19 Jan 2014 13:31:01
I am going to ask a question to everyone, do we as a species need to be governed? let's face facts we all know we are getting screwed but would you rather have it that way or a lawless society? devils advocate question!
{Ed033's Note - Before this country got took over by the corporation (with shareholders) that also took over and replaced any legal system we had and replaced any type of 'administration/government' we had, we had a lawful society.
When this corporation took over, they brought with them their version of a legal system and their version of a language called legalese and in 1666 while their agents were burning down the [rat infested/disease ridden] London to remove the people that were living there and give them a cleared location to do business (now called the City Of London) and a another cleared area they could create a new modern city in we call London, this corporation's agents in parliament declared everyone who was living here, dead and lost beyond the seas.
Now with no one living here, their legal system could perform a salvage operation on this country and all the proceeds from this salvage operation could go to the shareholders of the corporation.
This salvage operation is still going on today. Everything the government and the legal system does is to benefit the shareholders of this corporation that took over.
All what we the people owned, all the natural resources and anything we the people pay for are supposed to be held in trust by a lawful 'administration/government' for we the people's benefit. If any natural resource was to be sold, then we the people (who were born here and therefore are the beneficiaries) should be giving an equal share each of any profits.
But because this corporation's legal system/government doesn't recognise we the people, then the corporation's shareholders get the money.
Politicians and all public/civil servants/ employees(persons who work for the corporation/government) should be working for we the people but it's obviously they don't. Why not? Because they're working for the shareholders of this corporation, whether they know it or not.
So we are already living in a lawless society, we're actually living in a legal society.
If this corporation and the government that creates legislation to serve the shareholders of the corporation were to leave, we could return to a lawful society.
Hidden law history and what happened in 1666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv2YUMsG5A0
What the FUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVj5XQYAi8
It would take something monumental to go back to them times would it not edd? Only thing that springs to mind is a world wide event like a disaster and start from scratch!
{Ed033's Note - The biggest nuisance is that those people who have woken up have to live in a ridiculous slave system on a planet that's being turned into a radioactive wasteland because of the brainwashed people who can't 'wake up'
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Not going to argue there like I said it would take a worldwide event, plus it does not have to be a disaster, first contact, I mean first official contact!
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The answer to that question is likely always going to be 'yes' from the majority who believe there is always "some mob" or "that lot" who need to be governed.
The better question would be for everybody to ask of themselves "do I need to be governed?" and there lies your answer.
One of the by-products of Governance is that it creates people who don't think for themselves or take responsibility for themselves because "someone does it for them" so they "don't need to worry (think) about it". It doesn't make smart people it makes dumb people.
Personally I have been asking myself lately what have we done to end up being herded by these voids, these witless dullards and borings? Every time you vote for Legion you are giving your consent to be herded by them. pea
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Brilliant understanding of a very convoluted subject Ed033.
The psychological implications arising from the view that without a ruler people would run amok and society would collapse are something that should be taken seriously.
People have been conditioned to feel incapable to decide for themselves in regards to issues commonly portrayed as complicated. It is time we liberate ourselves from implanted dualistic paradoxes.
How about we the people decide for ourselves, maintain the benefits that being organized into a society offers and do away with illusory terms such as government.
The cosmetic changes we have been presented with, from rulers, to governance and now to government are just that. One label might be less insulting to the ego than the rest due to conditioning but they are the same.
We are not being represented by politicians as evident by the fact that their appointment is irrevocable. Additionally, by investigating the inner workings of organizations it is easy to discover that appointed officials are figureheads and their non-appointed colleagues are the ones with authority.
When we ask for a better government is akin to asking for a considerate ruler. Something justly described as a ludicrous notion.
Zari
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I think that our 'need' for a government reveals an innate lack of faith in our own abilities to govern ourselves on a personal level.
We distrust so others so much that the idea that we could simply trust them to not commit immoral actions is long lost.
Instead, we decided to nominate certain figures in society to a status higher than our own in the hopes that we live a safe, equal life.
Obviously, this makes us extremely vulnerable to corruption from within those who have been elected to keep the equilibrium, which is sadly what we are seeing across the world in the goverments and police force abuses.
Exotiva.
{Ed001's Note - actually it originates in the desire of the ordinary person just wanting to live their life, tend crops, look after animals etc, rather than spend their time looking after the minutiae of governing a larger whole. That is why, as hamlets grew into villages, they created the elders, those too old or weak to work the fields etc, that had the time to make the decisions. Then, as villages grow into towns, they were no longer enough to run everything, so it gradually evolved into the government systems we use now. It was more about trust, than a lack of trust, as you are trusting that the person appointed is going to do what is right for you.}
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19 Jan 2014 11:24:29
Anyone see this in the Telegraph a few days ago?
A couple of interesting admissions near the bottom, one being that there's one UFO detected by air traffic controllers every month.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/10551201/Jet-in-near-miss-with-UFO.html
These types of sightings don't make much sense.
With publicly available technology (pc & internet connection) one can track the position of every commercial airplane around the world. Why would a ufo fly into their path if whoever is piloting it did not wish to be spotted?
Concerning air traffic control, the US military has had stealth aircraft for a while. Are we to believe that someone with enough knowledge to invent an anti-gravitic propulsion system does not know how to manipulate simple electromagnetic waves?
Zari
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He is pic, and he is not going to go on the record and report it unless he is certain about what he saw. I wouldn't be too inclined to dismiss it just because I don't understand what he saw.
Ryan.
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Ryan, I am not dismissing the claim that a ufo was sighted. I am rather wondering as to what purpose, if any, such sightings serve.
If whoever is piloting the ufo wishes to make their presence known then there are better ways of achieving that.
They do not seem to wish to remain hidden as they certainly have the technology to do so but do not use it.
Perhaps they have no interest in us and are simply performing their tasks without care of implications.
I am trying to make sense of their agenda and sharing my puzzlement with everyone in hope of a better idea.
Zari
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Zari your comments do usually come across as somebody who has all the answers,, answers to questions that remain unanswered
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Maybe it was that kid from Flight of the Navigator ;)
Ryan.
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18 Jan 2014 22:38:09
Just watching Stan Lee's superhumans and this guy can move wood metals a bit like dynamo but they had a scientist who hooked him to a ecg and other tech stuff, the scientists was blown away when he seen what he done, he checked the ecg and everything was normal, then they checked the gammer waves in his brain and they were double the amount of a person having a seizure, I have epilepsy and trust me on this after having a fit it wipes me out for at least a day, I got told by my specialist that when people have a fit it is like a massive electricity discharge and this guy doubles the amount if energy and controls it is really amazing, it proves the brain is untapped mystery only a few know about.
19 Jan 2014 01:05:14
Is he relation of Bruce Lee? He superhuman fighter.
Kim Philby
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I posted about him a month ago, I was also bemused and impressed but after doing more research I found out that the guy is a fraud and stan lees superhumans isn't as legit as it seems.
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He is legit, it's just the elite don't want it out so they disproved his claims.
DIG
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17 Jan 2014 21:14:59
Ukraine goverment has passed an anti protest law and a law agaist government "slander". Is ukraine the first country off many. Be careful guys, soon, disagreeing with a member of parliament will be a one way ticket to the cop shop.
Gaz from wales
This country they sue but you are right it will be the next-generation that they will try to do this.
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True, True Franky. let's hope that when the time comes the next generation has the fight in them to stand up to this.
Can I also say, I have been reading this site for the last 2-3 years and think it's great, thanks to all the eds for giving us a place to go to express our views and learn from other like minded individuals.
On our own we are weak but together we can achieve the impossible.
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To true mate.
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Do you mean the first country not considered as part of the 3rd world by westerners?
I am pretty sure that half North African and West Asian countries already have a ban on protests and routinely imprison people who disagree with establishment policies, a lot of them journalists.
Also, expecting the next generation to clean up our mess isn't fair to them.
On a different note, sometime ago I said that there are no anti-establishment militant groups currently active on the planet. As it turns out, I was wrong. The IMF's representative in Afghanistan, Wabel Abdallah, was killed yesterday along with 13 other foreigners and 3 Afghanis.
Zari
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18 Jan 2014 12:02:31
Rosiya, cough, pussy riot, cough, green peace, cough.
Kim Philby
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17 Jan 2014 18:58:26
Evening people,
Thanks for the replies re: dr Kelly further down, much appreciated as these types of cases are what interest me the most.
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura: The 9/11 Pentagon conspiracy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9tvrYg85qU
Please pardon my ignorance on a subject I have yet to begin researching! Seems unbelievable to me but then so did all of these subjects before I started to wake up, only recently.
Harold
17 Jan 2014 20:28:20
Good luck to you Comrade Harold. This was bold coup by someone, very big cover up operation. Lots of maskirovka involved. But they make mistake and think people are stupid. People are less accepting than before. Now everyone have internet and camera phones and are less trusting of authority. My generation too set in ways, do not question. It is to youth we must look for the future is theirs. Many questions from that day, I believe Comrade Editor Number 33 have plenty videos that help explain. Good one by lady doctor, bit technical for me but seems plausible. I recommend.
I have not been in America since but I keep contacts from the old days. Many disturbing things on the wind. These camps for example, Gulags in all but name. Dark times ahead but darkest hour is always before the dawn. Will it be our dawn or theirs?
Kim Philby
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Not sure what happened here, half my post got lost and the link is not what intended to post. Strange! Anyway, ignore the above as it makes little sense, I will attempt to repost what I intended at a later date.
Peace,
Harold
{Ed033's Note - Harold, that is the youtube video you originally posted and therefore the other half of your post never made sense
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Ok thanks ed33 for letting me know, will send the correct link in next time.
Harold
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17 Jan 2014 18:42:11
I have caught something on my Facebook account about sex education in the USA, some parent found a booklet or something about his daughters sex education, in her curriculum it is in black and white what they are teaching young kids from oral sex to grinding ffs, this is happening all over and will be the norm soon, I read last year in Germany that kids will be told how to masturbate, I am far from a prude but there is a growing trend to make kids more grown up from some of the cloths from the high street chain tthat make them look a lot older to make up now giving them the thumbs up that basically it's fine to do those things I mentioned, we know from this site the elite are run by sadistic perverts who are making these changes for what reason?
17 Jan 2014 20:12:06
Maybe they want to normalise the appearance of this in readiness for a change in the law.
Mort
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17 Jan 2014 20:15:37
Inquiry by police has cost how much but so far only celebrities have been caught, famous from tv and radio.
But only old people, has been. No current celebrities have been caught. Does this mean it no longer happens? Of course not.
Also only celebrities, no politicians or judges or lawyers or bankers. This is odd no?
Kim Philby
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Imagine a world where vanity didn't exist. Now, so many industries would be non existent or bankrupt. This I'm afraid under capitalism they need the young even as young as 6 to be educated and aware of what is what so they can sexualise them and make so much more money.
Girls as young as 8 now need make up, fake nails, fake eyelashes to name a few to impress who? They don't know. All they know is they need to look their best to be accepted
Roscojef
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I have come to the conclusion that every position of power must be either blackmailed or have a vice for children, I am talking the head of police to the prime minister!
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In 2000 years they'll write a book about it called " The Rise and Fall of Western Civilization ".
FTE
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17 Jan 2014 18:19:15
I have caught something on my Facebook account
Well you should be more careful ;)
Mort
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Ha mort it's this bleeding phone, bloody hard to write posts.
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16 Jan 2014 22:17:11
{Ed033's Note - Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars from the Electric universe Team Part 1 of 3
Part 2 of 3 of Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_T6__JDeyw
Part 3 of 3 of Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qrnsh83f4
I wonder when mainstream science is going to connect the behavior of plasma and the effects of plasma discharge as the energetic transference pathway that gives rise to the material world.
Plasma discharge on a negatively charged area creates dendrites (neurons, blood vessels etc. ). Plasma discharge on a positively charged area creates scallops (bones, skin etc. ).
If some people could rise above their insecurity erected preconceptions what a world this could be.
Zari
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16 Jan 2014 15:01:32
Hi guys, been listening to some conspiracy radio shows lately and it seems that the Planet X/Nibiru thing is rearing it's head again. I really struggle to take this issue seriously as there are a number of glaring issues with it I. e why can't we see it? I won't bore regular posters by poking holes in the theory, but can someone articulate ( a believer preferably) what it is that to them gives this theory validity? Am I missing something?
I ask this with a genuinely open mind.
Thanks
G
16 Jan 2014 17:02:30
i believe there is something out there be it nibiru or something else, if it is a brown dwarf star its very unlikely to see it unless you have infared technology, I find it weird that nearly every phone had infared years ago but most now dont, go onto you tube you can see on certain posts that imo there is something there, but at the end of the day its like everything else in life, you either believe in something or you dont. bhoywonder
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I probably shouldn't be the one answering this as I do not consider myself as a believer in regard with this subject, but I am going to have a go at it anyway.
The theory of the existence of Nibiru comes from the translations of the Sumerian cuneiform tablets found in the library of Ashurbanipal in Nineveh.
The first attempts at translating the tablets resulted in them being regarded as myth and subsequently stored (buried) and forgotten. The translations we currently have were conducted by Zecharia Sitchin, Immanuel Velikovsky and Laurence Gardner, with some variations from one another.
What makes this subject so intriguing is that the Sumerian civilization, which is supposed to have existed between about 6500 to 5000 years ago, had detailed knowledge of the structure of our solar system, including the existence of Pluto which we only discovered in 1930.
When the establishment rushes to label something as myth, in my mind it means that in all likelihood there is more truth in it than in what we now refer to as history.
Zari
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15 Jan 2014 16:24:14
Hey guys,
Any good links regarding the death of dr. Kelly or is a quick google/youtube search the best bet?
Thanks,
Harold
15 Jan 2014 17:28:53
I suspect American involvement at some level
Kim Philby
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Israeli secret service killed David Kelly. That was the moment Blair knew he was way out of his depth. That look of shock on his face was real.
Ryan.
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Or mossad
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15 Jan 2014 20:45:31
Question for ed001 and ed033 when u have time.
How far does the rabbit hole go in your opinion?
Craziest thing I have experienced is lucid dreaming and astral projection. I lucid dream almost every night (for people reading: 'waking up' in your dream, knowing u are dreaming and then doing what u want) and astral projection (Happens to me about 5 times a year, and it's always a terrifying experience. I just get too scared to 'separate' and end up basically begging to wake up lmao!)
This shows me there's more to conspiracys and mysteries than just the elite running things. I also think they will have the answers but make sure it's not common knowledge, leaving me frustrated when trying to get to the bottom of things.
I suppose my main questions would be:
1. Do use believe in the law of attraction?
2. What is the point in astral projection?
3. What do use think of infinitely small particles knowing when a human is consciously observing it?
4. Do use believe that the devil is real?
5. Was it ET's or human technology which crashed at Roswell?
6. How long have we got until world dictatorship?
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. If use have any other points or areas for me to look into please mention them.
Thanks for your time guys. AP freaked me out so bad I just have no idea where the limit is now lol. I used to think Illuminati was as crazy as it got, but I was so wrong lol.
Cheers
{Ed033's Note -
1. the law of attraction is real but unlike that ridiculous documentary, 'The Secret', where you can manifest through imagination alone, in the real world, you have to perform actions in order to manifest.
2. It's possible to gain information through astral projection that you wouldn't have attained otherwise
3. Maybe it's the human consciousness affecting the small particles rather than the small particles being aware and reacting to human consciousness
4. Evil appears to be inherent in this galaxy and there are negative entities that could be called demons/archons [or some races of ETs] that incite evil in mankind, but I don't know if there is one super demonic entity about somewhere
5. The dis-info campaign on Roswell is so comprehensive that it is difficult to make a determination of what happened there; only that something did crash at Roswell in 1947, which wasn't a weather balloon
6. If the middle class just allow themselves to be trampled on and assuming there are no mega worldwide disasters, then I would say in 40 years time
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Thanks for the responses, i'm going to look for a decent video/documentary to watch on the subject tonight.
Harold
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15 Jan 2014 10:32:36
Iranian News Says US Is Secretly Run By Nazi Space Aliens:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/14/fars-iran-news-aliens_n_4594161.html.
I think they are spot on.
Neutrino
Nobody will believe it. (i'm on the fence)
It's interesting that they also mentioned the false Alien invasion, which has been mentioned a lot on here.
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14 Jan 2014 23:29:34
{Ed033's Note - Fascinating video (if you watch to the end of it) from the Electric Universe team about how our solar system was a few thousand years ago.
Symbols of an Alien Sky
Good video edd, wouldn't call it fascinating as I've seen a lot of this stuff before.
Geordie Al
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Fascinating indeed Ed033. Thank you for the link and keep them coming.
The so called "blueberries" mentioned in episode 2, have been found on our planet as well, in a variety of sizes and colors. KillahVirusOfHollowVisions posted a link with them further down the page.
Even though I am familiar with the basics of the electric universe principle, watching videos like these helps me reassess the aim of chemtrail practices, HAARP's functions and all invisible effect weapons of the establishment, on top of its foundation shaking implications on my world view.
Zari
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