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Discussion #9046Talk Sense

01 Nov 2013 11:20:41
i recorded a interesting show called brad meltzers decoded and it was about fort knox, a few interesting facts I never knew, if you combined the gold reserves in russia /saudi arabia/egypt a few more I can't remember , fort knox would hold more than all of them, trillions and trillions of dollars, so why is the dollar dropping if they have the gold?well they think its empty, it has tighter security there than the whitehouse, and they do not want anyone knowing that the peoples gold has been sold, the last president to see the gold was ronald regan, obama has to apply to see if he can visit fk, they had this finacle prediction expert that studied in princeton and worked at wall street, he has cashed in all of his savings relocated (his identity hidden) and said his job was to predict what the economy be like in the future and hence he has bought a recluse home/ guns etc he said its when this will happen not if, they asked if he thought fk has gold in its vault, he said no, he said there are two scenarios what can happen the first if the dollar gradually declines say over ten years (which it will) and its not a shock to the system, the other scenario is like a wall street crash or say find out that fort knox has no gold reserves, then there would be chaos in the streets, riots/looting deaths within a few days, martial law, that's why I have sympathy for the responsible for the law abiding gun owners who fear this day will come, it sort of coincides with the tv shows that are on next week, one is called blackout (cyber attack) if I was devious and I did not want to let my people know I have no money left how about allowing a massive cyber attack that blacks out america for a few months?

 

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Franky I don't think they have any gold or if they do it's mortgaged to China and belongs to them you can't be trillions in debt and keep adding to it without any security, it's got to hit the ceiling sooner rather than later we all set up for a fall, cash is worthless spend what you have and enjoy it while it lasts as hardship is coming.

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Agree jonty once america goes under it will lead to a domino effect around the globe.
{Ed033's Note - They seem to have this idea that they can keep things going for the next 20 years or longer just by borrowing an infinite amount of money against our future labour, infinitely into the future. Because they believe that once they have their totally controlled one world order, all the economic problems and debt crisis will disappear as the population reduces.
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World Collapse Explained in 3 Minutes

http://youtu.be/NOzR3UAyXao

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Discussion #10449Talk Sense

31 Oct 2013 23:54:54
Just wondering if anyone believes bigfoot maybe a skinwalker the native americans believe in. or from a diffrent dimension. neil

 

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I go along with the skinwalker theory on bigfoot.
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Cheers franky. think its quite a rational concept and the authorities ar quite happy that no one will ever believe it. neil
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BigRed
I believe it exists whatever way it does it was only 20-30 years ago these "experts" said gorillas were extinct I think Bigfoot is simalar story only more intelligent, and doesn't want anything to do with us and I have to say I'd agree with them!
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Discussion #9045Talk Sense

30 Oct 2013 21:41:59
got to get this off my chest, a guy that I like and I thinks talks a hell of a lot of sense (russell brand) is getting panned by people who think he is a fraud and a plant they people who think this have have been the same principles as me but we disagree on this infact the same guy in the past thought I was some type of mole (mi5 monitoring their website according to acquaintance)anyway the paranoia setting in about who I think are good people is going way over the top to the extent that because this site has a disclaimer for not taking things too seriously that powerful subjects were not took to seriously and this was a zionist site, no doubt I put him straight am still a bit p----d of about it to be honest, soz guys had to get that off my chest.

 

frankyscouser
Hmm just read back my last post and it does not make any sense to me never mind anyone else, I will try to explain it better.

a guy on a different website who I think has good intentions is basically suspicious of everyone in the media and normal people and sites, his site according to him is being monitored, I won't go into too much detail but he is convinced.

the thing that gets me mad is when he accuses other people and sites as being shills (had to google shill)now to my main point about russell brand just because he has a few bob and is famous he is treated as suspicious seeking more publicity which I think is a load of ****.

to me the more famous the better if they have the right motives, I am no david beckham lover but I would be his biggest supporter if he had the same beliefs as brand and made it public but that is not going to happen.
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I myself think Russell brand is a complete fraud, a very intelligent guy, no question. but his whole persona is a carefully constructed act, part Kenneth Williams part God knows who, can't do with millionaires preaching about how the poor people are being treated, just my opinion, generally agree with you on most things frankly, but not brand
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Mate everyone has different opinions and its good to debate, a few times a regular or one of the edds has changed my opinion with facts or a alternative point of view and rethought my opinion, not often like ha (joke) in my opinion brand does not preach he gets asked by the media, as for his fame and wealth well he has been on question time a few times and he made the point the corporations and people of a certain wealth should pay the bulk of the taxes and people like him, also remember he was never brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth, good call about the kenneth williams thou ha.
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31 Oct 2013 11:15:02
I admire his confidence whilst wondering where exactly it comes from, I have no invested belief in him though I agree entirely with what he said in the Paxman interview (as did Paxman), some will call him schill, others saviour - It's inevitable people will be divided over him, personally i'd rather scratch my eyes out than debate over his credentials; and in my opinion what we have here is a wonderful p. o. e. (point of entry) for people who have yet to wake up, or are just beginning to. Misguided or not it's irrelevant; we are so screwed anyway that it doesn't matter. The sooner people realise there is no Saviour, that to surrender one's own unit of power to another is foolish, and that they themselves carry the responsibility of the world, the better, and if RB sets them off in this direction, then good.

I'd like to add it's no great feat to know you're being monitored when we have been publicly, openly told that we are being monitored. pea
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Katy Perry is allegedly MK Ultra mind controlled. Brand is now involved with Jemima Goldsmith, nuff said.

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Discussion #10448Talk Sense

30 Oct 2013 15:35:22
Anybody saw the latest maddie mcCann story? Apparently she was kidnapped by an ex employee of the hotel who the police didn't know about because he had been sacked shortly b4 she went missing. This guy has since died, any1 else think is kind of convenient to blame the dead guy?

 

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Smoking mirrors, the portuguese detective who the mccanns are now suing for a million pounds (to help find maddie of course) maintains that they know more than they are admitting, for the record he thinks the child died of a accident and maybe they have panicked about leaving there kids alone and got rid of the body, the detective suspicions grew more when kate mccann was alone from jerry and broke down and said something like "i have seen maddie in a dream and she is buried on a hill" or something like that,

the top and tail of it is they spend more time going to court suing people who question there events than actually looking for the kid, the mccanns have put a injunction which was a bestseller in portugal on the detectives book.
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Utter garbage! The mirror wrote that the suspect done this to prove security was questionable. What a coincidence that he would have a opportunity as a family would just so happen to leave their kids alone. Blame someone that's dead. Perfect crime for the mccanns

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Where did you hear this latest story? Davie.
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At last, after all this time, they have finally found a 'patsy'.
The report is all over the MSM Davie, they're saying that a disgruntled ex employee "kidnapped Maddie in an act of revenge against his former employees". Utter nonsense IMHO, the police would be better off having a word with Steven Birch and properly investigating his claims.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id413.html

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I have just read today that the met have spent £5m on the case so far and this is at a time that they are closing stations and losing front line officers in London, stinks to high heaven.

If this was me or you they would have not spent a penny and reported us to social services for leaving our kids alone.

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Discussion #10447Talk Sense

30 Oct 2013 13:57:09
Had an idea on 9/11 that I'd like to hear your thoughts about.

I'm puzzled as to why the delay between when the first explosions are witnessed and when they were turned to powder. As I haven't been able to get a hold of Judy Wood's book, anyone who has please tell me what she said about it.
As I was thinking about resonant frequencies and sound cannons, I remembered that the time it takes to achieve resonance depends solely on the size of the object. Those towers where quite large so that would fit with the time frame.
This could also explain why the towers never erupted the basin located beneath the towers which some say is there, as once achieving resonant threshold the towers would have turned to dust.
Then I started thinking about what could have happened to the device/devices that were used for achieving resonance. Whether it was a subsonic cannon or a simple linear motor, either way the device would have remained largely intact after the collapse of the towers. This reminded me that people claimed the FBI had found 3 of the 4 black boxes and removed them from the site under cover of darkness. Those could be the devices.
Let me know what you think.
Zari

 

BigRed
It's certainly plausible, Zari thanks for sharing your theory!
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Thanks for taking the time to reply BigRed.
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31 Oct 2013 11:23:25
I've heard somewhere about '1400 degree hot spots' being recorded in or around the towers up to a week before the 11th. Unfortunately I have no reference (i read this on the net somewhere, apologies but I didn't save it which I regret now) but could this fit into the use of such devices, as a 'charge-up', say? Anyone able to add any info on these '1400 degree hot spots'? Any search I perform just comes up with heat registers of the collapse, which is not the same thing I read the other day. pea
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Here are a few good links re Dr Judy Wood:

http://drjudywood.com/towers/

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T1NbBxDGSkI

MrTrotskysGhost
{Ed033's Note - The towers were turned to dust because of molecular dissociation. The theory for achieving the molecular dissociation would be that black technology energy beams were 'fired' from space platforms.

In Judy Wood's book, you can see images taken from above where you can see parts of large round holes at ground level, which is at least some evidence that this theory of black technology energy beams being 'fired' from above, into the towers could be true.

In addition, lots of people (way more than has been reported) jumped from the towers for no apparent reason as the few fires had been put out, so they didn't jump because of fire. This leads to the theory the the energy beams were causing people to think they had to jump or they would die (possibly it may have felt like being in a microwave oven?)
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I'll have to look that up pea.
Grateful for your inputs guys.
Zari
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Discussion #9044Talk Sense

29 Oct 2013 23:15:19
i watch a lot of the reality gold tv shows on tv and the dangers they go threw to get it, the thing is there must must be about 4 or 5 shows now and the price of gold is rising, it can mean only one thing paper money is going to be worthless, one thing gets me curious about gold, to me it has to have some hidden use than just looking good and for decoration, has anyone read why it is so valuable?i have read something about aliens need it for some reason but I am still unsure about its use.

 

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Something to do with protecting their atmosphere on the planets their from, hence why the sudden interest in it, to try and get everyone to sell up. Is it any coincidence that the a Illuminati puppet Gordon Brown sold all our reserves off cheap!

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Gold is a great conductor which is why it is used in high quality cables. However, there is talk of peculiar interaction between gold and light under certain conditions, due to its high conductivity in combination with its molecular structure.
Some people advocate ingesting colloidal gold and mono-atomic gold as it supposedly allows your body to hold more charge on a cellular level, amplifying thought manifestation capabilities. Colloidal gold is created by using gold rods in water electrolysis. I am not sure on the method used to produce mono-atomic gold.
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frankyscouser
Cheers guys we I learn something new off this site at least once a week.
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It doesn't rust and can be made into very fine pieces to reflect the suns rays.
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liono74
I think monotomic gold only exists for billionths of a second, bit of a technicality. Just sounds like sci fi to me!
Once heard a quote about gold and its usefulness, if we could replicate metals ( a la star trek ) then the cost of copper would be higher than gold as copper has more uses.
Something like that anyway.
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Discussion #10446Talk Sense

29 Oct 2013 19:51:57
What does everybody think of the Russell Brand interview, do you think people will start waking up and being a revolution against this tired and out dated system.

Freedom Fighter

 

{Ed033's Note - It's got to get a lot worse yet before people even begin to think about starting to 'wake up'.

After the smart meters, they have a plan for energy inspectors to go around everyone's house and if you won't or can't afford to upgrade your property, then they'll condemn your property and throw you out. This is a 2 stage idea, whereby stage 1 is where you pay to upgrade all your electrical devices and electrical infrastructure in your property and stage 2 where you pay for solar cells to be fitted. But it won't stop there. Agenda 21, the agenda for the 21st century, is the agenda, 1 stepping stone at a time.

And there will still be some people saying that we have to do whatever the government says, even when they're told by the government, to pop along to have a lethal injection because they're no longer useful to society.
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29 Oct 2013 22:41:25
But maybe this tired and outdated system is ready for replacement by The Authority, for whom it has served perfectly as a means to carry us onto the next step? Is 'revolution' really 'r-evolution'?
An interesting fact about making steps is they have to be made in equal increments otherwise people will trip up, so I think it will take something mind-blowing, something that will make people literally s**t their pants, peace be with them. pea
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frankyscouser
Totally agree with edd it has to get a hell of a lot worse, lower classes have always been targeted and with the propaganda tv shows about people claiming of the state works a treat for them, now your so called middle class are taking a hit as well but for the people to truly stand our ground it has to be at least 60% of the people to say "enough is enough" I keep banging on about south america but the people had enough of getting screwed and now they are in a hell of a lot better position than us, when our economy crashes and it will then you will see a revolt.
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30 Oct 2013 12:51:22
Brands a fine one to call for a revolution sitting in his new two million dollar home in the Hollywood hills. Hypocrite. Ed what's that about upgrading properties?
{Ed033's Note - It's on their 1 step at a time, to do list. If you don't or won't upgrade, they assume you'll consent to your property being condemned as not fit to live in so you therefore you can't live in it. All part of Agenda 21.
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I'm confused what dies ones wealth have to do with opinion? I enjoy the thoughts of matt Damon as well on such subjects, very open minded to close your ears to somebody based on their financial position
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I guess it's a defense mechanism to the way "authority" is used to inhibit logical thinking.
People tend to mistrust somebody, who after having a piece of the pie tries to convince you not to have one.
Zari
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Discussion #9043Talk Sense

28 Oct 2013 09:22:02
this is for all you people who like me believe in ufos/alien stories, stan romanek is the guy who had a video set up in his room looking towards his window and you see a alien head glide up a few times (pretty famous youtube clip) at the time I thought definitely fake for a few reasons, like how calm they are at seeing it plus actually setting up a camera in the first place, but as you listen to his life story it is fascinating what he has gone threw and for years has photographic evidence and vocal, either this guy is a great fraud or is telling the truth after watching his speech I think its the latter now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWrQf2wWLg

 

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If you ever had any doubts about UFO's, ET's or abductions then watch this video, good call Franky.
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Wavertree Red
Watched the whole thing. He's on the make with the usual book, talk show and movie money making spin offs. He also failed a lie detector. Spouts more hot air than Lazar.

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29 Oct 2013 14:29:13
Have you heard of the John Reed/Rutter case, franky? It's equally entertaining, has audio and visual evidence, and has also been long exposed as a hoax. pea
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frankyscouser
No mate I haven't and I understand the suspicion with this guy with the book/movie deals but if this was just the youtube clip in his bedroom I would agree but you have to admit it is strange a ufo is always around were he is and plenty of witnesses to back up his claims, I have not heard of the failed lie detector wavertree red, I could be wrong on this but I think the guy is telling the truth, one more thing that is going to contradict myself is, when he tells his story he is jokey and a matter of fact about his experiences, most people would be scared and withdrawn plus when he mentions his step grandson possibly being abducted to me that would cause major problems with his g/f, not sure what to think now.
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29 Oct 2013 22:19:27
I remember when Romanek came out with his initial claim of having the video, he wouldn't show it although he went onto radio and television talking about it, but still he wouldn't release the footage so what exactly are his motivations?
These types of cases have been going on for a long time, at least since George Adamski's day and they are always complicated by claims and counter-claims that continue to pile up over time, making the waters ever murkier.
I don't see how ufology has moved on at all in nearly 70 years, we're still asking the same questions our predecessors did, and we have the same amount of answers - none. pea
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Discussion #9579Talk Sense

27 Oct 2013 13:10:11
Hey Eds and regular posters any football related conspiracies out there that are maybe less talked/known about?
Jack!

 

{Ed002's Note - I heard that the Southport F.C. team that were unexpected runners-up in Division 4 in 1966/67 were made up of the undead.}
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I can conker with that.
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Barcelona (definately) and possibly Real Madrid so basically most of the Spanish national team and I think Valencia to name a few of the teams which apparently used doctors on an ad hoc basis with strong links to Lance Armstrong's medical team.
Eds or anyone know what's happened about the 300 or so blood bags that a Spanish judge wanted destroyed (very strange decision)? Which sports persons were they samples of?
Messi being given HGH from a young age and apparently that's ok?
Sandro rossell of Barca paying in between 1 to 2 million euros or so to a top fifa official's daughters account not long after the 2nd CL final against Manchester United. What was that payment for?
Apparently rumoured to be for influencing referees. They certainly benefited from some strange decisions over a few years with players from opposing teams getting strangely sent off (RVP for one), I certainly remember a period when you only had to look at a Barca player and they were awarded free kicks and able to control flow of the game and possession.
I'm still convinced it's going on.
Referees used to get given gifts of nice watches and nice female shaparons supplied by the home team in Italy and probably elsewhere in the 90's and I'd imagine it still goes on today.
There is a few for you and I can go into more detail on any of them. Be interesting to hear one of the eds thoughts and some of this stuff has gone a bit quiet, certainly the blood bag samples and sandro rossells payment to a fifa officials daughters bank account.

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28 Oct 2013 12:04:11
I'm a level 7 referee (Which is the lowest level for adult football local Sunday league etc) and was told during my training that it does not matter how good you are you will only be promoted to the top panel if you know the right people in the FA, UEFA and FIFA.

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Fuentes confided to someone in prison that if the world knew the truth then Spain would have the World Cup removed from them immediately. The Spanish team covers most of barcelona and Real Madrid so this could most certainly apply to barcelonas haul of trophies in recent years.
Guardiola tested positive for nandrolone whilst in Italy and was strangely absolved when investigated. The same club doctor then at Brescia went on to become a doctor at barcelona under guardiola.
Eric abidal needed a liver transplant which soused suspicion as severe liver damage is a well documented side effect of substance abuse, particularly nandrolone. There are far too many coincidences. Barcelona would even travel to away games including champions league the same day as the match as this allegedly meant that it was very difficult for the team to be drug tested by uefa or anyone else for that matter. In Spain they only test rarely and nearly always urine and not blood which I think both are required in our country.
I look at players like Puyol, Maldini (when he was playing), Sanchez, Adriana (barcelona), Aguero, totti, Ibrahimovic etc to name a few who all seam to have become bulkier as they've got older and I don't mean larger. The muscle tone almost becomes artificial.
I just think its rife particularly in Spain and Italy regarding Europe. Blatter and co must keep it absolutely quiet whilst they love the fact that Barca, Madrid and Classico carry such a weight worldwide as they are trying to ensure sponsorship and global deals grow against other sports to line their own pockets. I'm also convinced even as jonty possibly points too that British clubs are treated harshly as they don't like the power of the FA and particularly Spanish and German clubs and to a lesser extent Italian clubs are shown favouritism to keep them involved at the highest level without going to an alternative/breakaway European league/tournament.
Blatter and co need only have a conversation with their head of refereeing (who incidentally is the ref who sent off RVP for arsenal against Barca when arsenal got back in the game)" look, you need to make sure that you consider decisions carefully considering we want Barca, Real Madrid, bayern, inter, juventus etc in the latter stages. We wouldn't want it to effect your role as a referee would we?"
For example. Probably have this conversation all season every season I'm sure of it.

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Terrific post Supasub.

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Discussion #10445Talk Sense

27 Oct 2013 10:25:13
9/11 cover up story is so pathetic, so so bad, is there any one left who still believes that it was 'planes'?

Aron

 

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Yes there are people all around the world who still believe including probably most of the population of the United States.

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Supasub you would be surprised, for instance they done a poll in new york about 9/11 and it was 60/40 that the government were not telling them everything, don't forget mainstream media would never put that a majority of people thought 9/11 being an inside job.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, but there is a world of difference between what actually happened on 911 and the government not telling people everything they know about 911.
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I think if I can remember edd the poll was on the line of "do you think our government is hiding major facts about 9/11? even if part of the 60% do not think there government was not involved, it still makes people question what they are getting told which can only be good.
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28 Oct 2013 08:55:42
How ridiculous, it's clear that when the massive jumbo jet hit the buildngs steal beams and the fuel warped them, the sheer weight of the building came Down, boom boom boom as the top crushed down and eliminated the rest of the building.

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frankyscouser
Just as ridiculous as a plane doing that to the building put out of all that destruction and a pristine passport survivors the carnage.
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Discussion #10444Talk Sense

26 Oct 2013 23:01:29
Ed mate, could you please check for my posts please, I have posted 4 times and nothing has come through, please reply

Garry

 

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Discussion #10443Talk Sense

26 Oct 2013 10:29:54
Irish Police (Garda Siochana) took two children of Roma ethnicity from their parents this week because people were suspicious that the children didn't look enough like their parents because they were blonde. DNA tests quickly revealed that there was no case to answer, and the children were returned to their parents.

But at least now you know, if your kids don't look like you they can be taken from you in your own home in Ireland, just because of a whispering campaign by nosey unintelligent neighbours.

I hope the parents sue for all they can.

Ryan.

 

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That's the future or the present if we let it!
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The Roma have had worse things done to them for a few centuries now.
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