, that there has always been a intelligent hidden force guiding the human race into slaves?

its more unbelievable to think that every catastrophe that has decimated mankind have by chance found these hidden groups who have got together and created a secret society.
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CTR
07 Oct 2015 18:19:34
Maybe we are created as slaves to get what the creator's want from a planet and then we are left to our own devices?
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Discussion #5143Talk Sense

06 Oct 2015 18:28:56
{Ed033's Note - Weird creature found with body of buffalo?, head of crocodile? and reptilian skin?


goo.gl/InJnWH

 

frankyscouser
06 Oct 2015 19:30:50
the only thing that surprises me is we don't see more of these genetic cross breeds
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TTTS
06 Oct 2015 19:44:00
What is that? Some kind of genetic experiment?
{Ed033's Note - could be?
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KimPhilby
06 Oct 2015 22:00:09
Reminds me of those weird Egyptian gods.
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CTR
06 Oct 2015 23:26:55
That is strange!

Was there more tests done on this? It could it be some kind of crazy birth marks? If not it's very odd.

It's does look like it has scales.
{Ed033's Note - Performing tests on it would be the logical thing to do.
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growbun28
07 Oct 2015 00:38:24
Well I have had a look! Does Janet Jackson know that they have exhumed her brother. Definitely weird
{Ed033's Note - we're a little more grown up on here than that, growbun28
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Discussion #9314Talk Sense

06 Oct 2015 18:00:29
another example that the bbc is a establishment tool.

the main reason why I say that is,
panorama are doing a documentary about the vip sex scandal that has links to politicians. anyway they have had this info since 1984 and are now deciding to air this after 30 years and exaro news who have got this vip pedo story out into msm news have claimed the bbc are planning to do a hatchet job and debunk the claims.

this is the same corporation that denied they knew that jimmy saville was sexually abusing women and children and sometimes in BBC premises. throw in stuart hall and a host of dj's and they have the nerve to cast doubt on victims' claims, shows that the establishment are trying to put or dampen this fire.

i also believe they have used a senior inspector who has given reporters classified documents of victims also giving there address out.

thankfully we live in an age were mainstream news is dying and they will feel the backlash.

 

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Discussion #10888Talk Sense

06 Oct 2015 15:19:35
Going off what the media are saying about the Beckhams now having more money than the royal family, does anyone think they aren't telling us how much wealth they really have? The Royal family that is, not the Beckhams.

 

{Ed033's Note - Yes of course. It's not just that Royal family either. We have stats in newspapers and magazines on how rich the richest people in the world are but they always miss out Rockefellers, Rothschilds and all the other trillionaires out there.
OnlyoneManUtd
06 Oct 2015 16:26:14
Yeah, never thought of that. Who would you put as the richest, I'm sure it won't be Bill gates or any of the others that the media would have us believe. I wonder just how much the royal family are really worth. I'm sure they would still own a lot of foreighn land.
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Supasub
06 Oct 2015 17:24:05
I'd say Putin must be right up there now even though you won't get to the bottom of his wealth.
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frankyscouser
06 Oct 2015 17:24:29
haha I seen that article ,the monarchy still own lands all over the world ,even thou the commonwealth countries have independence they still own lands , also read she owns thousands of acres by denver airport.
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KimPhilby
06 Oct 2015 17:26:03
There also the largest land owners in Britain. Not to mention the foreign land portfolio, the shares, art collections.
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HoneyBadger
06 Oct 2015 17:43:58
Couldn't agree more, those rich lists with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet on top really are a hoot! Most likely those guys are puppets for the big boys.
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Discussion #2360Talk Sense

06 Oct 2015 07:45:31
I watched the Edward Snowden interview last night, what are peoples thoughts on him here?

 

HoneyBadger
06 Oct 2015 13:21:06
I watched the most recent richplanet video last night where Richard d hall surmised that both Snowden and assange are just part of the disinfo we are being fed, he thinks that if these guys were genuine they would have been hunted down and dealt with by now. I tend to lean in that direction also.
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KimPhilby
06 Oct 2015 13:57:08
Assange managed to get to an embassy. Its the one place that your safe. Unless you have a middle eastern rent a mob outside. No one will touch him inside an embassy because once that rule goes then what? Diplomatic immunity is a life saver. How many arab embassy staff have got off with crimes in London by waving their accreditation. If anything happened to him inside an embassy, and it was provable responsibility in one direction or the other then the international outcry would be huge.
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frankyscouser
06 Oct 2015 17:25:22
i think snowdon is a shill.
{Ed033's Note - if they really wanted snowden dead, they would be able to use one of their electromagnetic weapons on him from a distance. So therefore i think he's not threat to the elite.
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HoneyBadger
06 Oct 2015 17:42:25
Kim,
You would know a lot more than me about that kind of thing so I take your point and thanks for the info.
Coming from more of a point of ignorance I have to rely on gut instinct a lot of the time, trying to read between the lines of what is said etc.
Assange quote on 9/11
"I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
I have real trouble putting trust in anyone who has researched 9/11 only to arrive at this conclusion, let alone someone of his background putting this message out.
Some of his supposed views scream controlled opposition to me.
{Ed033's Note - we're back to the idea that if the elite wanted to kill him, they easily could but he's no threat to them. He's a zionist agent who might embarrass governments (except israel) but that's about it.
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KimPhilby
06 Oct 2015 22:11:04
Depends on the context. Maybe its like the Kennedy assassination, people have spent 50 years talking about 2nd or 3rd shooters, the grassy knoll etc. But no one asks the important questions. Maybe the same with 911.

As for Snowden. I'm undecided. I agree with the editor if they wanted him dead they could accomplish it. Although once in Russia and in the hands of Moscow centre they'd have a job. But he's the best coup the centre has managed in 20 years. The Intel he's provided has been the real deal. And some of the stuff leaked has been highly damaging for Washington. I can't see them shooting themselves in the feet like that.
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Discussion #11987Talk Sense

05 Oct 2015 20:03:17
Chris Spivey anybody, what are your thoughts?

 

{Ed033's Note - i think he could be under some censorship now on what he says / posts after they took him to court, imprisoned him and threatened him.
HoneyBadger
06 Oct 2015 13:23:20
Thats interesting Ed033, is that opinion based on anything Chris has said or just a hunch on your behalf?

I used to be a regular reader of his site but more recently I've only been dipping in and out.
{Ed033's Note - it's a hunch based on the following:

As far as i'm concerned, there's 2 things they can't tolerate.

1. Is if you have any first hand testimony or first hand evidence that they don't want out in the public

2. Is if you have any proof of genuine 'inside' info (from some part of government) that they don't want out in the public

The reason they can't tolerate this, is because you have irrefutable evidence in your possession that can destroy any of their lies.

i think Chris Spivey had evidence about the Lee Rigsby incident that could have only come from either 1st hand witnesses or a government agency. Therefore they sent round police to grab him and put him in a police cell to put the 'frighteners' on him to stop him from talking about the Lee Rigsby incident anymore.

But he didn't stop so they had to get serious with him. i don't blame Chris Spivey for anything because if they get serious with you, you're forced to comply.

It's just a hunch and i don't want to say it, but i would think Chris Spivey could be compromised in some way now.

i don't know what other people think?
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HoneyBadger
06 Oct 2015 15:16:14
All seems plausible to me Ed033. Like I said I've not visited the site so much recently, when I get a chance to review his recent content more closely I'll come back and give my opinion.
{Ed033's Note - that would be good. it would also be good if incorrect.
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frankyscouser
06 Oct 2015 17:31:42
the vibe I got before he went quiet was, he was genuinely concerned about his grandchild with the threat about social services, which I can understand.
{Ed033's Note - That's part of what i'm saying, they are being serious and they threatened him.
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Discussion #5142Talk Sense

04 Oct 2015 23:32:31
{Ed033's Note - Geoengineering, A Clear And Present Danger. Video presentation by Dane Wiggington

 

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Discussion #9896Talk Sense

04 Oct 2015 11:09:20
Gotta love NATOs use of the term 'collateral damage'. How in the world did Obama win a Nobel Peace Prize?

US air strike on a hospital

goo.gl/Nv8Zbj

KimPhilby
04 Oct 2015 11:20:31
Especially so soon after taking office when the process takes over a year. Highly suspicious.

And what did he actually do for peace?

Mandela and de Klerk, Arafat and Rabin, even the terrorists in northern Ireland (both sides). Obamas not even in the same league.
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TTTS
04 Oct 2015 11:41:47
And Saudis, human rights?.
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KimPhilby
04 Oct 2015 12:34:18
Biggest joke of the lot. Still long as the oil keeps flowing.
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KimPhilby
04 Oct 2015 22:48:01
Which makes me wonder just far Putin will go now with his war on terror.
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HoneyBadger
05 Oct 2015 13:43:20
Kissenger another more than dubious winner of the Nobel peace prize!

With the list of previous winners and the use of terms like "collateral damage" it seems that Orwell's notion of double speak is alive and well.
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Discussion #11986Talk Sense

03 Oct 2015 19:40:35
Millions of fish washed up on the shore in West Kerry 2 days ago, mostly sprat and some mackerel.
Strange thing is scavengers and birds haven't touched them

 

{Ed033's Note - It would be worth putting a geiger counter near them.
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