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Discussion #302Talk Sense

12 Oct 2011 14:42:57
I was just wondering what all of you guys think of the Roswell conspiracy?

to me, I believe it was former Nazi technology that had been used to create whatever crashed. It's common knowledge that nazi scientists were trying to create flying disks, it's also common knowledge that they had some sort of Bell which vanished along with several scientists after the war.

one of the scientists who was later moved to the USA claimed that the leap forward in technology (let's face it, without the Nazi's our civilisation wouldn't be as advanced as it is, the V2 rocket for example) was all down to Alien interaction, I don't know whether they found something specifically or they were contacted but this scientist was hell bent that they had contact, so with that said, I believe the Roswell crash was a german designed and american manufactured flying disk which crashed.

I guess i'm asking two questions here;

What happened exactly at Roswell?

And what was the Nazi bell for? (some believe, that it was used to transport these scientists to another planet - as absurd as it sounds, i've heard weirder thing).

ED's, Posters, anyone. Roswell, what happened? what was the Nazi Bell?

alienufotruth.com/the-nazi-bell-craft-reality-or-myth/

roswellufocrash.com/ (if you've got a spare few hours i'd recommend watching the video, it's quite intriguing).

The Moon. {Ed033's Note - This is Dr. Joseph P. Farrell's theory and he appears to be so erudite that I wouldn't want to argue with him over the facts. it is quite strange that it happened on or around July 4th 1947. Richard Hoagland talks about the significance of 19.47 and David Flynn does as well. David Flynn has some interesting presentations on youtube. here is one for example - www.youtube.com/watch?v=axRecXZHCeQ

 

Cheers ed, I'll watch it now, what is your personal belief on the Roswell incident and the Nazi Bell?

the Moon. {Ed033's Note - Well here is more info about the Nazi Bell, a Project Camelot interview with Igor Witkowski - www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKYo5jJAkg

I have no doubt that the Nazis could have developed such a high end technology device as the bell that could do everything Dr. Jospeh P. Farrell says. I don't have much to say about Roswell now as there is too much conflicting data about it. The fact that there is so much conflicting data means to me that there has been as very successful cover up of what really happened. I do think that it was not a balloon, I think it was a flying machine that was higher tech than the white technology that the public know of. I think there were bodies recovered but don't know how many. I do not think the bodies recovered were dummies but do not know whether they were human or not. I really do not know what happened at Roswell.}
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Welcome Moon looked at the bell stuff, certainly very strange.

Ed watching your links now will get back to you.

mort {Ed033's Note - Here is a project camelot interview with Dr. Joseph P. Farrell - www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU
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Ok cheers ed, in a bit of rush tonight so will try and finish them all tomorrow mort
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Cheers Mort.

I have to admit there is a lot of crazy stuff going on.

Ed, I was watching the hunt for el chupacabra last night, fact or fiction? (In your opinion).

The Moon. {Ed033's Note - If you think the chapacabras story is weird then take a look at what happened at the Skin Walker ranch in Utah - www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q1UQIQ5kWA.

According to witnesses the chupacabras is a non recognised creature that sucks the blood out of its victims. Sounds like an ET creature to me if it is real.}
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Ah, The Moon, a fellow United fan with a love for the bizarre!

I'm all about the cryptozoology mate! Chupacabras - the descriptions are FAR too consistent to be completely false, IMO. However, whenever one been has supposedly been captured, even I can see from the photos that it's a hairless / scabies infected coyote or dog.

But the description doesn't match a dog in the slightest, so I do suspect there is something out there....if I had to guess myself, I'd be going for an undiscovered giant kind of vampire bat or similar.

THink about it - bloodsucking, it can fly (whereas Chupa is said to be able to shoot off into the air/over fences in a split-second...maybe the wings were too dark to be visible?), quite hairy, mammal-like head, scary fangs.

So my theory is an unknown large predatory bat.

RED_SKY
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Discussion #301Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 20:22:21
The US authorities say they have foiled an "Iranian-backed" plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador and to bomb the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington DC.

And so it begins the next wave of war mongering, the people are starting to wake up and realize things are very wrong seen by the demonstrations in America, fox news is trying its best to ridicule these people standing up for what they believe in so i urge you to take notice as the day will come soon for us in this country to do the same. And i don't mean the moronic rioting seen the other month, but showing the people responsible for the currant climate of the world we will take no more.

The powers that be will start another war in Iran it has been inevitable for so many years now, but this time it is very important you don't get whipped up in to another frenzy of hating every Muslim in the street. They employ divide and conquer to over power the masses using their tool religion to turn the average man on the street against each other. Its vital we all see through the lies and stand together.

always a red

 

A few comments on this:

1. If you watch the news coverage on RT (Russia Today) you will get far more news on the Wall Street and other cities protests in the US. Not particularly balanced coverage but interesting.

2. A war in or against Iran is inevitable in my opinion and to be honest is long overdue, approximately 10 years overdue. Yes that does equate to the amount of time we have been in Afghanistan. I for one would be much more inclined to a war against the Saudi's but lets face it that is never going to happen.

3. Islam like almost every other religion has it's good elements and it's not so good elements. I don't think it is any better or worse than the others. The demonisation of any religion is bound to cause radicalism in its adherents.

Just my thoughts.
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Well said Always a red . This ˜Iranian terror plot'
was no doubt conceived of in the offices of the
CIA , i heard it on BBC 5 live last night with no
questioning of pentagon's version of events.
Boycott the BBC (MOTD allowed ) watch RT instead.
Cheers
JR
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On your point 2 they had to go into Afghanistan first due to its strategic value and now they need to clear a safe passage between Afghanistan and Iraq. The propaganda campaign against Iran will intensify causing people to cry out for something to be done, only this time i don't think they need to use a terrorist attack as a reason for war.
I feel America is trying to gain a strong foothold in the middle east not just for oil but to use as a striking point against China when they start defaulting on the debt payments.

always a red
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I'd just like to asj "just my thoughts" on why he thinks a war against Iran is long overdue....
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Funny that the last we heard from Afterdinnermint was when half the UN walked out on his speech about 11/9/2001

Len
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Discussion #300Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 19:36:00
Check out Freedom is not just a 7 letter word by Veronica Chapman. Can download it.
Best book I have ever read.
All you will ever need to know about money and also your right under common law.
VERY INTERESTING!!
I urge every one of you to read this book!

JQuan

 

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Discussion #299Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 14:21:33
Can someone explain dark matter to me please - read it on google and its done my head no favours

 

Yes , god because i dont think anyone else has a clue........lfc
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My head hurts.............. ;-)

Padawan {Ed007's Note - I only lasted five minutes reading it as well.}
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No scientists actually know what is is
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Its matter and its dark....
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In situations like this, turn to Sir Patrick Moore for a more palatable explaination of the concept.

Digging for dark matter. www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/realmedia/sky_at_night_apr04.ram

Glorious Galaxies.
www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/science/space/realmedia/skyatnight_may06?size=16x9&bgc=000000&nbram=1&bbram=1

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Discussion #298Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 11:40:41
to the guy asking why they didn't capture bin laden how do we know he's dead? They never released the photo's. They supposedly buried him at sea. Easy to fake. For all we know he's at a secure compound singing like a canary. Imagine the media and public if they'd announced they'd captured him. Haven't a couple of top terrorists been killed in recent weeks? Some in pakistan and the guy in yemen? They'll suck his brains out and quietly off him. Or maybe as the ed said he was cia and it was a rescue mission and he's being debriefed

 

Equally as probable, he has been dead for a number of years.
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Or that he is a paid American agent that has been "retired". {Ed033's Note - In 2007 just before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto said in an interview with David Frost, that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiUjhsEAK4&feature=related

In addition someone faked a picture of Osama Bin Laden dead in 2011 which was broadcasted on Pakistani television and shown by certain British newspapers as genuine - www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake
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{Ed033's Note - In July 2001 before 9/11, Bin Laden was in a Dubai hospital with kidney trouble where an alleged CIA agent met with him - www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism.

Also, Barack Obama's popularity was the lowest possibly of any President in recent history just before the alleged shooting of Osama bin laden. The shooting was possibly an attempt to boost Obama's popularity. If that shooting in 2011 was real they would have shown bin laden's body I think.}
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As i said maybe he was cia, and they had to retrieve him to debrief him. {Ed033's Note - I don't know but my guess is that osama bin laden died a number of years ago and that is why we never saw his body after they allegedly shot him in 2011. Bin laden can't be used as the bogey man again so what use is he to the CIA now assuming you are correct?}
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Ok Ed 4 theories then.

1. What happened was true and he was tracked to Pakistan and killed.

2. He was tracked to pakistan, captured, with a fake kill notice, and since been interrogated and disposed of.

3. He was a cia operative who needed to be retrieved and debriefed so they could get his intell.

4. He actually died years ago and this was covered up.

End of the day i doubt we'll ever know the truth and you can make a good case for all of 2,3, or 4, they are all possible or even some sort of combo. {Ed033's Note - OK, I plump for number 4.}
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Discussion #297Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 11:23:08
has anyone seen the obama video on you tube where "yes we can" when played backwards sounds like "thank you satan" the first two words do sound like thank you not sure on the third word. Freaky though listening to him saying it then the crowd then you hear it backwards. How does that work its really bizarre. Freaky if true!

 

Here is the video, have a watch and let me know what you think.

youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs
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Ok had a look found couple more

youtube.com/watch?v=9NUhkWFsatU&feature=related
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Bonkers!

If you play Black Sabbath at 78 speed you'll see god!...Sorry couldn't resist, old Cheech and Chong gag.

Although the subtitle translation is a little ambiguous in the clip from the link in the post above, it is quite un-nerving.

Paragon
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Paragon, i tripped over that first video the other day whilst looking for something. Had a watch and slept on it for a couple of days. To be honest it creeped me out a little. As i said in my first post i'm not entirely sure on the 3rd word but the first 2 are "thank you" hearing him say it then the crowd repeating it back is really creepy. I was just wondering if this was some sort of bizarre conincidence or if it was something more. thank you for viewing.
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Should be able to test it myself / yourself and see if its coincedence or if you need choice wording and phrasing.

Still, the demonic undertone of this reverse speech stuff has certainly whet my appetite.

Paragon
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Discussion #296Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 09:23:16
Seen a great YouTube conference who was the only person (up to now) who could prove with over thirty peices of documentation that he worked at area 51 (not bob lazar) I think hes name was ed fouche, he has said 90pc of ufo sightings are ours I won't spoil what he said about the rest of the stuff he said it is very interesting,would love any feedback of you guys, cheers franky scouser

 

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Discussion #295Talk Sense

11 Oct 2011 02:28:38
everyone should check out the video on youtube- who controls the world illuminati,jesuits,bilderberg,church,skull and bones,religion,the pope, a very good video about 43 mins or so..............lfc

 

Cheers mate I'll check this out, Raz
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Discussion #294Talk Sense

10 Oct 2011 19:08:08
If you listen to `Joe Rogan`s` podcast he has a fairly balanced view on Alex jones, in as much as he`s like the American David Ike.
For instance if he goes to the bar to get a beer, he is convinced the bar tender is working for the CIA & he has seen black helicopters overhead, having said that I do believe Alex Jones` rants have more than a little substance to them. Bin Laden being dead for years before the `compound in Pakistan`double tap was announced. In my personal opinion, why would you not take `the worlds most wanted man` in for interrogation when he may hold vital clues to future attacks?

Makes one wonder....

 

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Discussion #293Talk Sense

10 Oct 2011 18:33:21
Nice to see that other people are seeing through Alex Jones, he
steals other people's theories and connections that they have made
and claims them as his own. He also he NO idea about politics
(he claims that Noam Chomsky works for the CIA, a man who has
exposed the system for 5 decades ) or the world outside of the USA.
He gets alot spot-on (well someone else does) but adds alot of s**te
to it. The reason he goes along fairly un-scathed is because he makes
the rest of us look like idiots.
Rant over.
Now go and watch Rob Newmans 'A history of oil' on youtube .
Cheers
JR

 

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Discussion #292Talk Sense

10 Oct 2011 17:52:04
Some potentially interesting links ;-)

naturalnews.com/032258_economic_collapse_2012.html

theintelhub.com/2011/10/07/the-top-100-statistics-about-the-collapse-of-the-economy-that-every-american-voter-should-know/

Would be good to know what your thoughts are.

Raz

 

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Discussion #291Talk Sense

09 Oct 2011 20:04:16
I urge everybody to watch Megiddo. You can get it off the torrent sites. It comes in two parts and is very informative. It is from a Christian perspective and explains their take on the world from beginning to end. If anyone here is serious about finding truth i suggest they give it a look. I've researched conspiracies for over ten years and it fits in with that research very well.

 

"Christian" and "finding the truth" in the same post ?

Look at the teachings of christianity . 8000yr old planet , a virgin that gives birth , Noah . You cannot get further from the truth .

Please folks , The bible is a 3rd rate , bronze age myth , written by semi literate tribesmen .
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Please folks , The bible is a 3rd rate , bronze age myth , written by semi literate tribesmen .

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This is a conspiracies website. I believe there is a conspiracy that's been perfectly executed and it spurpose and end product is to make you think exactly what you just wrote here.
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I dont think the bible texts are written by semi literate tribesmen ,whatever it all means , it is well put together and interesting , from the bloodline thing to god and the devil , the real question is who is the bad guy , look in to it and ask how many people does god kill and how many ,-the devil , and how can a all loving god send children into never ending torment to burn , theres something very evil about that dont you think..........lfc
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Perfectly executed conspiracy ?

Do explain , in your words , not a link to someone elses


jim88
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Christianity and the bible are not the way to the truth...There was a small story in the 1st palm and it said something along the lines of A man, his daugher and the males friend where having dinner when a group of men burst into his home and wanted to have sex with the mans friend, so he casually said please dont sleep with my friend have my daughter instead...NICE Parent of the year award Thats why there has been a lot of changes in the bible to role with the times it's all rubbish
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