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12 Jan 2014 12:16Discussion #10540Talk Sense

12 Jan 2014 13:04:17
Just watching Star Trek into darkness and it's interesting that the opening scene is of them on a planet 'nibiru'
The natives of the planet look similar to Prometheus 'aliens' just not as large

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12 Jan 2014 09:34Discussion #11421Talk Sense

12 Jan 2014 08:44:58
Something for anyone that is paying bed room tax! If you have lived in the same house for more than 17 years and always claimed benefits there's a law in place that makes you exempt from bedroom tax! People are getting full refunds on what they have paid if they can prove the above! My friend is one of them! There's talks of them removing this loop hole so if you fall in the above book to see your local C.A.B. ASAP! My friends due to receive over Â£800 in back payments! Just thought I'd share the love! :)

frankyscouser12 Jan 2014 10:51

Good to know mate, does not effect me with having kids but another ploy to make it harder for the poorest is the cut backs on the c. a. b, they have helped me in the past and they will not have the funding to continue meaning to get any type of advice you would have to pay knowing fair well that the poorest will have the funds to see if they are eligible for any type of benefit, speaking from experience my mum had to give up her job because her arthritis, she had to claim benefits, she was getting a pittance and not once did the social security say listen you might be entitled to A B or C, they left her to struggle on it was only for a relative and me and my sister to persuade her that she might be entitled for a disability benefit that she seen the c. a. b, he reassured her that its her right to claim the extra supplement , soon that will be gone and it makes me angry.

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DannyP12 Jan 2014 10:51

17 years claiming benefits, wow, speachless

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Not Registered12 Jan 2014 11:19

Danny

Some people need to claim benefits even if they work due to low incomes, not saying that you don't have cases of someone is sat on their backside for that long however problem is when other benefit claimants get tarred with the same brush, I am fortunate and have never had to claim any benefits however for those who need help and work hard then I don't have a problem with it, the bedroom tax is a decent idea just implemented wrong, if it was for new claimants only and they lived in an area where housing available with the correct number of rooms then yes they should pay, but I do not favour forcing people out of a home they have lived in for years or having to pay because there are no suitable properties.

Jonty

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12 Jan 2014 13:00:26
Unless your disabled or retired there is no need for anyone to be on long term benefits. Street where I live is filled with slappers who left school at 14 to have a kid and 20-30 years later have never been to work. And some people wonder why some of us have had enough of spongers. Sick of seeing some people get everything for nothing whilst those of us that work have to struggle to make ends meet. Proper socialism doesn't mean dumping millions on benefits and leaving them there. The truth of the matter is the welfare state is crippling the country and it needs reigning in before it pushes us under. I have no problem with people in genuine need of help, but no one should spend a lifetime on benefits. If you can work you should work.

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frankyscouser12 Jan 2014 12:42

Bedroom tax is a scam, not enough 2 bedroom homes all over the uk making people move into flats then they will sell council homes to the private sector, as for danny and the unnamed poster one word "sheep"

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11 Jan 2014 15:16Discussion #10539Talk Sense

11 Jan 2014 16:14:28
Antislaveboy on YouTube talks to Luton airport about toxic chemtrails. He's done years of research on airplane routes on flight radar & chemtrails.

Warrior.

http://youtu.be/u0-m2Bwz--A

Not Registered13 Jan 2014 11:08

Thank you for the link Warrior.
As he has already collected the data he should be filing suit against the airline.
By the way, anyone know of a list of commercial airlines engaging in chemical spraying?
Zari

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11 Jan 2014 15:01Discussion #11420Talk Sense

11 Jan 2014 15:55:19
I've been watching and reading a lot of stuff on Roswell! Would love to go there and visit and see the places for myself! What are peoples thoughts on roswell? Me I'm a firm believer something happened that changed the course of history not only in terms of the way government deal with things but also the technological advances we have made in home electronics but also in weaponry! What I give to have been in Roswell in 1947 to see it for myself!

{Ed001's Note - the only problem with that theory is that the Nazis had most of those technological advancements under development, either prior to or during the Second World War. They had working flying wings, for instance, which the US was unable to figure out during the 1950s, despite access to bits and pieces of the work that had been undertaken at the behest of the Nazis. I have often wondered if the truth is more prosaic, that it was just a testbed for captured tech and one piece crashed?}

RR!11 Jan 2014 15:08

I agree to an extent! The nazi's were far more advanced than they led us to believe! There are so many witnesses that say they saw alien bodies some off these witnesses holding high ranking positions! I'd still loved to have been there to see it all for myself! Think I'm going to have to learn to remote view! :)

{Ed001's Note - I wonder if they were wearing decompression suits? They might have looked like aliens to people who had never seen those before?}

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RR!11 Jan 2014 16:30

Not sure ed! As a lot of people stated they were small like children size! The Roswell mortician stated he got a phone call from the air force base asking 4 sealable caskets for children! Other statements say they had 4 bodies covered lying on the ground in front of a covered oval object in hangar 84! There's about 6 statements that all state the same in hangar 84! Could the government have been testing these crafts on children?

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frankyscouser12 Jan 2014 00:27

I have to agree with RR to me roswell was and still is something they can not make go away, some of the excuses are laughable, even thou the nazi scientist made great strides in technology since 1947 we have made a quantum leap that can not be explained.

{Ed001's Note - actually we haven't. All we have really done is miniaturised our tech. Little is actually new, it is just improved, in the main. I mean what great strides have we really made since 1947?}

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RR!12 Jan 2014 10:47

One thing they claim come from Roswell was fibre optics ed! In one of the documents someone obtain it described fibre optics to a T!

{Ed001's Note - fibre optics? Not convinced sorry, that doesn't seem to me to be any big leap that couldn't be made without alien tech. It seems no more than a logical step from some of the theories flying around during the Tesla era. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember reading about something very similar being proposed by either him or one of his contemporaries.}

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frankyscouser12 Jan 2014 11:18

Well let's take something that we all use everyday the phone, cables everywhere now with satellites communication as one example has boomed, over a hundred years ago it was carrier pigeons and horseback!

not forgetting the stuff we are not allowed to see (black projects)as a race I do not think we have the knowledge to have gained so far and fast in a relatively small amount of time, if you look back in history any advance has took hundreds of years for any improvement for another example the wheel.

{Ed001's Note - yes but all those things were in development mate, none of them were a new discovery back engineered from aliens. We already knew the theory and were busy developing the practice, starting with telegraphs. In fact, phones were already around by 1947, as were cables, so how can that be Roswell? Like I said, none of it was new technology, it is only developments of existing ones.

Oh and in history, each civilization was distinct and shielded from each other's ideas. They were unable to share and work together in the way we can now, which is why tech advances so quickly. Plus there was little need to develop most of the things we had until recent times. Why would a farmer need to phone the other side of the world in the 18th century when they knew no one there?}

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11 Jan 2014 10:38Discussion #9071Talk Sense

11 Jan 2014 10:09:26
sorry edd just curious who was up at 05.39 to update the page? I've rolled in at 5am never got up that early apart from going to Wembley for a cup finale.

{Ed033's Note - Ed002

RR!11 Jan 2014 11:17

Haha Ed002 is a machine! :) does ed002 still live in America? This would probably explain it!

{Ed001's Note - no he was up early to catch a flight.}

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Not Registered11 Jan 2014 11:40

11 Jan 2014 12:36:03
How old is this legend

Dave

{Ed001's Note - immortals stop counting when it hits 5 figures, apparently.}

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Not Registered11 Jan 2014 11:57

I think that's where the Mayan long count comes from Ed.

Mort

{Ed001's Note - you may well be on to something there.}

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frankyscouser11 Jan 2014 20:31

So edd02 is the lionel blair of the site eh? interesting.

{Ed001's Note - I did hear he is a 'nifty dancer', if that counts?}

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frankyscouser11 Jan 2014 22:19

Well he seems to be getting older by each post, foxtrot and the cha cha cha.

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11 Jan 2014 00:09Discussion #10538Talk Sense

11 Jan 2014 00:59:44
Hi all ages since I posted but been busy.

To be honest not sure if you have all discussed recently but the talk is two footballers who have been "injured" recently have been in rehab and the FA have covered it up the two players in questions are Andy Carroll and Jack Wilshere. I totally believe the Carroll theory not sure about Wilshere, however the point is I don't think it's just the FA covering up just look at the world class players that pick up an injury that takes twice as long as it would take me or you to recover from (Messi) and the vague description some clubs give such as a thigh injury or a strain of this or the other, I have briefly discussed here before about the theory of Spanish teams and doctors being involved with performance enhancing drugs but believe his is wide spread and that although the established leagues pretend to be a compass for fair paly they are as corrupt as other large organisation and don't even get me started on F1!

Sorry for the rant guys it's been a while and needed to get that of my chest.

Jonty

{Ed001's Note - there are always a number of footballers banned for drug usage by the FA that are allowed to attend rehab, rather than being named and shamed. The FA says that it is better to help them, rather than expose them to the public ridicule and contempt they might otherwise suffer which could destroy their career.

Personally, I think they just don't want people to realise just how riddled with drugs their game is. They want to maintain a certain image, which doesn't match even closely with the reality of copious use of 'social' drugs amongst footballers.}

Not Registered11 Jan 2014 00:29

Thanks for the response ED001 and I agree that the FA cover it up, they are a hypocritical bunch and I would go as far as saying they act like a Mafia these pampered knobs get paid more in a week then the normal man will get in a year and they think it's better to protect them and their (both players and the FA's) income then rid the sport of this, typical thinking of FA, you just got to look at the executives to notice that its an elite club, I have discussed here before that I am a referee at grass roots level and the first thing I was taught was that those who made it to the premier league panel not on ability but on who you know and it wrangles with me as I love the sport but hate the obvious corruption

{Ed001's Note - it will be interesting to see how far the investigation goes into match fixing etc. I can't see it being allowed to find much.}

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liono7411 Jan 2014 04:39

There's a hell of a lot of things being covered up by the fa, I used to work in my local pub and one friday night a guy claiming to be part of a company that handled legal matters for footballers, was drinking at the bar. As the night wore on he was talking about being present during the infamous robbie fowler nightclub cocaine incident, he then went on to say how a certain man u defender (whose first name is the same as a brazilian city) was addicted to crack and kept missing urine tests on purpose. He said they all believed they are better than the rest of us and could basically do what they want. I think a lot of people know what goes on and don't want to believe it. I was sceptical with the guy in the pub but as time goes on I think its becoming more widespread.
Another conspiracy surrounding football is the way the league is set up to protect the top 8 teams as they generate more income than the rest of the uk leagues put together. So the fa, fifa and uefa protect these teams by changing the rules ( financial fair play et al) to consolidate their position. Just look at goal line technology and the way refs decide the outcome of games ( late penalties being a classic ). Every professional sport around the world has had cameras for decisions since the nineties at the latest why has football taken so long? Money would be the answer.
still love Sunderland fc mind!

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frankyscouser11 Jan 2014 10:03

We have all heard the rumours about certain players from our cities, the carrol rumour is strange as in, would his medical not show up any drug use from us to west ham?i admit he has been out of action a hell of a lot of time and I do agree that the fa would cover the drug use of class A players{ (pardon the pun)and yes lino totally agree about the top 6 clubs getting the benefit of doubt on many different decisions, it used to be the roar of the crowd that influenced refs now its how rich the clubs are (obviously better players as well) since the epl was formed its grew into a monster, I am drifting off track here but with winning games/points becoming the holy grail, you will see a ref getting jail for bribes sooner rather than later ala italy.

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Not Registered11 Jan 2014 11:17

I think cocaine can come out of your system within 24 hours or so which can make it hard to pick up. Also it's not considered by the people in charge that it's performance enhancing so it's treated differently. On a similar note there has been no more mention in the news about the Spanish judges strange decision to destroy the several hundred blood bags of the Spanish medical team that was used by lance armstrong. They belonged to a variety of sportsmen. My guess would be Nadal and many Spanish players blood samples were there including Barca, Real Madrid and Valencia players. fuentes is quoted as saying that " if the world knew the truth about the Spanish national team then they would be stripped of the world and European cup".
My guess it's that's why it's being swept under the carpet and all being out onto lance armstrong. Nadal was out "injured" for quite some time when it all went on. Other differences in our drug testing in our football is that we in this country test blood and urine where as Spain and Italy test just urine. Image how much you could bend the rules by having regular blood transfusions to also flush your system of any substances. It would explain some of the so called strange results.

Supasub

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RR!11 Jan 2014 14:02

You can also buy fake drug test kits! Where they will actually send you drug free urine! Think one website offers an attachable penis filled with urine incase they want you to do the test in front of them i. e military! :) google it there out there as crazy as it sounds

{Ed001's Note - Tyson has admitted using one, so they do work.}

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10 Jan 2014 20:45Discussion #11419Talk Sense

10 Jan 2014 21:21:14
Just doing a bit of reading up on Fukishima and can't believe we are having a media black out when things are getting worse day by day! Reports I've read is that parts of Fukishima are turning up on beaches in California! A scientist saying that he thinks everyone in Japan will die due to this and half of america will have to leave due to radiation.

Happy new year to all regular posters and ed001, ed033 amd ed002 as well as not been on for a while as been busy with projects but good to be back! :)

{Ed001's Note - good to see you again mate, even if your post isn't exactly good news!}

RR!10 Jan 2014 21:25

Good to be back ed! I've still been popping on every now and again! All this Fukishima stuff reminds me of that film the china syndrome! If you haven't seen it watch it and see how many coincidences there are!

Hope you and your family ed had a good Christmas and new year!

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it for years, but now you mention it, I can see what you mean.}

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Not Registered11 Jan 2014 00:13

11 Jan 2014 01:10:05
What's happening with Fukushima?! Anyone explain, why can't they stop it, or are they letting it happen?

David

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RR!11 Jan 2014 10:03

It's more to do with how TEPCO have been dealing with it! If reports are true they advised to simply get rid of the nuclear waste by pumping it into the ocean! Because the gulf stream it has made its way across to America! There are reports from the navy saying the ocean is dead! One sailor sailed 3000 nautical miles without seeing a single living thing! One Japanese scientist said when you think of Chernobyl times that by 20,000 and that's probably where we are at now! But still media black out! The only news station reporting this is RT! People saying TEPCO are simply trying to duck tape up the problems! Things will get a lot worse as its at a stage now where it can't be stopped! It can be managed but the damage 3 years on will never be repaired! All things put in place to slow this down have failed so far! I think they've left it way to long! This thing is scary and could potentially hurt the entire northern hemisphere!

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frankyscouser11 Jan 2014 10:03

It is claimed they could not stop the leak and radiation is still pouring in the ocean, the head of states al over the world know about it and have kept quiet simply because it would cause a panic and no one would be buying anything that was in that ocean, so they all keep stum, I am a tuna lover but I have swerved it as most off tuna comes from there, no wonder the amount of new diseases that are being found, they are literally dumping all toxic crap anywhere and killing us.

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RR!11 Jan 2014 10:56

Hi franky hope your well mate! I would stay well clear of tuna as well! They believe all tuna has been contaminated even the canned stuff from super markets! I'm seriously considering buying a Geiger counter! Not only the tuna would be effected pretty much everything this touches it will effect! To put this in figures we are allowed 100 millirems per year through x-rays and natural radiation. The last count at Fukishima was 1,000,000 millirems! Governments are making out this is under control so people continue there daily lives without thought but this thing will come to a head soon and they will have no choice but to report this but that could be too late! people thinking this won't effect us are so so wrong! Because of the gulf stream, heavy winds, contaminated animals this has probably already had a detrimental effect on the northern hemisphere! People need to wake up! If there was ever a time to believe the powers that be hide the truth from you this is it!

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09 Jan 2014 22:53Discussion #10892Talk Sense

09 Jan 2014 21:57:21
Ed/pea anymore info on the machine/matrix
Or anything along those lines been watching some of ickes stuff about the moon being hollow and a transmittor for the machine. Some other info by someone else forgot his name though sorry. The dark side of the moon and its bases and why Google cover the poles on the planets

{Ed033's Note - Some info in this - John Lear Tells All - Part 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0

Not Registered10 Jan 2014 12:45

10 Jan 2014 13:35:57
Can anyone explain what the 'machine' is, I saw your talks about it and didn't understand, cheers

Aron

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Not Registered10 Jan 2014 16:42

Here are a couple of introductory links that may help you get a sense of "IT". These are two interviews with Richard Sauder, who recounts his experiences of The Machine as revealed to him by Ayahuasca.

They are as gentle an introduction to this monstrosity as might exist. pea

What is The Machine?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yr8edrGqmc

A Message to Humanity
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAr9thvf4I

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Not Registered10 Jan 2014 16:42

The machine I read was that of An ex soldier who was picked to join an elite unit. he wrote a book about it 'the last sixteen' I think is what it was called. Explains his training and the missions he done in the Middle East, most notably Egypt. They were giving a special 'belt' that could decapitate men at the blink of an eye. I doubt some of the stuff he has written, but I enjoy those sort of tales. Think there is a few links posted about him and the book below.

AP

{Ed033's Note - Yes, John Urwin, The Sixteen

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09 Jan 2014 16:47Discussion #9070Talk Sense

09 Jan 2014 17:36:14
sad sad events on the peoples voice, the show seems to be imploding, sonia poulton one of the presenters walked of the live show halfway thru, now its snipping by her about david icke, now she has mentioned any donations she might get will set up her own media outlet, three words come to mind "divide and conquer " something smells about this, edds have you any thoughts or regulars who watch tpv?

{Ed033's Note - The establishment felt threatened with Project Camelot and broke Kerry and Bill apart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qTBlKjvbX4

frankyscouser09 Jan 2014 19:17

I have seen that interview before edd the divide between k cassidy and bill ryan which they acknowledge now, ok I will ask a straight question because its crossed my mind, do you think sonia poulton was a plant or encouraged for her own benefit to leave?

the timing could have not come at a worse time with the program needing more donations add the cyber attacks this seems premeditated for it to fall on its ass.

{Ed033's Note - What I was saying is that if they feel threatened they can break up anything. Neither Kerry Cassidy nor Bill Ryan were 'plants'. I don't know anything about the sonia poulton situation but it could be any amount of possibiities

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Not Registered10 Jan 2014 08:36

Surely if the people u talk about wanted rid of David icke then surely they could so it no bother. I think mr. Icke along with mr. Jones are only interested in 1 thing, and that is to make as much Â£ as they can. They are exploiters, they see there is a huge contingent who believe in all sorts of conspiracys, and rightfully go about making a living out of it. I mean wasn't David icke working for the bbc at 1 point? Surely it could've been easy for them to say he was involved in operation yewtree also? If we are to believe the government would and are capable of staged terror attacks and hire 'actors' to be witnesses to these attacks, then surely they could pull frame David icke if they see him as a threat?!

AP

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frankyscouser10 Jan 2014 09:45

I think this is a lot different from the project camelot split edd the more I have read and seen the more I think this was premeditated, after seeing the david icke video explaining why sonia poulton left the show, I read her response on twitter and she said she would also making a video response to david ickes comments and all the points icke questioned her about she never denied, to me she was a plant that has threw mud about donations to the show, like I mentioned the timing could not come at a worse time and to question the sponsorship income when she works there smells, a few hours after leaving the show she indicates she would like to do her own media show, coincidence? I think not, this is the final nail in the coffin for tpv which would be a crying shame as by the cyber attacks on the show now this the establishment want this media show to disappear.

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frankyscouser10 Jan 2014 12:45

I knew the Â£ would come into this, threw out the years I have watched both jones and icke and even thou I do not agree with everything they say on the whole I believe what both they are saying, as for the Â£ innuendo, jones could be accused off advertising / sponsoring deals to keep his show up and running, does that make him a bad person? icke has publicly said he needs sponsorship but he will not be sponsored by certain brands because his show will be attacking those certain corporations, and I am sorry AP but like many who think like you do that its a big con for money but I would be more skeptical about ickes motives if there was no need for donations/sponsorship, the show is on its last legs because of cyber attacks /running out of money now mud slinging by a former employee, can you not see the pattern mate? they want the show off /gone.

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Not Registered10 Jan 2014 16:42

So why not frame the man then? They can 'kill' prominent figures apparently 'lady di' if icke is so much of a stir to them then surely he could have an 'accidental death' 'Drugs overdose' 'Criminally prosecuted' operation. yewtree would be ideal, no? Remind me how much his talks cost? All the talk of these powerful figures ruling the world, starting wars, using black tech to destroy buildings, mind control, satanic rituals, killing off prominent figures at will, Planet X. list could go on, mostly all conspiracys on here involve illuminati or higher powers. Yet they are struggling to get a man off the Internet who is out to expose them!

AP

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08 Jan 2014 18:47Discussion #2252Talk Sense

08 Jan 2014 19:42:49
Right I am sure your all famaliar with conspiracy of 2pac faking his death in Las Vegas on Sept 13th 1996, there are some anomilies on how he got there. his family say they drove but his personal security say they flew from New York in a helicopter. however he was there to watch a boxing match.

he was supposedly received threats before he left. he was photo'd clean shaven (this is important as we'll see). he left the venue and got in the car with his manager and guards going around to clubs. now the last photo of him, he's in the front passenger seat with a goatee beard! Now down the road they stop at the red light, a white car pulls up beside and opens fire on tupacs side according to a reporter. on scene he was medivaced to hospital while being put into an ambulance behind her!

Reports suggest he died from bullet wounds to the chest. unusual for someone who ALWAYS wore a bullet proof vest. after his "death" autopsy, reports showing incorrect weight and height. also reported sightings of him since and every year on his birthday his mother visits Cuba where he is reported to be living.
Your thoughts?

frankyscouser08 Jan 2014 19:08

I think he is dead, its a bit like the elvis and mccartney stories that go around that gives anti conspiracy skeptics ammo.

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RM808 Jan 2014 21:41

Have you ever really looked into it Franky? It's got so much more to it than the Elvis or McCartney story's or any other dead Celeb in my opinion it's a great conspiracy. Like Big Red said there's video sightings on YouTube that are interesting but not conclusive. Also songs released after he was dead mentioning thing like Beyonces Destinys Child & Obama. Like I said

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KillahVirusOfHollowVisions08 Jan 2014 21:41

He wasn't taken to hospital at the shooting scene Suge Knight drove away from the scene away further away from hospital he also claimed he was grazed by bullet in his forehead whilst throwing himself over 2pac doctors have said that's a lie he had a bump from hitting his head on dashboard.

If he did fake his death he did it to get away from Suge Knight, Suge paid Â£1.4 mil to get 2pac out on bail in return for 2pac making 3 studio albums well 2pac was a workhorse he had all the material done in months and was pissed that Suge turned 2 albums into 1 (All Eyes On Me) which left him with still 2 albums on his deal he wanted out of Death Row so he could start Makeveli Records he was a slave to Suge he obviously got paid royalties from older albums and got paid for the shows and movies whilst at Death Row but Suge wasn't paying him as he already did when he got him out of jail.

Suge had all LAPD bent cops as Death Row security when they wasn't on duty remember the Rampart scandal well they all worked for death Row and did you know that when Notorious BIG was killed in LA lil cease who was sat in back said it was a police officer who walked up to car and opened fire. Suge got wind of the fact 2pac wanted out and realised that at the rate he was making tracks he would be free from his contract in no time so he decided if he got him killed he will still be making him money.

Suge instigated the fight at the casino with Orlando Anderson to give somebody else a motive to want to kill him. Suge ordered Frank Alexander, 2pac personal bodyguard to get in car behind with 2pac's crew Outlawz and made 2pac not wear his vest. he then drove a longer route to his club taking a detour when the call pulled up and opened fire, police found 2 different shell casings 1 was found inside their car the car that opened fire was the distraction to Suge pumping rounds from his gun into 2pac.

the best cover up. the thing was he didn't plan on him surviving. Suge was not allowed to see him at the hospital, kept getting turned away. if 2pac did survive in hospital he would know it was Suge and knew there was no other way out then having to fake his death. this was the 2nd time in 2 years people tried to murder him this time it was from somebody close to him, somebody he couldn't get away from because he worked for him.

There are lots of things to say he didn't die that night the 1 that stands out to me is a song called All Out he says quite a few things like "You're wondering who shot me" then in some really low voice he says "nobody" in the same song he says "you killed Kadaffi murdered my friend now I built a new posse" Kadaffi was in the Outlawz and got killed the month after 2pac died after being the only person to police he could identify 2pac's killer how could 2pac say that if he was dead sorry bout long post but I know all about this as I grew up on 2pac I remember where I was when I heard he was dead

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frankyscouser08 Jan 2014 22:29

Yeah mate I have read and watched a few documentaries about tupac, sorry guys I just don't see it, I know autopsies pictures can be faked but t definitely looks like tupac, as for lyrics about him in songs being alive the same thing got saI'd about certain Beatles songs hinting McCartney being dead, you guys will know a he'll of a lot mire than me about tupac and it was interesting reading your point. , I just can not see it mate!

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Not Registered08 Jan 2014 23:43

09 Jan 2014 00:36:17
In the lyrics to all out he mentions muammar gaddafi not yaki kadafi who was the one killed after pac was killed as for the line murder my friends built a new posse he means he murdered his old posse who where called thug life not literally murdered though lol because in his own words thug life the group/posse where not acting right so he built his new group/posse tha outlawz as for the song all out it is one of the last songs he recorded before going to Vegas and sadly dying the other songs recorded where hell for a hustler and some speculate that letz get ready to rumble was also part of that last recording session and said song was used as an intro to mike tysons fight against Bruce seldon 2pac fan

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08 Jan 2014 16:36Discussion #9069Talk Sense

08 Jan 2014 17:36:03
david ickes show is getting hit by cyber attacks and I have no doubt in my mind its the shadow government trying to close the show down, I sponsor his show for a pound a month and I hope people from this site do the same, unbiased news and the best thing about the peoples voice is, if funds and sponsorship are pledged, any event like a 7/7 lady di death or a so called terrorist attack, they hope to have cameras on the scene like the bbc/itv etc and ask questions to witnesses that mainstream media wont, that's why these cyber attacks are happening, they want to make this show go away, we all bitch about the elite so here is a chance and do something they do not want you to do, come on guys let's make this happen its only a pound a month.

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07 Jan 2014 18:41Discussion #1990Talk Sense

07 Jan 2014 19:39:41
Some information regarding the conspiracy surrounding the death of Nelson Mandela.

Mandela died on the 26/06/2013 after his family opted to switch off the machines that were keeping him alive. The documents proving this have been made public.
On the 29/06/2013 Nelson Mandela was buried.
The next day, 30/06/2013, USA president Obama expressed his condolences to the Mandela family on recorder media.

On the 16/12/2013 91 prominent establishment puppets, including 4 USA presidents, gathered in South Africa to do who knows what?

This interesting youtube clip shows the relevant documents and the recording of Obama's condolences.
It claims that the most distinguished of them were there to meet Marduk (Molloch) the ruler of Nibiru (Planet X):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrIcZiqCyls

Don't know what to make of it, but at least we have proof that there was a conspiracy to hide the real date of death and burial of Nelson Mandela.

P. S. Franky knew what he was talking about.
Zari

Not Registered07 Jan 2014 19:37

I'm not always the best imagining what these type of videos are inciting. What is he trying to get at in the end there when he says these "stone circles" connected by channels & roads have no entrance & exit points?

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Not Registered08 Jan 2014 08:15

08 Jan 2014 09:07:41
Wow ffs, every famous person that dies, there is a conspiracy about it, Paul walker, Michael Jackson, tupac ect ect, it's beyond a joke, they are not murdered by the illuminati or whatever it is.

So annoying

Gary

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Not Registered08 Jan 2014 08:51

Gary,

Why would you be annoyed?

I thought Zari's post was particularly non-sensationalist and supported by evidence. He even states "Don't know what to make of it, but at least we have proof that there was a conspiracy to hide the real date of death and burial of Nelson Mandela. "

Is that not a fair enough comment?

To be honest the rest of the stuff went over my head but it is something I would like to look into when I get a chance. It certainly didn't annoy me to read it, if it did I would probably stop visiting this site!

H

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Not Registered08 Jan 2014 09:56

Is it really so hard to believe that maybe Nelson's family wanted to bury him in peace & mourn there loss without all the attention? Without the whole world talking about it all the falseness that comes with it people acting like they actually give a damn? I mean you just have to look at what Michael Schumachers wife is going through the media have no respect for people in there darkest hours it's disgusting at times. I've not seen Paul Walker mentioned on here but there's far too many "coincidences" linked too Tupacs death not too raise questions changing his name to Makaveli (someone from the bible who faked there own death I'm sure) to start with he also mentioned the Illuminatin In many songs even had an album called Killuminati. Then there's videos of Michael Jackson talking about these people we call "illuminati" some really strange happenings before his death. The Music & entertainment Business is controlled & manipulated one way or another if some of these people spoke about the corruption it would shock the world killing them off makes sense.

RM8

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frankyscouser08 Jan 2014 10:15

What I wrote a few months about mandela's a few months ago points to one thing, " greed" the article I read said NM died in june (braindead) and his family were in dispute with him over his monies/estate and they simply kept him alive until they could change his wishes because by law once you are dead it is very very hard to overturn a will. so guys he did die in june, you are not going to get obama flying across the world for no reason.

this type of stuff happens all the time with families all over the world , like I said all about greed.

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