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Post · p1 · 26 Nov 2017 19:41

26 Nov 2017 19:24:23
Hi ed pretty sure you don\'t believe about flat earth. Neither do I but every now and then I watch a video which gets me thinking. I\'ve now seen a few about fake direct flights which either get cancelled or no plane or passengers can be found at airports. Just wondered what your thoughts and anyone else\'s was regarding this matter and flight paths which don\'t make any sense on a globe.

 

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Reply · hsf · 18 Aug 2017 21:48
18 Aug 2017 18:27:19
People get this misconception on what CGI means when NASA are referring to it. The abbreviation is \"Computer Generated Image\" and given that most telescopes these days are \"digital\" telescopes, all images will be computer generated.
I think that should also cover the Galileo satellite too.

The telescope will take around 20,000 images of a single piece of sky, the data is sent to the computer and the computer reconstructs the image from the coding used by the telescope.

As for saying that Hubble or any other satellite telescope has never broken is just an outright lie who ever told you that. There have been several \"repair missions\" since it\'s launch in 1991. One thing to mention about space, is you don\'t need any tools to put two bits of metal together. Because space is a vacuum, there is no air buffer between two said bits of metal. Therefore you get a cold fusion reaction which makes the metal stick.

There is a website which tracks all of the space debris and has an almost real time update sequence.

Here is an image:


Yes, it\'s bloody disgusting to see all that waste out in space!
But this is why you have \"launch windows\" for space flights, it\'s not only about the optimal conditions, but it\'s about where the space debris is also.

The Van Allen belt is a tough thing to get through without issues. But it\'s not about the amount of radiation, it\'s about the length of time you spend in said radiation.
Take Chernobyl for example, you can go right up to power station itself in a hazmat suit for around 15 minutes before you start to get sick, or suffer any long term issue\'s. After that, you\'ll probably have to spend a lot of time in recovery, as the radiation levels are comparable to an extinction event.

I\'m not an astrophysicist either, I just have a very keen curiosity for all things space. I\'ve read multiple theories and multiple scientific journals on lots of different subjects, through this I come to my own conclusion using my own logic and reason.

And by the way, the reason people get mad at the Flat Earth theory is because in their eyes (and mine too) when confronted with evidence such as constellations and time zones (which would be VERY different if the Earth was flat) the theory becomes preposterous.

For example:
Get a flat surface that you can lift up and rotate a torch around it, you\'ll see that the face of the paper lights up all at once. If the Earth was flat and it takes 7 minutes (approx) for the light to travel 93 million miles to Earth, then why does it take 8 hours for light from the sun to get from the UK to California?

And why do we see different constellations in the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern? This 100% could not happen if the Earth was flat. Those are the two biggest holes in the Flat Earth theory in my opinion.

I would like to say that I don\'t mean to come across as rude, arrogant or up myself with these statements. I am of the opinion that you are more than entitled to believe what you feel is right, that\'s total cool. It\'s just nice to have a counter argument, just in case. As many smart men have said, curiosity is a sign of intelligence.
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Reply · hsf · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
18 Aug 2017 02:40:11
My opinion of flat Earth is easy to find on the forums, but to cut it short I don\'t believe in it at all, if you\'d like to see why, you can see it in the search function, it should be pretty easy to find. ^_^

On NASA and all things space, I think we went to the moon, I think a lot of the evidence to suggest we haven\'t is easily explained, however there are definitely some anomalies and questions that do need answering.

Can I ask, CTR why you think the stuff from Hubble etc is all lies?
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Post · CTR · 17 Aug 2017 20:09

17 Aug 2017 19:22:14
Hello again guys and gals.

So recently I have really started looking into this flat earth. While I understand most will deride me I really think it exposes a lot of theories passed off as facts.

But one thing I really believe after looking into it is that we can\'t go out of earth\'s orbit.

The moon missions are fairytale stuff imo.

What do u guys think?

 

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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 23:55
12 Aug 2017 00:10:27
That makes me very glad Ed!

Southampton87, are you deliberately trying to trigger me? :D lol flat earth, makes me so mad that intelligent people, with logic and reason being the backbone of their well being, believe in the horse rubbish that is Flat Earth.

On a sidenote - these guys are 100% not human.
https://youtu.be/J91Lo1wTR1A
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 21:33
11 Aug 2017 22:21:16
Sirius B orbits Sirius (the Dog star), Sirus is the brightest star in the night sky with a luminosity magnitutde of -1.46 (I had to look the number up), followed by Alpha Carinae and later in the year, Polaris. Don\'t forget Betelgeuse, Eta Carinae and Alderbaran.

I am completely open to being wrong on the Binary star system, as it would answer a lot of questions, but raise even more. But this theory is supported by Santos Bonacci and he\'s a psuedo-science muppet, who supports Flat Earth theories.
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Post · TTTS · 17 Nov 2016 17:45

17 Nov 2016 18:44:42
Arguments for and against flat earth. Earth curvature and the Suez Canal?
\"The distance between the Red Sea at Suez and the Mediterranean Sea is 100 statute miles, the datum line of the Canal being 26 feet below the level of the Mediterranean, and is continued horizontally the whole way from sea to sea, there not being a single lock on the Canal, the surface of the water being parallel with the datum line. It is thus clear that there is no curvature or globularity for the whole hundred miles between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea; had there been, according to the Astronomic theory, the middle of the Canal would have been 1,666 feet higher than at either end, whereas the Canal is perfectly horizontal for the whole distance. The Great Canal of China, said to be 700 miles in length, was made without regard to any allowance for supposed curvature, as the Chinese believe the Earth to be a Stationary Plane. I may also add that no allowance was made for it in the North Sea Canal, or in the Manchester Ship Canal, both recently constructed, thus clearly proving that there is no globularity in Earth or Sea, so that the world cannot possibly be a Planet. \" -David Wardlaw Scott, \"Terra Firma\" (134)
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Water on the canals don\'t give out any feeling of straightness or slope of the bed. You need to consider \"dry\", underwater road or railway tunenls Like the \"Chunnel\" (English Channel Tunnel) .
You didn\'t mention the 54 km long Seikan tunnel* between the main island Honshu and the next largest Hokkaido Island, in Japan. It has a 12% gradient at both ends and one side has a further 3% till the midpoint where the water can flow to, but doesn\'t as that would submerge the tunenl.
You have also forgotten the planned Tsushima tunnel between Japan and Korea that was made to be a straight line and not horizontal (aligned to the gravitational equi-potential that is the Earth curvature without mountains and troughs, made possible in tunneling) which is tangential to the global surface everywhere. Its central point hence dips towards the Earth centre. Cars hurtle down the slope to the mid point and then have to climb up thence to the other end. Only a laser beam can set the straightness of the path and not a spirit leve, l that rides on the equipotential surface. A spirit level shows the dip to the centre that might puzzle a novice.
In the canals you mentioned if the bed is a geometric (Euclidean) straight line nothing happens as water, like in the Oceans flows over such troughs. Have you wondered - Pacific Ocean bed is a curvature too.
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Reply · football-crown Ed007 · 14 Oct 2016 05:09
14 Oct 2016 01:53:16
Stars are just like holes in a tent roof is a particular favourite, Rian lol
I\'m quite open to all sorts of nonsense I readdon the internet at 2 o\'clock in the morning but the flat earth stuff is miles out.
Don\'t they say that Antartica is the outer edge of earth but that the flat earth goes on indefinitely?
I look on things like the flat earth stuff as a distraction allowed to snowball to get people looking away from real issues and problems. And that\'s from someone that believes in Heaven and Hell. :-D.
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Reply · Rian · 13 Oct 2016 21:31
13 Oct 2016 22:20:40
It\'s great fun reading the FAQ\'s on the flat earth society website. They\'re completely bonkers, but I love them anyway.
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Reply · muscatred · 13 Oct 2016 16:48
13 Oct 2016 16:49:00
There\'s a direct flight from Santiago in Chile to Sydney in Australia that takes just under 13 hours. On a flat earth these are two cities are on opposite sides on the disc approximately 28,000km apart (compared to to 11,300km on a globe) . For that flight to be possible on a flat earth the plane would have to fly far further than the published range of any commercial aircraft and reach speeds close to Mach 2, its route would also take it close to the North Pole instead of across the South Pacific. You can be pretty confident the world\'s not flat.
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Reply · TheBlueman8 · 13 Oct 2016 16:46
13 Oct 2016 15:40:08
yea i\'m thinking more that way tbh, but its intriguing to think that there is a theory of a flat earth or how it would be possible.
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Post · TheBlueman8 · 13 Oct 2016 13:44

13 Oct 2016 13:52:28
Been looking at a lot of stuff recently about the flat earth theory and was wondering what people\'s thoughts are?

is it flat, sphere or are we living in a simulated world?

does science confirm that its spherical and impossible to be flat or is the science created to give the answers that keeps us in that way of thinking?

has anyone ever get that feeling/ idea that somethings just are not or could not be happening and then your mind just re corrects?

may sound like i\'m mad lol but just a few thoughts recently.

 

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Reply · gibsy21 · 04 Aug 2016 08:14
04 Aug 2016 09:12:49
A flat Earth is Gids smoking gun. Proof of intelligent design, and making it all but impossible to carry out the aliens are God plan I believe the are about to drop. If Earth is proven to be a plain, then u have to assume things like the firmament are true, I. e the near death experience people have of ascending through water. Now I'm not 100% of the belief, however the people that disseminate the info to the masses ad nauseum have been proven to be corrupt.

We have been conditioned to believe that the world is a globe, by the same people and same techniques we deride on this site. In essence, those who mindlessly bash the theory are perpetuating a paradoxical irony.
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Reply · hsf · 03 Aug 2016 22:48
03 Aug 2016 23:46:01
The man who started globe theory was a Zionist apparently. The theory is about 500 years old and is not 100 percent proven
Flat earth is how it was believe for thousands of years

It states in the Koran that the Earth is spherical in shape and that the Earth revolves around the central star (The Sun) and the Moon orbits the Earth.

That's 2000 years old.


The Sumerians were very good astronomers and had marked the likes of Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus and Mercury, they also believed that the Earth was spherical.

That's 10,000-25,000 years ago.


I'm pretty sure that they were not Zionists 10,000 years ago.
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Reply · southampton87 · 03 Aug 2016 22:18
03 Aug 2016 23:05:43
Hsf
I have seen that the reason we only see one side of the moon is becuase it is like or similar in shape to a orange cut in half
The flat side faces us whilst the heavy side spins outward and that is with there multi million pound telescopes.

If we only have magnetic field becuase the molten hot stuff in the middle spins, why do no magnets on our planet use this type of operation?

Anyway, if you read what I wrote you would see I said I don't think we live on a flat plane. I do think our planet is a lot bigger or different than they tell us the measure is.

The other post was a joke And the joke was look how angry people get when you say it's flat lol.

The man who started globe theory was a Zionist apparently. The theory is about 500 years old and is not 100 percent proven
Flat earth is how it was believe for thousands of years
And we could try say
Well we are technically advance that years ago
But were we?
We do not truthfully know
Everybody can have a theory whether it is real true or just bull we will not truthfully know ourselfs unless you dedicate your time and life proving otherwise

Satellite images
You mean them strips of something a computer bangs together for us
So we feel we can see it and believe it all
And not look and test for yourself
Can you look up where the van Allen belts are
Then look where satellites are meant to operate
Airplane fly round taking multiple pictures
Does the same thing at less cost
Look at the size of a jumbo jet
Look at the size of the gold tin thing they call satellites
A plane flys a lot lower but looks like a dot
And a smaller Satellite fly a lot higher but also looks like a dot
nasa the lot of they tell so many lies, You would be mad to believe everything

Has anyone been able to look at a Satellites flying past through a telescope or the space station?
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Reply · GracieBhoy · 03 Aug 2016 16:38
03 Aug 2016 17:29:06
I understand what you mean hsf.

Now i'm not a flat earther in any way but how do we actually know that the earth is round?

I read a lot about tesla and he was a genius. He didn't agree with the theory of gravity at all.

Even with einsteins theory of relativity he said there was glaring errors in his work.
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Reply · southampton87 · 03 Aug 2016 15:00
03 Aug 2016 15:56:55
Wot the same curve we are to small to see
And cannot prove
Just a fake nasa picture to go by?
How did they get past the van Allen belt?
They say it a problem now and no man has travelled past
Ever
So how did they go to the moon
I don't think personally we are on a flat plane
But I would be happy to say it is
Drastically different to what they tell us
But to the original poster
Sea level is a good one
Also a 1000 years old map apparently just found
NATO have the flat earth map as the emblem
And all navy use the flat earth map to navigate
As we all know see and can prove
Water surface does not bend
But we are on a globe and it's coverd in 2/ 3 water
Try get water to stick on a spinning ball yourself
As for gravity
The only people speaking about being able to prove its actually real are cern
Space travel is fake.
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Reply · hsf · 03 Aug 2016 03:56
03 Aug 2016 04:52:35
Flat Earth theorists are fun to debate with. Because they always get mad once you mention the curvature of the Earth.
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Post · TTTS · 02 Aug 2016 20:08

02 Aug 2016 20:49:50
Just to open a discussion, any flat earthers on the site. If so what swings it for you?

 

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