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Discussion #11961Talk Sense

05 Aug 2015 11:22:30
Noel Edmonds saying that death is impossible and we are just a vessel for energy has been a thought I've been having for quite a while now, what percentage of the body is made up of atoms, being more or less indestructible where do they go when the actual host breaks down, does that cluster break up move on and create something else or remain together sometime creating a spirit like item, thing, ghost etc

 

Supasub
05 Aug 2015 21:49:46
If you want to get very deep into it. I've had a discussion albeit under the influence with a spiritual healer who has his own clinic in Sweden. According to him (and at the time I undertood) that about 5 or 6 energies sources (e.t. energies) inhabit all of us just moving from body to body. I suppose a little like the film "fallen" with denzel Washington. I can see how it would work. He also believes that the star people came from the skies and discovered sexual pleasure and began mating with primates/ monkeys etc.
{Ed033's Note - i suppose this spiritual healer's beliefs/opinions are as valid as anyone else's because we really have no idea. We can all believe what we want.
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Supasub
05 Aug 2015 22:24:12
Yes ed. He's a relation of mine who practices acupuncture and Chinese medicine. It's not like I just got taken in by some holistic doctor. We had a talk for hours and it was interesting what was talked about. I've witnessed him and another of my relatives do some some amazing things and come out with some good stuff and I'm as sceptical as anyone else.

They visit glastonbury twice a year taking a group with them and they also go to Peru/ mayan temples/ machu pichu once a year taking a group also. I suppose they can project things onto you as it's probably good for business but I do like the fact that they can elaborate on things that I believe in and it's not like they visit the same sites I do or read the same things I do but we still share similar beliefs as I do with others on this page. Just sometimes you follow your own gut instinct/ belief etc and I don't think you'd be far away from the truth rather than what's in the media.
{Ed033's Note - That's great, all i'm saying is that it's just a theory like any other theory unless we can see some evidence / proof. We've heard lots of theories and what we tend to do is until we see some evidence / proof, we go with what feels right or what resonates with us. The new age people just made up a load of stuff (like, in 2012 the good people are all going to move into the next dimension and the bad people are going to stay on the 3rd dimensional Earth) and that's still hanging around the alternative information.
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Kaizer
06 Aug 2015 12:53:44
i do believe in some alternative medicine practitioners, and I had multiple cases of sprained ankles, where I couldn't walk properly after every injury (same ankle btw).

when I was a kid, my mom brought me to a chinese medical practitioner who immediately asked for an x-ray before he would proceed (bit weird but he said it is to make sure there are no damage to the bone, which as I grew up made me realize that he just combined modern with traditional methods). he'd boil some sort of oil and massaged my ankle with it, with 1 pull, I was able to walk properly without any pain in seconds, though the pull did hurt abit.

think I sprained that ankle 4-5 times, and 1 of those times we went to a hospital, which ended up taking 4-5 visits costing a lot for the same injury, and took along time to walk properly too.

the thing about alternative medicines, there are so many fake practitioners, atleast in my place.
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Discussion #9298Talk Sense

04 Aug 2015 14:57:08
a fact I never knew was one of the vids edd posted, micheal of bernicia was in any revolution that one thing never ever got looted, burned or destroyed was the banks.
it's plain to see it was orchestrated and that brings to me on to my next point.
jeremy corbyn if in power wants the banks to be nationalised which will make the most dangerous man to the establishment. honest to god in my lifetime, I have never known a politician on these shores get attacked by everyone except the people.

(hypothetically)
If he gets to be the leader and his policies gets peoples votes and there is a real chance of him being the prime minister, I can see two things happening:

1. take him out before he becomes leader, not jfk method bearing in my mind he will be nearly 70 and the natural causes spiel.

2. if he becomes leader at number 10, then we will see a step up of terror attacks on this country not seen since the 70s and 80s. they will play on the fact that corbyn is anti-war and wants peace talks and anti-trident, but the unseen shadow government will use this as a platform and I would go as far as saying it could be on a par or bigger than 9/11.

all the political nonsense about corbyn being anti-buisness is a smokescreen.
he's going after the banks and the war machine.

Mrs E
04 Aug 2015 23:10:50
Will you vote for a Corbyn led Government Franky?
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KimPhilby
05 Aug 2015 13:47:47
If as ed33 suggests they have dirt on all politicians then who's to say he would deliver on what he says?
{Ed033's Note - good point, and if they have no dirt on someone like John Smith (ex-labour leader), they give you a heart attack when you're out walking like they did with John Smith and Robin Cook.
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frankyscouser
05 Aug 2015 15:48:39
well for one you will get a lot more people voting than ever. I think the figure released says that 30 to 40% did not vote and the majority of them I believe are people who see no real difference between the two parties.

With Jeremy Corbyn backing cheaper state owned transport, state owned and properly regulated gas/electricity for instance, will get people interested to vote. like one of the regulars said, people will only vote if it benefits them and this will.

another reason I was surprised with is how many other followers of other parties like corbyn. An example, I chat to this ukip lady on twitter. she is a staunch ukip voter and I had a stereotypical idea she would be a racist. don't get me wrong, I don't agree with her on certain topics and still think Nigel Farage is a shill, but she pointed out to me that corbyn is not a million miles from what ukip want and she would be tempted to vote for him in a general election. There are voters of other parties that want and have ideas in common with corbyn.

1. ukip voters want state owned transport and do not want ttip, the same as corbyn

2. green party voters do not want austerity or trident, same as corbyn

3. lib dems voters want free education, same as corbyn

4. snp would either want a coalition with corbyn or many would go back to lab because they sing from the same hymn sheet

and to answer your question Mrs E, I have registered for the 1st time in my life to be a member of the labour party so I could vote for corbyn and if he gets elected I will vote for him in an election. In an ideal world, we would not have a need for governments, but this feller is as close as you'll get to a leader that wants what's best for the country.
{Ed033's Note - i guess we'll find out soon whether Jeremy Corbyn is for real or has been put out to soak up the discontent people for a while.

For all we know, Jeremy Corbyn is like an Obama figure who comes in full of promises and then delivers nothing and continues the zionist agenda at the same time.

This is a realistic view, rather than being negative. If he is for real then he won't be able to get very far. If he does get elected as Prime Minister, i'd assume that he is a shill.

The only other possibility for me is that if he does get elected and he is for real, then that means that the zionists have another powerful group in Britain, trying to take them on.
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frankyscouser
05 Aug 2015 16:06:22
valid point kim but the way he's is getting attacked by everyone including his own party members I very much doubt he has any skeletons.
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frankyscouser
05 Aug 2015 16:42:29
i have looked thru his history and I honestly do not think he is a shill, from backing strikes to going against his party numerous times, to his dislike of blair in the iraq war. I saw an interview last night about his view on the chilcott report and saying if it's found out that lies were told then everyone responsible should be charged with war crimes. really think he's the real deal.
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Discussion #9297Talk Sense

03 Aug 2015 12:54:06
now stuff about former prime minister edward heath abusing children being reported ,this is getting bigger and bigger.

KimPhilby
03 Aug 2015 13:45:59
Wasn't he mentioned last year?
{Ed033's Note - David Icke has been mentioning Ted Heath for years as a serial child abuser. i think it's also in at least one of his books; such as The Biggest Secret, Children of the Matrix
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frankyscouser
03 Aug 2015 14:54:58
heath never been mentioned on msm until now.
{Ed033's Note - if they start going through all the MP child abusers over the last 60 years, there's probably going to be a large list.
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TTTS
03 Aug 2015 15:26:26
Actually saw something that suggests heath went beyond abuse. Don't know how to post items.
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frankyscouser
03 Aug 2015 15:52:51
i bet cameron is bottling it now with he's links to covering abuse up.
yep ttts icke claimed kids who were abused were murdered on his boat and dumped at sea.
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KimPhilby
03 Aug 2015 15:56:33
I think I've seen the same thing.
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Discussion #9748Talk Sense

01 Aug 2015 23:09:49
Bin laden plane crash seems a bit odd.

 

rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
02 Aug 2015 11:01:38
Maybe someone is sending a message to the Bin Ladens.
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KimPhilby
02 Aug 2015 14:39:16
Maybe. Did you see the interview with the pilot who's always flying into that airport?
{Ed033's Note - no, what's the link?

Maybe the bin ladens have been talking to people saying osama died before his recent official death.
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KimPhilby
02 Aug 2015 18:12:33
It was on one of the news sites.
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KimPhilby
02 Aug 2015 18:19:26
A Mr Simon Moores, pilot who regularly uses the same airport says the plane would have had safety features to prevent such a crash.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, it appears to be a deliberate plane take down.
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Discussion #9296Talk Sense

01 Aug 2015 22:24:51
police investigating another charge of ken clarke with a 14 year old boy, this could snowball.

 

{Ed033's Note - wow, how scared must any mp be now, if ken clarke does get questioned. i wonder if tony blair is starting to think he may end up in the International Criminal Court in The Hague for war crimes.
Supasub
01 Aug 2015 23:07:10
Agree with both points. Also if I was a family member of Dr. Kelly "who committed suicide" I would have an utmost hatred towards Blair. I cannot begin to think what they might feel towards him.
{Ed001's Note - I personally have a severe dislike of the man, so I can only imagine their feelings towards him must border on pathological hatred.}
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frankyscouser
02 Aug 2015 00:14:01
i am shocked that clark is in the news again ,but the ben fellows court case and the fact he got found not guilty could have gave other people confidence to force the issue, I am guessing there is more than the 14 year old boy reported and it could be like the jimmy saville effect were many people come forward now, this is not going away and they are putting out fires in 1 place and another starts somewhere else, as for blair he's running scared and its no coiecedence he went public on not wanting jeremy corbyn as the next leader, the main reason is corbyn called him out in public about the illegal war in iraq and if he has power of the labour party he will force the establishments hands in the house of commons and force the chillcot report to come out,the other three are blairites and it would be to emmbarrasing .
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KimPhilby
02 Aug 2015 14:40:36
How long till it goes further up the chain, to a certain family?
{Ed033's Note - that would be truly astounding and would be the sign that they're ready to take out/remove royalty as well.
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KimPhilby
02 Aug 2015 18:13:12
Well royalty have gone before.
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frankyscouser
02 Aug 2015 20:28:57
the truth is the only thing keeping the monarchy in place is the media, that is why I was genuine shocked with the nazi footage being shown also phillip stuff, once the media turn you will see their downfall .
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Discussion #5127Talk Sense

01 Aug 2015 13:57:23
{Ed033's Note - Retired state trooper says he has given Bigfoot creatures food on a regular basis since 2009 and they come as close as 20 feet within him.

http://goo.gl/sgaaZH

 

frankyscouser
03 Aug 2015 02:01:42
its too conflicting the story for me , he's anonymous but goes public on the sightings and the area but chooses not to get any evidence , why go public in the first place?
for the record I do believe that there are bigfoots/yetis but human nature would make us take a picture or video not brag about it and say he is not interested in them ,they just follow him, I just find it strange he's reasoning .
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Discussion #5126Talk Sense

01 Aug 2015 13:22:57
{Ed033's Note - 1956 government UFO Documentary entitled, the True Story of Flying Saucers. This may have been a genuine attempt to prepare people for disclosure at the time. What do you think?

 

frankyscouser
01 Aug 2015 17:16:09
done a check and al chop was real. would be unheard of now, a guy who was an insider in the pentagon and would be able to give details about his findings made into a documentary. it may have been to prepare people about we are not alone. always thought the time was not right around that time with most of the world coming out of a war and I can not see it in the near future, unless they want to be seen.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, it's difficult to see Disclosure coming anytime soon but they have been preparing us since the 1950s for a possible Disclosure at some point.
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KimPhilby
01 Aug 2015 18:18:38
I'd imagine they have reems of data in the pentagon, Langley and wherever the fbi keep their records. They've been building upto to something.
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Discussion #9295Talk Sense

30 Jul 2015 15:24:03
mentioned ben fellows a few times as he accussed top tory and bilderberg mp kenneth clark of groping him a few years back when at the time he was 18 0r 19 but looked like a 15 year old kid, anyway he got in touch with the police and wanted to press charges. after a few years nothing happened and he was getting threats and had to leave the country. police arrested him on the charges of preventing the course of justice, and 15 minutes ago he was found not guilty. so if he's not guilty were does that leave mr clark?

mps are scurrying around like rats , i am hoping the msm report this because with the pedo scandal in parliament this is only going to get bigger.

 

{Ed033's Note - There are mps and 'special' mps such as Tony Blair. The question is whether Mr. Clark (who was or is on the 'steering' committee of the Bilderbergers is high enough up the ladder. Even if he gets questioned by police and is released, that to me would be a sign that you now have to be way higher up than you used to be to get away with stuff now.
frankyscouser
30 Jul 2015 19:30:40
to be honest it will be near impossible to get him charged. there was a recording as he was undercover but once that was known a certain david cameron was working in the private sector and was involved when they bought carlton tv where the tv show was going to air. so that tape is destroyed and I can not see fellows taking him to court as it would be very hard to prove but in light of the other high profile politicians skeletons this has left clark with the eyes of the world watching him more closely now.
{Ed033's Note - it looks like it won't go any further.
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TTTS
31 Jul 2015 10:31:28
Seems like a very senior citizen and famous celebrity from a not so strictly game show host background is also mentioned by fellows, surprised he wasn't mentioned before. Strangely enough has he featured on the Queens honour list like the rest of the exposed.
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Discussion #5125Talk Sense

30 Jul 2015 13:34:24
{Ed033's Note - Michael Of Bernicia interviewed on the Vinny Eastwood show on various topics

 

frankyscouser
01 Aug 2015 12:07:58
just watched this; fascinating man and story.
like 9/11 it was my real awakening even though I always knew something was not right, but to find out what that lady he was in contact with would have blew my head and I am not sure how I would have coped. I have never heard that story and would love to know if this lady is still alive.

A few topics stood out, wifi in schools to mess around with fertility to drop the population and the myth that the population is too big.

mi5 at the bbc, also the trolls on twitter who accuse you of either being racist or anti semitic because of your views are agents or paid by agents. he really is a fascinating man and enjoyed his journey.

On a side note, I think vinny eastwood and michael were on different wavelengths throughout the interview. it could have been the time delay but once michael told the story of the bilderberg woman, I would have asked a lot more questions about the whole thing. great video edd.
{Ed033's Note - Glad that you enjoyed it. Yes, it would of been good to do another interview with Michael on what the bilderberg insider woman was told.
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frankyscouser
01 Aug 2015 18:28:06
tried to find out who was Kissinger's right hand man at that time so I could try to find the name of his wife. very hard to get info without guessing .

also edd since Michael has mentioned people trying to infiltrate his site or circle, have you had any gut feeling that this has happened to you on this site like wanting to be an edd or anything?

i only ask because I have got the feeling a few odd people follow me on twitter and either they retweet my tweets without ever having a convo with me, in fact they never ever put any thoughts of their own just retweets and there's people who constantly call me a racist or the tin hat insults.
{Ed033's Note - What we know is that the www is full of paid agents (including lots of students) that attempt all kind of stuff.

This site has the ability to block ip addresses from posting so that helps us against agents. Also we can delete any post we think is from any of these agents.

We thought an agent or 2 were posting about 2 years ago but they seem to have given up now; but we don't know whether they were agents. They were trying to say we were wrong about everything but came up with no real reasons why. i don't know whether they were trying to demoralise us or infiltrate this site but if they were trying to it didn't work.

You could be suffering from agents yourself. i can comprehend the tin hat insults from ignorant people who only know mainstream info but the racist insults is not ignorance imo, it's something else. It could be the devastating political correctness brainwashing.

i think when artificial intelligence appears, then they won't need agents, they can just bombard everyone they don't like with computer artificial intelligence posts. And drown the www with their mainstream computer generated artificial intelligence articles.
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frankyscouser
01 Aug 2015 21:05:37
ahh I seem to remember the anti posts, dont get me wrong I am up for debate and have changed my mind on a few things.

funny enough 9/11 related stuff I have questioned on media are not as raw as I thought it would be, you might get the odd person calling me a fool but on the whole I think people are more than ever opened minded that the truth put out was a coverup of some type.

sandy hook on the other hand I found different, got loads of abuse etc, I get it's an emotive subject with children supposedly involved but even when you give them evidence which I have used a lot of your links they still won't listen and I doubt they even watched.

by far the worst thing you can say is anything anti zionist, omg it's like a barrage of insults anti semitic garbage they come out with, I once had a tweet by a jewish man who asked why I was anti jewish. I had to explain to him a zionist is a bit like the monarchy, we serve them, they do not serve us. he never agreed with me but he was genuine which I do not mind.

in some ways all the edds have their own take on topics on here, which is needed even edd02's.
{Ed033's Note - For those that don't know, Sandy Hook was a drill at a closed school that they turned into some sick false flag, saying 20 something children were murdered, when no one died there and there is so much evidence now. There's now pictures coming out of the Sandy Hook school showing it was run down.

Pictures of Sandy Hook school

i guess people don't know there is a difference between zionism and judaism
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frankyscouser
02 Aug 2015 00:18:55
just seen the pics , put it this way my school was on par with those pics the only differnce I went in the 1970s.
{Ed001's Note - 1970s franky? Sure you didn't mean 50s?}
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frankyscouser
02 Aug 2015 10:33:00
feels like the 50s the way my body is playing up :(
{Ed033's Note - We do have a Health Talk web site if you want to talk about it or get some possible info from Eds.
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Discussion #11836Talk Sense

29 Jul 2015 22:25:58
Just changing the subject completely and maybe not a conspiracy (although I can't understand why there isn't more thorough proof to this day). My wife and I own and run a couple of shops and had a horrendous day today regarding the general running of them in regard to employees/staff. I made a passing comment today saying "I wonder if it's around a full moon time". I've just looked out and it is. Given that our bodies are made up of around 80% fluid/water, the chemical balance of the body must be affected in the same way tides/sea levels are. It's scientifically logical imo and I don't understand why this sort of subject isn't more ingrained through general studies that it has an affect on humans. My grandfather was always accused of strange behaviour around full moon and I now can see why. Some sort of lunar affect? Maybe something that's intentionally avoided from receiving any substantial research of any note.

 

KimPhilby
29 Jul 2015 23:13:12
Isn't that part of the etymology of the word lunatic? Luna tic.
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frankyscouser
30 Jul 2015 00:10:18
never ever thought of it that way,sort of makes sense.
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rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
01 Aug 2015 12:23:06
we're probably all affected by the full moon a little bit, but it is recognised that some people are noticeably affected by the full moon.
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Discussion #11960Talk Sense

29 Jul 2015 11:23:44
Scientists can now remotely control mice with an implant into its Brain. We normally here about these things 10-20 years after they happen. How advanced is this, is there remotely controlled universal soldiers out there already?

 

{Ed033's Note - there probably is all kinds of remotely controlled human slaves and the worry would be when they decide to make everyone at birth a remotely controlled slave.
TTTS
29 Jul 2015 12:58:12
If and when technology gets to a stage where a compulsory vaccine is administered to all new born, within the vaccine a micro chip which lodges in brain there's really nothing that can be done. Will steam roll from there.
{Ed033's Note - That is a frightful thought but they must be drooling over the day that starts.
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KimPhilby
29 Jul 2015 13:55:34
Maybe that's why there's been all these epidemics, bird fly, sars, ebola, etc put enough out there to make the case for compulsory vaccines.
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Discussion #9689Talk Sense

28 Jul 2015 16:29:07
hey eds and guys. anyone has anything to say / share on any if the stuff going on with the prime minister & the country itself, Malaysia?

so many things have been going on here starting with the mh370. were being mentioned on bbc, wsj and many other international media. wonder if its just a case of greedy politicians or is there more to it?

it feels like the only difference between us and north korea is that we don't worship our prime minister

 

Jase
29 Jul 2015 13:08:25
Malaysia held a court which found Bush and Blair guilty of war crimes, and have been pressing the Hague to do something about it (which they have thus far refused to do). Richard D. Hall has a great video about it on, Rich Planet

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aMlp93kldu8
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