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Discussion #9305Talk Sense

07 Sep 2015 17:34:19
panorama bbc1 are doing a special edition on jeremy corbyn tonight at 8.30.

strange considering there are three other candidates, either this is going to be full of propaganda spin to make him look like a terror apologists or it will question how old he is.

by doing this now before a vote is counted it implies he will win the election. me, my wife and daughter voted for him. sorry me, my wife and daughter have tried to vote for him, not sent a ballot paper out and I have contacted LAB to resend papers. I am not the only one by the sounds of it. could be a mistake or it could be games played out.

TTTS
07 Sep 2015 22:00:49
Not surprising piece of 'churnlisim' from the BBC. This will really please their controllers
{Ed033's Note - They must be really scared of people who like what Corbyn is saying.
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frankyscouser
07 Sep 2015 22:23:41
As I thought, a propaganda show which reminds me of the Scottish Independence vote on a lesser scale but still they run a program a few days before the vote, is not balanced journalism.

bbc could not find 1 politician who believes in corbyn?
then we get to the rubbish about hamas and co.
it cuts out the real message. his speech was all about peace in israel and palestine but chooses to focus on banners and the words "my friends "

i expect a lot more attacks if he wins the leadership and like kim suggested, it will be from his own party more than the tories. the friends of Israel MPs would rather tear up the party than back Corbyn and he must know that. he has to get shut of them all or he will get the Julius Caesar knife.

on a plus side the more you attack the man the more popular he becomes.
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KimPhilby
08 Sep 2015 21:14:40
You have to be 100% behind someone to stab them in the back
{Ed033's Note - Jeremy Corbyn may have already said to some of his colleagues, something similar to, "Et tu, Brute".
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KimPhilby
09 Sep 2015 17:23:30
But which colleagues ;)
{Ed033's Note - the one's that he knows are against him and stabbing him in the back
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frankyscouser
10 Sep 2015 12:22:00
i think he has a good idea who is against him as they all went public , I think it will be the andy burnham types who quickly realized that corbyn was popular and kept there mouth shut ,for instance tom watson , the blairites must know there days are numbered now as the real LAB people have let there feelings be known.
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Discussion #9753Talk Sense

07 Sep 2015 17:01:01
What do you think of this:

https://goo.gl/33NDBt

 

{Ed033's Note - According to the story it is allegedly an alien body 260ft long on a comet that the Rosetta probe landed on, but it is too blurred to make out, so it could be anything including just rocks.
KimPhilby
08 Sep 2015 13:44:56
Just thought i'd share it for ufologists on here.
{Ed033's Note - yes, thanks for sharing
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Discussion #9752Talk Sense

07 Sep 2015 15:49:51
I see Syrian state tv is saying that Russian troops are fighting along side Assads forces.

If true what do people think?

Also John Kerry has raised concerns on the new airbase being built in Syria by Russia. Hypocritical given the bases they have in the region.

 

frankyscouser
07 Sep 2015 17:01:06
missed most of any news for the past couple of weeks so not fully clued up.

russian troops fighting along Assad only means one thing, the russians know the west want Syria as quick as possible and they are making it officially known to the world that they are not going.

what do I think? I feel for the Syrian people who are stuck with an evil dictator on one side and getting attacked by funded terrorists on the other side.

john kerry is a modern day henry kissinger.
{Ed033's Note - Welcome back frankyscouser, hope you had a great holiday.

i think i might prefer Assad over the funded terrorists, if i was a Syrian living there.

Syrian Girl - 8 Reasons Why The NWO Hates Syria
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frankyscouser
07 Sep 2015 17:49:49
cheers edd , yes we had a great time. judging by the refugees crisis you are right. let's hope corbyn gets in power and bring some sanity to this situation. after all, I genuinely believe over 90% of the uk population want peace not more wars/arms/funding blowing the middle east to pieces.
{Ed033's Note - yes, but there was a 2 million man demonstration in UK not to go to war in Iraq but Tony Blair still gave the go ahead to go to war with Iraq, but not only that but the 2 million on the march and the millions more who didn't want the war with Iraq, just stood down afterwards because they don't get the idea that government and government employees are 'we the people's' servants.

People might be excited about Corbyn now, but when he can't deliver for whatever reason, the millions waiting for something good to happen will stand down again and wait for the next exciting thing that just might make things better. This has actually been going on for hundreds of years. We all saw it with Obama becoming President of the corporation known as the United States of America, "Hope and Change", "Yes, We Can".
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KimPhilby
07 Sep 2015 20:19:15
I was going to use the Obama example.

I think you're expecting too much from corbyn, franky.
{Ed033's Note - corbyn is likely 100% genuine, he's like Ron Paul in America, who appeared to be genuine but Ron Paul would never be able to do anything beneficial for America. It's like the Christians wanting Jesus to come back, they might want it but its not going to happen.
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frankyscouser
07 Sep 2015 22:26:14
kim, its not corbyn that excites me its the people who are all singing from the same hymn sheet.
{Ed033's Note - "Yes We Can" = "Thank You Satan" [backwards]

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KimPhilby
08 Sep 2015 23:13:11
That's a bit creepy
{Ed033's Note - The question is whether they chose, "Yes We Can", for the specific purpose of, if you say it just right forwards, it sounds like, "Thank you Satan" when played backwards, as they know that we subconsciously are wired for reverse speech.

Humans, in forward speech also let out a few subconscious words backwards now and then so when reversed, you can hear what the subconscious is thinking.

reverse speech faqs

if anyone doesn't believe me, listen to the reverse speech examples on the above web site.
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Discussion #11976Talk Sense

06 Sep 2015 18:27:32
So the DNA in a spider has been injected into a goat embryo, the result a goat that has silk in its milk.
take that 1 stage further, a human skin like substance that can withstand a bullet had been woven out of this.
Now think human machine hybrids with a skin that can withstand bullets.
Maybe not sci-fi at all?

 

{Ed033's Note - Sounds like the future Police Officer (Zero Tolerance Terminator who is The Law)
defender of humanity
10 Sep 2015 19:13:04
The best bullet proof vests are made of silk. Your post goes along with all the research on GM crops.bearing in mind that the military research is about 40 years ahead of civil research.the military has always been looking for ways to make so called "super soldiers" from giving them LSD and other drugs trying to enhance there soldiering skills and make them fearless.im sure the next step would be to genetically modify soldiers,it really wouldn't surprise me if GM soldiers exists now.
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Discussion #11975Talk Sense

06 Sep 2015 18:12:32
the world's largest arms fair was in London this week end. You can imagine the hard sell there.

 

KimPhilby
07 Sep 2015 12:07:26
Don't think they have to push too hard.
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Discussion #2378Talk Sense

05 Sep 2015 23:20:44
It was only a small number of years ago now that parliament rejected any British involvement in Air Strikes and acts of war against Syria, but today, our very own chancellor has hinted that British forces may need to step on to ground in Syria to oust Isis and Assad, declaring Assad as an 'evil regime'.

Of course, the recent news on refugees is sickening to the stomach, but I can't help think that the powers-that-be have got their creepy little excuse now to invade as 'freedom fighters' by causing more death and problems to an already deathly situation.

I've been waiting for this moment for a number of years as the U.S. And Britain have been waiting for an excuse to a problem probably influenced by the CIA and MI6.

Who else do we think has funded this Isis debacle?!

All planned, and planned at the expense of innocent Syrians as an excuse to invade for reasons that we will never understand.

They've destroyed Iraq, Libya and next Syria and Iran.

A sickening time to live in and a sickening era to call ourselves 'British'.

p.s. I'm aware of a lad by mine training in the Scottish Highlands with his regiment over two years ago now who were all told they were being prepared for Syria.

 

{Ed033's Note - ISIS was created by the Anglo/American/Israeli cabal and is probably funded by Saudi Arabia and the American tax payers.

In order to take out Iran, they have decided that they have to take out Syria first. For various reasons they are behind schedule in taking out Assad and Syria.

i don't know why Iran is so important to take out, as part of their agenda, but there is a long term agenda for the expansion of Israel into something which is being called at the moment, "Greater Israel", which would eventually cover the whole of the Middle East and Turkey as Turkey is currently run by Jews, who took over Turkey during the 'Young Turks' takeover. If Syria is taken out, it would allow Israel to start the expansion.

i'll say it again for people, ISIS stands for, It's Still Israel, Stupid.
DaveyBootle
06 Sep 2015 00:28:39
The I word is difficult to even type.

I'm aware of the influence of Saudi Arabia but suspect this is a collective issue driven by the Americans (albeit with some rich pickings for the other conspirator countries!)

It would make sense that Turkey is driven in to Syria with all their national reserve forces, but I suspect this would potentially create a religious divide in Turkey and may be difficult.

Thanks for the informative info.
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TTTS
06 Sep 2015 01:11:12
Corbyn could be a spanner in the works. He wants ISIS removed but by asking all the right questions. Who's funding them , who's training them etc. Of course he knows. But the fact he want to wash the establishment's linen in public won't go down too well.
Food taster required?
{Ed033's Note - it's obvious though that if Corbyn gets anywhere and then causes trouble, then he'll be the recipient of a heart attack inducing, microwave weapon (the same as John Smith and Robin Cook)
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KimPhilby
06 Sep 2015 10:05:23
The Assad regime is a nasty piece of work. As I've said before I have spent time in the middle east as part of a diplomatic fact finding mission, with special relevance to certain topics that are classified. This took in trips to Damascus, Baghdad, and others. Now ill state i'm not an arab specialist, I was there partly because it was a crap assignment that no one wanted and I was at the time in the dog house. But also because I wasn't an arabist I was also an unbiased observer.

Bear in mind as a soviet citizen I was used to seeing people fear a secret police. But the middle east was a whole different level. I certainly didn't shed any tears for Hussein.

Now let's agree that the arab spring was stirred up by certain intelligence agencies. The fact remains that the conditions had to exist for people to be receptive. And anyone living under a dictatorship will be receptive. As the editor said the other day an imposed regime will always collapse.

Now for me the interesting thing is two years ago. When the west wanted to intervene but were blocked. The resulting vacuum created Isis and the refugee crisis.
{Ed033's Note - When the west wanted to intervene and were blocked, they (the west) created ISIS as the 'unblocker'. ISIS is too well funded and too organised to be anything else but a west creation.
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DaveyBootle
06 Sep 2015 13:16:28
I worry for Corbyn.

The spin and propaganda against him is nothing short of bullying, but what did we expect?

I see the anti Semite label is well and truly being flung at him, even though he categorically denies this.

He's a brave man, but with respect t to him - at his age, why not stir it up by sticking to his principles?
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KimPhilby
06 Sep 2015 12:20:33
Well its Saudi funded and there funds come from the petrol.

The difficulty for me is how you balance the pro Zionist faction working with an anti Zionist faction to create Isis.
{Ed033's Note - You're thinking at the political level when there is big picture level as well. But the history of the Saud family should suggest that they have to do as they're told otherwise they're out of Saudi Arabia and another Arab family will be put in their place.

i heard that the Saud family partially funded 9/11 and whether that's true or not it doesn't matter as the Saud family are asked for money and they give it, or they're out.
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Discussion #11974Talk Sense

04 Sep 2015 20:29:17
With the MSM now all over the Syrian refugee crisis, there must be something they want to go under the radar. Refugees are being killed everyday. children being blown to pieces in Palestine, Somalia and Pakistan daily.
it isn't humanitarian their interest for sure.

 

HERBIE
04 Sep 2015 22:42:38
Maybe it was planned all along.
Lets get the kettle boiling.
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KimPhilby
05 Sep 2015 08:59:13
Maybe this is just me and I'm old and paranoid. But all week most people including your prime minister has been no more migrants then after 1 dead boy on a beach and the resulting outcry the whole positions reversed. Just strikes me as too convenient.

I'm not saying you shouldn't fulfill your moral obligations regards genuine refugees. Just find this a bit suspicious.
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KimPhilby
05 Sep 2015 09:15:27
Id also question how many are genuine refugees. There's plenty of safe neighbouring countries where they'd fit in more easily due to religious, cultural and ethnic similarities. Also they cross several safe countries to try and reach Germany. What's so special about Germany. Shows that a significant proportion are economic migrants. I've nothing against people moving to better there lives but call it as it is.
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zari
05 Sep 2015 09:51:56
TTTS, I agree. I suppose they could be trying to gather public support by appealing to sentiment for a new series of international aid payments. These are payments provided on conditions which aim to ensure that the country is covertly taken over by seizing, infiltrating and corrupting all positions of power within said country. This is achieved by making it mandatory that the money is used on rebuilding the infrastructure of said countries.

As is common in such cases the only operating construction companies equipped to undertake such projects will just so happen to have ties to the military-industrial complex that produced the armaments, provided the training and funding, and are the ones responsible for destroying the country in the first place. Furthermore as is common practice they will happen to subcontract their work to independent contractors, among which agents of three letter organisations who could not previously roam the region without arousing suspicion and drawing attention to themselves. Equipped with employee i'd badges from respectable companies, that due to the work they are conducting have the newly and democratically appointed president's personal line on speed dial, said agents will be free to follow instructions and implement long drawn schemes.
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HERBIE
05 Sep 2015 15:34:41
Exactly my thoughts Kim Philby.
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Discussion #9468Talk Sense

04 Sep 2015 11:10:56
Views on transgenders? I hate how people only care now because a kardashian is one. Now all the sheep care.

 

gibsy21
04 Sep 2015 22:17:54
Estrogen in water, metro sexuality, feminine fashion and a pushing of the transgender. Said it before, weaken the men, you weaken the punch of the rebellion.
{Ed033's Note - Chemicals used in plastics feminise the brains of males.

There's also a rumour that The Pill women take to not get pregnant has a built in side effect that makes them prefer girly, effeminate males and or they are attracted to women.

In order to get total control, you don't want a load of strong men fighting you.
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zari
04 Sep 2015 22:33:57
People who transcend genders have been around since the beginning. Their nature used to see them either segregated from society or revered. In the latter societies they served as healers and spiritual guides.
In spiritual teachings the masculine and feminine energies are said to exist in everyone, however in most people one is more dominant than the other and that is were gender stems from. In transgender people these two phenomenally opposite energies coexist in harmonious balance enabling said people to transcend dualities by seeing beyond them in ways anew and even discover that which most people seek outside, in themselves.

Without delving in dualities, linearity, trigonometry, Hegelian dialectics, the symbolism of compasses and "all seeing eyes", matters pertinent to this discussion, most can be analyzed in relation to their opposites. To gain a neutral perspective of such relationships one must be in a position outside said reaction, enabling the observer to reach an objective conclusion.
In humans the distinction between genders did not rest on whether the reproductive organs were inside or outside the body. The distinction was in the abilities most often encountered in either of the genders, which made either gender more suitable for completing certain tasks. As an example, men had harder skin with ample hair so as to offer protection from friction and prolonged exposure to sunlight during the hunt, whereas women were of smaller frame thus requiring less sustenance but at the same time making it harder to provide for themselves.
These distinctions are slowly disappearing due to the fact that we no longer choose and adapt to our environment but morph it to our choosing. I imagine in the distant future the hormonal production of both species will diminish and at that point our species will evolve into a hermaphroditic one, encompassing both gender's characteristics in one form.

A problem encountered in modern society is the importance placed on carnal pleasure. While there is nothing wrong with pleasure, to devote ones life in its pursuit, hedonism, is to loose perspective and deduct value from all the mechanisms existing in the human body that are placed higher than the reproductive centers. I perceive that the amount of interest expressed in the sexual preferences of others arise from crippling insecurities, impressed in us from imposed morphing institutions and an establishment which has correctly identified that a life based on the YOLO principle would render them unopposed.
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defender of humanity
11 Sep 2015 01:17:38
There's only small amounts of estragen in our products and small amounts of flouride in the water to numb us down and make males more feminine, but if you have been ingesting them since u were young, it's like any chemical or drug you CAN overdose over a space of time. Most people would dispute this but just read the back of your toothpaste or anti depressants or behaviour modifying drugs ( which is made up of mostly fluoride) the toothpaste clearly says do not ingest. And well you know that fluoride based anti depressants will modify human behaviour. its the same with most products, some take longer than others to take affect the brain. but all the same, the products do the same thing, make us dumb and more feminine.
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Discussion #5138Talk Sense

03 Sep 2015 22:55:38
{Ed033's Note - Sofia Smallstorm interviews Dave McGowan on the idea that the 50s/60s rock bands all go back to a place called Laurel Canyon, where there was a military base turned into a film and recording studio. Where most of these new rock legends were pure performers and could not play instruments (session musicians played in their stead), didn't write their own songs and a lot of them were children of the highest people within the military industrial complex. Essentially the 50s/60s rock and roll was all engineered as part of an agenda.

 

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Discussion #12504Talk Sense

02 Sep 2015 10:06:59
Anyone know anything about the 23rd of Sept 2015 and if you type Deamon portal into google maps it is tagged as CERN.?

 

{Ed033's Note - 23rd of Sept 2015 is probably a Pentagon PSY-OP to see how many people they can get to believe something impossible (such as, we're all gong to move into the fifth dimension) will happen on any given date they choose.

We discussed 23rd of Sept 2015 further below, where the only real probable thing that could happen is an engineered financial crash of some kind because financial crashes tend to occur historically around September/October.

Cern are trying to do dangerous stuff such as create portals in space-time and they have no idea what they're doing or what the consequences maybe of what they're doing. Basically their thinking is, let's try and create a portal in space-time and see what happens.
KimPhilby
02 Sep 2015 13:16:03
It never ends well in the movies does it.
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Supasub
02 Sep 2015 21:25:46
It will be my birthday. 39 and enough for me to think that I'm getting too old to worry about this stuff in general.
{Ed033's Note - Happy birthday for 23rd of September. May you live in interesting times
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KimPhilby
02 Sep 2015 23:06:34
A couple of weeks after mine. Age withheld.
{Ed033's Note - Your age number could be a Jack Benny 39
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Onlyone ManUtd
02 Sep 2015 23:40:53
How the hell do they create a portal?
{Ed033's Note - At the moment they can only create microscopic black holes (using the super high energies created in the LHC), which only last less than a nano second, but they are trying to create larger, more permanent black holes that connect to other dimensions i.e. a portal.
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KimPhilby
03 Sep 2015 17:59:32
Alas I'm past 39
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Discussion #11123Talk Sense

31 Aug 2015 23:22:16
what do people think of the eu?

should we remain part of it or leave asap?

 

HERBIE
01 Sep 2015 15:59:18
It's too late to leave, it has a grip on the UK and it's not letting go.
EU is bad for Britain and its people.
{Ed033's Note - The Eu has zero legitimacy as the only people who voted for it was the people of Eire and that was after the second time of voting. The Eu is banking on the idea that as long as it can stay around long enough, it will infest so much that you have to keep it at any cost. Not only that, people will think it legitimate the longer it stays around.
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zari
02 Sep 2015 11:34:23
The ECSC which laid the foundations for the EU was formed in 1951. Between then and now is a time period less than the average life span. There are examples of people having been under occupation for much larger time periods and that never stopped them from reclaiming control of their lives and future.
As Ed033 pointed out the EU is an imposed establishment. As such it is destined to fail. For that to happen though people need to be able to envision an alternative and before that, they must first be in a position to perceive what the EU is, how it affects peoples lives and what its aims are.

An argument as to why the EU should cease to exist.

Currently every continent has its own union, some more than one. They are the precursor to global governance. They are gradual implementations of regional federations which aim to revoke the ability of local societies to decide their future.
A parallel to this can be observed in the ongoing trend of de-emphasizing the need for self control and the concurrent gradual imposition of a set of externally decided guidelines that are aimed towards controlling people. In other words the legal establishment.
By employing the fallacies of authority and expertise self-anointed rulers seek to purge personal choice from the spectrum of possibility and replace it with unquestionable obedience and pseudo-choice, reaction to external stimuli through total control of environmental parameters.

The consequences of this are serious and require attention.
By removing personal choice one removes variability among our species and thus diversity. Diversity is a natural law existing because it eliminates the possibility of absolute system failure. When one organism, in the case of our species an idea, fails another replaces it. Thereby continuing the process of evolution without the need for alternating cycles of construction-destruction.
The reason for this is that said cycles require the expenditure of unfathomable amounts of energy to perhaps no benefit to the all. Efficiency is paramount as it influences when relative infinity is achieved. As an example, a watermelon can feed a nest of ants for a few months but that same watermelon can feed a human for a couple of days. By increasing efficiency we reduce the amount of required energy thus enabling us to achieve perpetuity easier.
Physics and mathematics set clear rules in natural laws as to how one should function both in regards to the self and on every scale between unit and all. Limit is called the natural logarithm for a reason, it exists to indicate the path towards perpetuity, infinity.
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