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Discussion #9581Talk Sense

27 Jan 2014 14:27:03
Hi guys not sure if its a conspiracy or even if anyone here has heard about it but Jamaican dancehall artist Vybz Kartel (Adidja Palmer) is on trial for murder at the moment. He has been in prison awaiting trial for something like 2 years and the whole trial seems like a shambles.
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Jack!

 

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Its seems abit strange to me during court the played some CDs with vibz and co having conversations but this evodance has only just come to light.

in the US and UK this evodance would have been thrown out but they have kept it.

i think vibz has peed off teh wrong there person.
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Discussion #1994Talk Sense

25 Jan 2014 13:52:41
With the BBC and others reporting withdrawal restrictions for customers of HSBC, do we think that we are heading for another global financial meltdown soon?

http://iacknowledge.net/hsbc-bank-on-verge-of-collapse-second-major-banking-crash-imminent/

 

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I wonder how people interpret the term "financial meltdown". Did our resource deposits run out? Are we using more resources than those available? Do we lack something we cannot create?
We have the know how to revolutionize production and consumption processes so that they are perpetually sustainable. We choose not to do so. It is concepts such as money that box our minds and keep us oblivious to the real problems of society and their solutions.
If people require further humiliation before beginning to contemplate the predicament we are in, then so be it.
Zari
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Whilst I agree, we cannot escape the fact that what we term as money is simply debt created out of thin air to facilitate a profit to be earned by a corporation.
Once this was stopped being backed by gold, it became obvious that this level of debt would soon become unsustainable.
It's clear, from the article, that the financial institutions have engineered a debt from nothing that is 10 times more that the planet's combined GDP. This is to the detriment of the people on this planet who are tasked with trying to reduce this and to the empowerment of the minority who reap the rewards of such actions. It matters not to this minority how we think of this debt as a society, or how we can revolutionize this situation globally. Until the balance of power changes, until people wake up, the reality of this has to be faced.
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Sorry forgot to add the read the bit about Argentina!

Jonty
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I posted the below before which you may find interesting

http://info.moneyweek.com/urgent-bulletins/the-end-of-britain

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In response to that link I suggest watching this:
Silent weapons for quite wars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_38tsQ4p0I

It was posted before on this page but for those that didn't get to watch it, it is very informative and eye opening.
Zari
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Discussion #1993Talk Sense

25 Jan 2014 11:43:26
Global march against chemtrails and geoengineering today:

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/global-march-against-chemtrails-and-geoengineering-january-25-2014-event-listings/

Zari

 

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Discussion #4937Talk Sense

25 Jan 2014 00:22:15
{Ed033's Note - Link Between Cancer-causing monkey viruses, Polio vaccines, Lee Harvey Oswald [and other people involved in the the JFK‬ Assassination] and emerging global epidemics.

Shorter Alex Jones video interview with Ed Haslam about his book, 'Dr. Mary's Monkey'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWrtTLrLTww

Longer radio interview with Ed Haslam on C2C AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1zlm_MWyCs

 

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Some great information in these links Ed033. As always thank you for sharing.
The information concerning Oswald provide a very different aspect as to his assignments and why he was framed. Very interesting.
If nothing up to now has convinced people as to why they should refuse all vaccinations for themselves and their families, this should.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - ok, great
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frankyscouser
Its a tough one if you have kids and your wife is adamant the child is getting the jabs, personally if I could turn back time my 3 daughters would not have been vaccinated and my mum would have not took the flu jabs, obviously the mrs thinks I am over exaggerating and to be honest 15 years ago I would have agreed with her, this is a shout out to the younger members to this site who have awakened and can smell the bs, its all about spreading the word.
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Guys, the area of vaccinations is not one I have looked into yet. I will look at these links when I get a chance.

Can anybody tell me are there any alternatives to having the vaccinations? Going private? Taking tablets? Or would your advice be more that they are totally unnecessary?

Thanks in advance,
Harold
P. s. Will do my own research asap but this question always occurred to me when this issue arises
{Ed001's Note - they are totally unnecessary.}
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frankyscouser
H your body has its own immune system, putting toxins of a jab only lowers your immune system, its all spin to make you feel you are putting yourself/loved ones at risk, native tribes all over the world used mother nature to heal themselves but 99% have been massacred.
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Thanks Ed001 and Franky. Love this site and he input of many of the poster's is very useful to me.

H
{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, there is a real culture of fear surrounding vaccines. Now we are given them for measles, I mean for heaven's sake! When I was a kid, if someone else got the measles all the local kids would be forced to spend time with them to try and catch it. There is absolutely no need to vaccinate against it.}
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Discussion #10556Talk Sense

23 Jan 2014 08:43:34
Ed033, what do you make of 'The Blue Planet Project'?

Think its legitimate or not?

Cheers for any insight

Melbourne CFC

 

{Ed033's Note - I wouldn't know. We hear that this sort of work is carried out under compartmentalisation. What this would suggest is that one single scientist got to see more than expected if there is compartmentalisation and then this scientist decided to let the info out even though they would have signed some kind of secrecy document and even though they were scheduled to be terminated when they were found out that they had released info, they still managed to escape and stay hidden?

It sounds exactly like a good thrilling fictional account/story based on the rumours we hear about ET/Aliens, that's been made into a book.
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Thanks for the response. Insightful as always

Melbourne CFC
{Ed033's Note - ok, thank you
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Discussion #10555Talk Sense

22 Jan 2014 17:20:22
What do you all make of the controversy regarding Nicolas Anelka's 'quenelle' gesture?

I saw a video where Roger Cukierman (head of Jewish organisation CRIF) described it as seeming to be anti-establishment rather than anti-semitic.

It will be interesting to see how the FA charge plays out, and if they take into account the comments of people such as Cukierman.

Ryan.

 

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It seems like the FA has been pressured into taking action, despite a lot of people not really seeming to give a toss about it. Yes I have seen some complaining about it, but I've seen just as many saying the same as above.
{Ed001's Note - it is just a chance for them to show they are actually doing something, without actually doing anything.}
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Talk about freedom of expression! If he gets something like an 8-10 game ban (which has been muted) that's absolutely crazy in my mind and I would be angry if I was him. To be fair I knew very little about the 'quenelle' gesture and it's history prior to last week, so will gladly be educated if my comments are way off the mark.

Harold
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If he does get banned for that many games he will retire he already nearly retired until Clarke talked him out of it.
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frankyscouser
Is it just me that everyone goes ott when it is anything related to Israel /holocaust, now I will explain if anelka admitted he is no Jewish lover etc then fine ban him and from what I have read it's not a Nazi salute it's open to debate whether it's a insult or not, listen the amount if stick black players and Irish players have took from players and fans with nothing or a token fine is bewildering, it seems any other atrocities that have happened in the past is forgotten about but to me certain outlets are constantly looking for anything holocaust related, I will state I thought what Nazis done to normal Jewish people horrendous and disgusting but at the same time I do see anelka as a Nazi stormtrooper
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I don't think many people would have taken much notice without someone pointing it out. It's not a fort balling issue as far as I'm concerned. He should maybe be fined and that's it as far as I'm concerned. What about when players draw the cross when they step into the pitch or score? What if that offends me?
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Discussion #10554Talk Sense

21 Jan 2014 23:10:10
He is legit, it's just the elite don't want it out so they disproved his claims.

DIG

This is why so many people think conspiracy theorists have foil hats and live in a basement.

 

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Sorry, this was a response about Superhumans.
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Hey anon, did you know that the soviet union, nazi germany and usa all devoted large amounts of resources on studying the paranormal phenomena and superhuman abilities?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win or die.
Either way, it is preferable to live one our as a free man than 40 years as a slave.
Zari
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22 Jan 2014 13:16:53
Indeed they did, the Nazi research was the basis of American and Soviet programs.

Kim Philby
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Discussion #9626Talk Sense

21 Jan 2014 19:49:53
Hi all, first time poster on this site.

I have this feeling (which I've had for years) that the people are growing increasingly tired of the lies being fed to them by the government and that action will soon be taken in an attempt to reclaim power from the suits in parliament.

My question to you lot is, does anyone else have this feeling? and, if so, how do you think is the best way to regain control and ensure that this corrupt way of governing does not happen again in the future?

thanks

 

BigRed
A lot of my friends who think I am a bit nuts when it comes to this feel this way (as do I) when you keep being pushed and pushed and laughed at its a matter of not if but when we push back.
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Unfortunately I see a lot of people still not 'awake' and in many cases do not even want to be awoken. Some people have a hard time making the link between the conditions we find ourselves living in, and the people who have caused the situation. Whilst this remains the case i'm afraid I don't hold out too much hope, which is sad.

On a brighter note, there certainly seems to be an increase in the number of people searching for truth, which can only be a good thing in the long run. I just don't see major, beneficial changes coming any time soon.

Harold
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Welcome jamparia.
People all over the world are demanding justice, are a lot more inquisitive and are beginning to exhibit defiance towards authority figures. All are signs of progress, let's hope it escalates.

Personally, I do not think any official government is in control. They are manipulated figure heads, obeying commands in hope of their promised piece of the pie (breadcrumbs in reality). Ed033 wrote a detailed post on this subject further down the page that is well worth a read.

In regards to regaining control, the short term action I would advocate would be disobedience. The ones attempting to control we the people are so few in numbers compared to us, that disobedience would collapse the necessary organization required for control.
A combination of disobedience on an individual level (public voicing of concern, informing the government that we withhold all our rights in writing etc. ) and on a collective level (towns not paying their electric bills, stopping property foreclosures etc. ) would be the most effective.
Disobedience and imagination are a great mixture so there are no limits to the forms it could take.

The long term action I would advocate (Harold reminded me of this the other day) would be education.
There is an urgent need to alter our ideas about what constitutes education and what constitutes conditioning. In its current format "education" is best described as irrelevant, unconnected and unsubstantiated information absorption. Education is learning how to think for oneself, improve ones analytical process and challenge everything established.
It is also time for self education to be recognized as on par with formal education, as some of the greatest contributions to humanity came from self educated people.

Corruption in my mind has two prerequisites to its existence: Inequality and centralization of power.
Democracy in its true form (how it was practiced in ancient Greece) guarantees decentralization of power. That is why there are no democratic countries in the world. Voting once every four years without the power to repeal is more accurately described as bemusing oligarchy.
As for inequality, I have made this particular case more than once on this site. We have the technology to ensure that every single person lives in abundance and human societies exist in balance with nature.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - Does the government recognise Magna Carta?

If so,
Under article 61 of Magna Carta 1215, we have a right to enter into "Lawful Rebellion", if we determine that we are being governed unjustly.

If not,
We have a fundamental, inherent, unalienable, natural right of self defence, to defend ourselves from their attack on us.
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Hey Ed033, thank you. Already filed in my legal defense notepad for future use. From what I gather one could make the claim that article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215 is non-revocable.
It reads:
"And we shall procure nothing from any one, either personally or indirectly, whereby any part of these concessions and liberties might be revoked or diminished; and if any such thing has been procured, let it be void and null, and we shall never make use of it ourselves or through someone else. "
For anyone interested this would also apply to the commonwealth.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - definitely, you can make that claim
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Discussion #4936Talk Sense

20 Jan 2014 23:52:25
{Ed033's Note - Interesting discussion between William Henry and Dr. Mark Gray about the numerology, prophesy and symbolism of 9/11 and the 9/11 memorial architecture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ciNrglVQw

 

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Thanks for sharing, ed33. Found it very interesting and learnt a lot about symbolism. How ironic, all the links to Isaac Newton, when his laws of physics provide some of the best evidence/proof to disprove the official story.

Harold
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Thank you Ed033 for another great link.
In connection to the last link you provided, I am starting to think that monument locations are not random and that subtle energy is being used against us.
Pea if you have not watched this I recommend it. The speakers reveal plenty about saturnian worship. Take their monuments down and perhaps that would put an end to the machine.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - For everyone who doesn't know this, apparently, the writers of the Nag Hammadi texts say that around a couple of thousand BC ,an ET group came here called the Archons and because they were jealous of us, they started to mess this world up by messing with people's minds. And it's still going on today.
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Ed033, I would greatly appreciate your opinion on this, but would understand if you could not share it.

I have seen evidence to believe there are levels higher than the financiers, a secret government. Based on further research there seems to be a level higher than that as well and in all its versions it seems to involve one or more alien species. Reptilians, saturnians, grays, nazi great whites, archons etc.

From a psychological perspective it is possible for an internal conflict arising from an inability to deal with fear, in this case brought on by the realization that fellow humans could be so impaired that they would treat their own species so inhumanly, and that we have let them carry it out this far, to project those fears externally in an alien image from the one we see ourselves as.

A fear alienation that leads to the dehumanization of those deemed responsible for its creation and an externalization of those fears.
Does that make sense?
Is there indeed some intelligent alien race that is playing us against each other?

I am confused.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - I'm confused as well, but whether there is an ET race manipulating us or not, my opinion is that we're going to continue in this negative direction and it's going to get a hell of a lot worse yet.
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Discussion #10553Talk Sense

20 Jan 2014 19:43:13
Does anyone have any thoughts on light pollution? Is it Possible that it is intentional in order to decrease any possible sightings of anything in the sky in built up urban areas?

 

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Not sure pal but the days of LED's and better light design I still cannot believe that we are running these horrid street lights that waste 80+% of the light they produce upwards (I cannot remember the source of this but did hear it)!

I am not an expert but even I would have thought by having more efficient lights would save money and more than pay for themselves in the medium term?

Jonty
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frankyscouser
Not sure where I read this but old cameras had infa red on the lense but in the 90s they stopped it! Could be nothing wrong with why they stopped it.
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They really don't need to put them so high overhead, it does seem like they are blocking our view of the sky.
Artificial light also alters the natural cycle of human life and inhibits the proper function of the pineal gland. This in turn amplifies stress and shortens lifespan among other things.
It is also detrimental to the environment as a lot of species that require darkness for either communication (fireflies) or guidance (turtles) have seen their numbers steadily dwindle.
Zari
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22 Jan 2014 16:17:20
Thanks for the responses guys! The reason I asked is that I live next to 6 tower blocks of flats with lights on top of each which are on 24/7 and when looking up it seems harder than usual to see stars. Thanks for the insight.
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Discussion #10552Talk Sense

20 Jan 2014 17:28:51
Interesting story emerging. Evidence of Snowden being FSB asset before defection. As long I have suspected.

Kim Philby

 

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Kim I have always been suspicious of snowdon, he has been all over the world without not getting caught which is a nonsense, to me the so called whistleblower has only given information out that was already in the public domain, his outburst only done thing, giving governments a legitimate reason to spy on anyone, I have read somewhere that Snowdon is a cousin of the Facebook creator zuckerberg and for the record I think Facebook is a cia creation, Bradley manning for me is a true whistleblower, he embarrassed the USA and is now paying the price!
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Surprise, surprise!

Harold
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20 Jan 2014 20:14:36
I have always had suspicion of Snowden. Not sure of motive, ideology is no longer such a factor.

He was not caught due to excellent network of safehouses.

The worry of Langley/ Fort Meade and others was not was released publicly but what wasn't said.

Countries already spied anyway and 911 gave them the legal reason.

Manning was a security risk and should never been in such a sensitive position. 30 years ago we would have been recruiting him. Blackmail is so much better than those who do it for money. Best agents are those who work on principle. Few and far between.

Kim Philby
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As we are on the subject of establishment agents what do you think such organizations identify in people to deem them suitable for such work?

Those positions do not pay much but do offer exciting work conditions as compared to mundane jobs. They also offer a sense of inclusion into a select club that satisfies certain peoples illusion of superiority.
In my opinion they go after people who consider themselves intelligent but are obviously not intelligent enough to realize how easily manipulated and disposable they are to those that run them.
Probably, the type of people who begin to comprehend the reach of the establishment on everyday life but with a short term memory (ego) and lack of compassion that makes them refer to those still ignorant of that fact as "sheeple".
It is easier to manipulate those already conditioned so they do go after people with principles, ethics and morality.
I see the recipe as being a mixture of insecurity and pompousness, some issues of unworthiness and a desire to prove ones self.

Disclaimer: This is not a personal attack on anyone, simply an analysis and an expression of opinion.
Zari
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What of the concept of a truth that has, does and always will exist utterly regardless of anyone's opinion of it? Must it too be converted into opinion so as to avoid offending somebody? This world where everything can be batted off as so much opinion is another symptom of what we have lost and why we are so lost and so easy to manipulate. pea
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Discussion #4935Talk Sense

19 Jan 2014 23:31:34
{Ed033's Note - Dr. Carmen Boulter - Pyramid Code Documentary Complete Series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaiGEItvTH8

 

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I have not seen all of it yet Ed033, but what a great documentary that is.
I had heard rumours of megalithic structures being employed as energetic devices but what is being presented here is an amazingly precise analysis.
As always, thank you for finding all these links for us.
Zari
{Ed033's Note - ok great, at least someone is watching the content I put links to
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Ed33, just to assure you I find this site very useful but particularly all the links you provide, to be invaluable. I often don't get round to watching them til a later date so don't have the opportunity to respond, however, i'm sure there are many thankful people for the info you provide.

Please keep it up!

Harold
{Ed033's Note - ok great, thanks
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YoungKenny
Agreed Harold. I often watch the links but don't always comment.

Please keep up your fantastic work Ed033, it really is much appreciated!
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Yes ed I watch the majority of your videos too, although I've already seen this one on netflix ;).
This is a great series though, and have been trying to convince my friends and family to watch it.
There is also a book called "secrets of the lost races" which also touches on a lot of the info in this series. Its a fascinating subject anyway.
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