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12 May 2014 12:49Discussion #9121Talk Sense

12 May 2014 13:47:37
yes I think alternative 3 was based on real events and its still prob happening now.

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11 May 2014 11:47Discussion #9120Talk Sense

11 May 2014 12:46:07
ukip are simply a diversionary tactic, let's look at ukip the main people like farage and his other cronies ARE TORIES, they and in fact most of the tory party want out of Europe so that's how come ukip came together.

i have family and certain friends who would vote for ukip, they are the ones who believe all that propaganda BS but they do not understand the divide and conquer agenda, for me ukip are like katie hopkins, they are getting airtime for a reason, to stir up s**t and make the other parties seem like a caring alternative, when in reality they are all the same, so ukip are far from stupid.

Not Registered11 May 2014 12:39

11 May 2014 13:29:16
The one thing I don't understand is that UKIP are more likely to get votes from anti euro tory voters so in terms of the general election would this not work against Cameron as he would be losing votes and maybe even seats which would cost him the election.

Or is there some sort of deal in the pipeline? I think it was Ed Balls in the last election who only retained his seat by a 100 votes and UKIP had taken off the tories a similar number of votes.

I can see the point in setting up a patsy party to try and influence the debate. Its like that film I watched the over but on a bigger scale. But not one that could harm your own electoral chances. I think in the next 12 months there will be some sort of deal between Cameron and Farage to stop UKIP from taking votes from the tories.

Kim Philby

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HERBIE11 May 2014 13:22

Yes they were tories in the early 90's.
Farage left in 1992 because Major signed the Treaty on EU, something Farage was and still is very much against, Speroni left in 1993 that's over 20 years ago Franky, I can't see this been a "diversionary tactic".
All politicians are currupt in so many ways but if UKIP want to get Britain out of of the EU and give us our identity back then call me a fool but I'm all for that.

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HERBIE11 May 2014 13:53

Oops miswrote that. Meant to put he left to work with Speroni in 93.

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frankyscouser11 May 2014 19:26

They were Tories? so that means that they do not have Tories values now? the only thing that Tories and ukip disagree with is Europe, herbie our identity went when we sold up and privatized everything in the late 70s onward s , let's be clear ukip will not have a sniff at being elected thankfully and even if they did they would still try to sell the nhs and tax us all like there counterparts.

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Not Registered12 May 2014 02:12

Never mind chaps, when we vote yes in september the tory party and ukip are all yours

roddy

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11 May 2014 05:46Discussion #10652Talk Sense

11 May 2014 06:44:47
good informative documentary about the real reasons that 911 had to happen for the neo cons of america

http://vimeo.com/6215671

Not Registered13 May 2014 23:37

Thanks anon, it was excellent.

Ryan.

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11 May 2014 00:54Discussion #9119Talk Sense

11 May 2014 01:09:47
not a conspiracy but more so a fact, watched a comedy show before and it played funny clips and disturbing audio,
first audio was a mum who actually phoned the police because her ten year old daughter would not get a shower, there response was to actually come out and taser her.

the next audio was another mother who rang the police and said her young daughter was not obeying her and she could not control her because she is the same size as her, police officers reply to the mum was do you want us to shoot her?

i know america has been labeled a police state for a good few years now but the guys who are supposedly protecting us are genuine psychopaths. right need sleep adios amigos.

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10 May 2014 16:34Discussion #9118Talk Sense

10 May 2014 17:27:00
sorry do not know enough of the poll question to comment.

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10 May 2014 05:14Discussion #9925Talk Sense

10 May 2014 06:09:31
Hey, I only just saw this today though it says incident is in march 2014, is this a fake or have any of you seen it before?

ufo attacks taliban camp
http://youtu.be/YQWqiI0jlQc

{Ed033's Note - Looks like it could easily be video of a real black budget military plane.

Project Camelot interview with Michael Schratt on black budget planes. Part 1 of 2

Not Registered10 May 2014 10:07

Great find Mr E, though as you say it could have been faked.

Assuming it is not, I'd have to agree with ed033, that this is one of the purported black budget project's AVs.
If the establishment actually has this type of technology, which I believe they do, they would only really be able to use them in cases where witnesses are scarce.
The question that arises after watching the video is, why would an anti-gravitic AV rely on conventional weapons technology?

Perhaps they run them fully equipped in space and with conventional weapons in remote areas with minimal surveillance hazards.
zari

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Mr E10 May 2014 12:09

You can see flashes of light as it fires but I couldn't see any projectiles. What ever the weapon it is very effective. Thanks for the link ed33

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Not Registered10 May 2014 13:03

It's very impressive to watch but looks fake to me. If you're dropping that kind of ordnance you're not going to hover at low altitude near the target area.

Ryan.

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Not Registered10 May 2014 13:09

Strange how the video is not zoomed in when it's firing? Whatever it is the marines filming it have clearly seen it before it's not much of a surprise to them.

RM8

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Khakipillowslip10 May 2014 13:37

Guys, the video from Section51 is fake.

Here's the original footage, from 2009. It's a JDAM strike.

youtube.com/watch?v=kzlSSmRx8Rc

bit.ly/1mMgKoe

KPS

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10 May 2014 03:30Discussion #10651Talk Sense

09 May 2014 23:00:24
Not sure how relevant this may be but I think the topics of fracking and big business have popped up before. Both are in the film Promised Land. Entertaining look at the methods used by big business. Some of you may find it interesting.

Kim Philby

Not Registered10 May 2014 04:57

I know someone very influential in one of the major oil companies. Through fracking they've just found enough gas to supply America for the next 100 years. A station which was developed in the US to import gas is about to be converted to a station which will export. I can't really say much more for obvious reasons.

This man has told me many an interesting thing about things ranging from Iraq and the oil wars currently taking place, to how the men we refer to as the Illuminati access and exchange wealth. Don't know how much I can repeat though.

Melbourne CFC

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frankyscouser10 May 2014 10:30

Melbourne mate spill the beans.

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Not Registered10 May 2014 14:31

Haha I'm sorry Frankie I really can't say much especially without his permission.

I can tell you about a conversation we had a month or so ago. As he holds a very influential position in a very influential company, I asked him about what "conspiracy theorists" call theiIlluminati, and asked what value he put on the Forbes rich list. After laughing for a good few minutes he told me to ignore every name in it. He has spent a lot of time in the UAE and assured me the majority of the worlds richest men are situated here. He told me how he always needs to be careful paying compliments to these men as one time he made a remark about some rare Ferrari in a sheiks garage. Next thing he knew he was thrown the keys and told it was his, something he couldn't accept due to his position.

I pushed him on names such as Rockefeller and Rothchilds and he said he'd tell me how one such family continues to generate wealth, and how this wealth was shared and transferred amongst the families without raising suspicion. He didn't mention names, but said one family, an american family owns and operates a travel agency, but it is not in their name, obviously. This family offers luxury travel packages for a minimum of 500k. They operate no differently then any other travel agency, taking care of flights and accommodation. The only difference is the fee charged. They use personal jets and personal properties and charge excuberate fees for the privilege. He said most of these vacations that are booked and paid for rarely go ahead, but the money always gets paid. Not the most exciting snippet of information, I know, but as I said, I really can't say much on a forum like this without his go ahead.

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered10 May 2014 14:40

Interesting stuff Mel. Where would they export to I wonder? Will check out Promised Land KP, thanks.

For anyone who hasn't seen Gasland film, it's well worth a look.

http://youtu.be/96AEzQYangE

Ryan.

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frankyscouser10 May 2014 15:40

I have been saying for some time the Rockefeller/Rothschild are to obvious, if you can get any info mate post it, I remember a post you wrote a few months ago about feeling despondent and powerless, well it could be one of those eureka moments what you post, but I do understand your position.

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09 May 2014 16:23Discussion #10650Talk Sense

09 May 2014 17:11:52
{Ed033's Note - Dark Skies TV Series from 1996 - The Awakening Part 1 & 2 of about 20

Really good conspiracy series from 1996 where the writers of the series (Bryce Zabel, Brent V. Friedman) attempt to portray what possibly really happened in the 1960s through historical events. They were going to write more episodes for the 1970s to the present but didn't receive further funding.

frankyscouser10 May 2014 15:40

Been watch 3 episodes today edd, definitely think it was on tv like sky a few years back, really good show, been watching a few beatles interviews all of them lennon/macca/harrison have all said the world is run by psychopaths.

this subject is complex, it would make sense that if a alien used our leaders as a host and basically poison us/chemtrails gmo food/dumb us down/ wars /killing us.

plus destroying the earth does not help anyone even the chosen few, sort of reminds me of that sci fi movie the facility, were they infuriate a high school, could the same be said of the whitehouse?

{Ed001's Note - it was on terrestial TV franky, I watched it when it was first shown in the UK and I didn't have satellite or cable then.}

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frankyscouser10 May 2014 16:08

How long ago was it it m8? can not of been the main channels, got to have been bbc2?

{Ed001's Note - I think it was Channel 4 back in the late 90s. Whichever channel used to show X-Files, they took it to cash in on X-Files success if I remember rightly.}

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frankyscouser10 May 2014 16:34

Bbc2 broadcasted the x files m8, I remember the odd episode, can not remember that one posted on here, no footy today, wife in work think its feet up and watching a load of them.

{Ed001's Note - I meant to say whichever channel didn't take X-Files doh! I am pretty sure X-Files was a big success and the other 'minority' channel took Dark Skies hoping to cash in. Not sure that it matters like though, but it was defo on terrestial or I would never have seen it.}

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Not Registered11 May 2014 12:22

11 May 2014 13:02:55
Pretty sure it was channel 4. They have an awful track record of taking American shows and scheduling them at stupid times.

Of course psychopaths run things. They tend to be more driven, like to work long and hard, can be highly intelligent and have no qualms about making ruthless decisions that normal people back away from. Take Stalin for example. Total lunatic but worked 18 hour days and dragged Russian industry into the 20th Century catching up with the West but at a massive human cost.

Or your Winston Churchill who had mental health issues around depression but kept Britain going when other leaders may have folded.

Nixon was one of the ablest American presidents but destroyed by his own paranoia. Him and Churchill most likely were not psychopaths but it is interesting how many world leaders have had mental health issues.

Kim Philby

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09 May 2014 14:51Discussion #10649Talk Sense

09 May 2014 15:49:49
{Ed033's Note - The dire consequences of GeoEngineering - video presentation by Dane Wigington

frankyscouser09 May 2014 18:33

Scary ****, not my type of subject but it all leads to the same entities that rule this world.

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Not Registered10 May 2014 10:07

I watched this a couple of weeks ago. It was a real learning curve for me. I must confess I was a chemtrails sceptic until quite recently. It's so hard to get your head around the idea initially, I think by the time the public at large realise what is happening it will be too late.

Ryan.

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09 May 2014 12:37Discussion #9117Talk Sense

09 May 2014 12:56:10
i have never heard that theory before about tesla edd so I can not answer, I have been busy these last few weeks so when I get time I will reply to some of the topics.

{Ed033's Note - I guess that when an air explosion takes place just above a forest in 1908 in one of the remotest parts of the world, what's the likelihood that it was planned to take place there, where few people would notice.

Another bizarre theory that was featured in Nexus magazine years ago about the Tunguska explosion is that long ago, an ET group placed a device underground in 2 or 3 remote places around the Earth that could detect and destroy (using energy beams), incoming bolides to prevent catastrophes caused by impacts like the alleged, K-T event.

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08 May 2014 15:01Discussion #10648Talk Sense

08 May 2014 13:26:14
To the people who are voting that they don't think a cruise missile hit the pentagon on 9/11, I'm just curious to know what you think hit it?

Just for the record I think it was a missile of some sort. Not flight 77 imo.

Ryan.

frankyscouser08 May 2014 15:38

Deffo agree it was a missile, in a tourist area attraction like the Pentagon not one plane sighting.

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Not Registered08 May 2014 18:04

Hey guys not been around for a while. I like this daily poll idea Eds, good conversation starter.

100% believe it was a missile of some sort though my technical knowledge is limited so i'm not sure what type specifically. unthinkable that a hijacked plane could even get into washingtons airspace, let alone allowed to hit the pentagon, let alone without credible sightings of said plane!

I think its in the 'new pearl harbour' film that they analyse the 2 sets of footage from the pentagon and it seems to show one frame in particular where the plane would be directly visible in one of the cameras, yet it is not, leading to the conclusion that the footage has been doctored so as not to show what is actually a missile or similar.

Harold

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, that was the idea behind it, the daily poll I mean. Taken a bit of effort to get it on all our sites, but it does seem to work, when I can come up with the right questions anyway!}

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Not Registered08 May 2014 18:04

08 May 2014 18:25:51
The hole in the walls was too small, there was a lack of plane wreckage (no wings?) and all the cctv footage was seized.

If that was a passenger airliner my name is Kim!

Kim Philby

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frankyscouser08 May 2014 20:36

Totally agree Vladimir.

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Not Registered08 May 2014 21:26

08 May 2014 22:09:08
Not even close, but my big brother is Vladimir.

IIRC didn't the FBI seize all the surrounding cctv footage?

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07 May 2014 19:14Discussion #9116Talk Sense

07 May 2014 20:12:47
Rendlesham Forest Incident, yes by reading and watching interviews from years ago I would say yes.

Khakipillowslip08 May 2014 08:11

I've seen this mentioned so many times with so many interviews with the American personnel. They're always consistent. Makes me think one of two things; they're so well documented, as you'd expect service personnel to be, that they're totally genuine, or that they're so well documented, that they're scripted. I can't think of a single reason why they'd want to script this for this kind of base in the UK though tbh.

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