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Discussion #9804Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 14:31:00
The eu referendum and its aftermath has allowed a big story about sir clement freund being exposed as a paedophile to be swept under the carpet, apparently he had links with the mccanns, he also shared a office at one time with Cyril smith, added to this "KITTY" was in portugual at the same time, as maddie which leads us to the mysterious death of cilla black, what had she found out and who was she going to expose? throw in the revelation that kate talks about maddies genitalia in her book and the fact that Gerry's friend was airbrushed out of a crimewatch reconstruction and the plot thickens, it is becoming more apparent that Maddie was used as a sex toy, and that something went wrong and she got killed, 2 things that cannot be ignored for me 1} 2 corpse sniffing dogs detected a body,2} the poor little girl was surrounded by paedophiles and we know that paedophiles are experts at covering there tracks, especially when you have friends in high places.

 

southampton87
26 Jun 2016 14:52:47
Mate I agree with what you say and now I'm going to start digging into this and no doubt most will
But can you please do me you and every body
A favour
Please don't refer to innocent helpless children as toys
I know you didn't mean it like that
But that is the difference between me you and people on hear
To the pigs that think they can do this
But good digging mate keep it up

And I agree it makes you feel sick mate.
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kingkenny7
26 Jun 2016 15:26:38
my apologies southanpton mate, sadly though to these monsters that's all they think children are, no offence meant to you and other posters on here who are parents.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 16:03:23
I knew that was the angle you where coming
From mate
No offence taken at all just you know you have more respect for yourself
Than to speak the lines the twisted knew
But I've looked into this a bit
And you are seemingly quite right
Also the fact Mitchell emailed police 3 years ago and it got ignored
Backs up the fact jerry had some one protecting him
Also one of jerry asscociates where air brushed out of a picture
Explains perfectly well why Portuguese police said
Peadophiles are a British problem
And I'm starting to think similar
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LAVERS
26 Jun 2016 16:19:45
Always thought the mccanns killed there daughter, but never thought it was to do with paedos.

Thought they may have given her to many pills or something.

Always thought if you where going to thetrouble of kidnapping a child a there was 3 there that you'd take them all.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 16:57:35
Mate that is the line I was thinking
They where doctors so thought they new they could sedate her but when't wrong
Since then I have found that
One of the biggest rings
Are some of our sir and lords
And people within power in our govt
And what spelt it out to me was
A judge called judge pope
Got cuaght with indecent child images on his home computer
He said I was studying a case
viewing one image would be plenty to make u sick to the stomach
Got no charge
I used to have respect for these persons
Now when you realise what they are
It just makes you feel anger.
{Ed033's Note - There are 6 excellent films about Madeleine McCann by Richard D. Hall - madeleine films, which exposes the cover up.
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Discussion #9782Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 13:07:27
Has anyone actually looked at the text of this petition?

To me it seems to be utter bull. Apologies but I can't think of any other way to phrase it.

"We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum. "

Surely you can't bring in a rule to affect an already carried out referendum. Only future referendums.

KimPhilby
26 Jun 2016 14:58:49
And apparently now its being investigated for fraud.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 14:04:19
Good spot kim,
And to think papers and news are talking about it. Says they hope we are all thick
Or they haven't looked into it themselves.
{Ed033's Note - Most everyone is so dumbed down that they can get away with anything.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 16:07:34
Sorry to say I've seen it with my own eyes
With my brother
Worse of all this proves school is no good
He left school with A grades
But god he is clueless lol.
{Ed033's Note - So many adults have child like minds who believe that government is this magical, divine entity that can't be questioned and must be obeyed at all cost and can never have anything but people's best interests at heart.
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hsf
26 Jun 2016 16:15:56
Please forgive my ignorance Kim, but what is being investigated for fraud? The Vote?
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KimPhilby
26 Jun 2016 18:15:15
No the online petition for a second referendum. 4 Chan whoever they are have admitted rigging the petition.
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Discussion #9884Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 07:52:38
It feels like a civil war is gona break out amongst the in/ out voters in this country. what's even more scary is the thought that all the younger generations voted to stay in it seems, seems like the brainwashing propoganda has worked all these years. People just don't know how to think for themselves, they've had everthing handed to them on a plate and no one learns or needs to questions things now.

 

Onceared
26 Jun 2016 09:33:30
The more worrying thing is that they also see themselves as more deserving of a vote then others, my generation haven't had to go to war, we have practically been given a university education. Yet for some reason we think that the elder generation have voted out just to screw us over, the elder generation that will have had kids and grandkids? Great logic there!
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HERBIE
26 Jun 2016 09:45:57
The people are playing right into there hands.
Divide and Conquer.
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HP
26 Jun 2016 09:58:40
Also, from that corporation, the BBC, 'the BBC understands that HSBC will move up to 1000 staff from the UK to France if the UK leaves the single market' That word 'if' The truth about about the EU etc must be exposed this week from reputable persons.
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LAVERS
26 Jun 2016 12:15:12
Exactly HP "if" but that could be 2 years away until leaving the single market happens. No need what so ever for any large companies to be making comments like that.

Moody's downgrading our credit forecast to negative straight after the vote when nothing should be altering.

Anything to try and get them that voted out to change there mind when the next referendum happens.
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Onceared
26 Jun 2016 13:06:55
Lavers, companies alter and move operations all the time, they just decided to publicise this instance as it adds to the argument.
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Discussion #5281Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 00:34:06
Ian R. Crane talk on the EU - The Plan to destroy the UK.

 

southampton87
26 Jun 2016 14:12:17
Blair
Mandelson
Cameron
Sutherland
All despicable persons.
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Discussion #9650Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 21:05:44
Why am I getting the nasty feeling that this "stall"by Cameron on article 50 is nothing more than a tool if you like to give the media time to fill the populace with fear, so we see every fluctuation in world markets and have them jumped on and used by remainers to force outers to change there minds, and force through a 2nd referendum, of course the Eu elite can't be seen to be behind all of this, hence juncker and his cronies saying publicly that they want the process starting immediately, this is all part of an elite deception I'm sure, and my fear is the sheep will fall for it and take there eyes off the ball.

 

southampton87
26 Jun 2016 01:34:23
You have got to look at it the other way
If we go sprinting into Brussels with page in hand
They will know we are desperate
But if we take a week or two they will then be dying
To put it to bed and in the long run get the better deal quicker
You don't want to produce hand to early
You want to see were the other is aiming first
There is also a number of ways to do this
Artical 50
Or at the end of two years deal will stop any how
And I read something about Heath did put in some
Deal to do what is needed straight away
But to act straight of is no sense for us
Remember
No matter what the leave champaign said
They are not govt and do not have the power

Also benn has been sacked by Corbyn
And lib democrate ain't so democratic
Considering they are in the running to put us back into Europe

Also it's in Scotland's interest too becuase before we pull
Out
If they can gain there independence
Before we exit
They do not have to re negotiate re entry.
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jimmyjones
26 Jun 2016 04:05:47
Apparently they do have to renegotiate, according to msm anyway, sturgeon won't be a happy bunny'bless her.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 16:10:52
Best of wishes to them
Bit of a blow out though a.
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TheBlueman8
26 Jun 2016 16:12:00
sturgeon is a vile piece of work. wants to gain independence then give that away by being controlled again by the eu.

she seems to forget that the union is still in force and the eu will treat scotland the same as eng, wales, ni. ie Britain

the sad thing is that if we voted to stay in the out voters would have accepted it and moved on but look at the in voters now. they think its the end of the world and the must get a re vote or a new vote

respect the decision, open your eyes and think to the future for our next generation.
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LAVERS
26 Jun 2016 16:32:39
I'd have thought scotland would have to renagotiate as they will hardly be getting the same deals as us.

On there own it's a whole new ball game.
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Discussion #5280Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 20:21:40
David Icke - How Public Education Controls People's Minds.

 

southampton87
26 Jun 2016 17:16:33
This is real truth as to why humanity has not moved forward in generations. Also why so many are still 'asleep'.
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Discussion #9649Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 19:51:45
Labour MP from London now telling mps to vote against brexit in Westminster, is this what these shameless b******s think about our democracy'vote for what you like as long as it fits in with our agenda.
Hopefully the self serving scumbag gets voted out in any coming elections, but I won't hold my breath in anticipation.
Would parliament really risk a backlash by pulling a stunt such as this?

 

Onceared
25 Jun 2016 20:09:18
The more this stuff comes out part me believe it was planned. If they get their second referendum and we remain. It will not be just an attempt to suppress leavers but also other countries that try to leave.
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Supasub
25 Jun 2016 23:53:26
I think if it happened there would be riots all over the place. The people of the countryside, fisherman, us racist old farts would go ballistic. You've still got a large population of london, Scotland etc who voted to leave.
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TheBlueman8
26 Jun 2016 16:14:54
agree to that supasub. if the 2nd ref goes ahead up here it will go the same way as it did the last time and sturgeon should go. i'm convinced its been rigged up here to get this reaction.
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Discussion #2096Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 14:29:50
Not posted for a very long time but the events of this week have offered the smallest glimmer of hope, even if it does seem it's going to be snatched away with a 2nd referendum.

I just can't see the 4th Reich letting us get away with throwing a spanner into the works, I watched the David Icke 'Brexit' reaction video on here and agree with almost all of it, no doubt the EU will offer us new terms tricking people into changing their mind and when we end up back in Europe they make an example of little Britain similar to the way they crippled Greece.

One frightening thing is the reaction of the PC controlled mainstream public, the way they have turned on the people with their eyes already open has shocked me, things are going to get a lot worse with no doubt another false flag attack.

 

{Ed033's Note - Unbelievable as it may seem what's happening right now could actually be the calm before the storm.
Onceared
25 Jun 2016 17:18:02
My Facebook wall has resembled the beginning of the apocalypse,

10 years of doom

I have lost faith in humanity

Thank you all you stupid racist fools for ruining the country

All the above are genuine quotes, personally I woke up this morning still had the roof over my head, food in the fridge and people I care about around me.

It saddens me people my age believe they are deserving and smarter then the 'elder generation' and there say matters more, it also saddens me that they can't see that what there reading is just to scare them further.
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KimPhilby
26 Jun 2016 00:28:03
As part of the older generation it saddens me. Naive fools.
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Discussion #9360Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 12:08:16
was a weird feeling last night with the events of yesterday, i have never seen facebook or twiiter in such a meltdown,

i hardly use facebook apart from to keep in touch with my eldest girl who is in austraila, but the referendum was on everyones mind, when i got asked by my eldest did i vote and what i voted then once i made it public, well the comments rolled in from every1, my youngest sister was very surprised also my middle daughter was in glastonbury (she voted in by postal vote)

well she was not happy and on twitter i have many people i chat to who are on the same wavelength but wanted in and made it known, people were turning on each other it was bitter at times.

so in a nutshell i had an uneasy sleep,
deep down i know i have made the right decision but trying to explain the bigger picture to other people is a waste of time, my close family know my beliefs about my awakening but i can sense doubts.

i have always said things have to get worse to get better and there is no doubt there is a power struggle between two elites in play, my fear was if we voted in the far right groups would have grown and got bigger and bigger, now who are all these groups going to blame about jobs or cuts? yes they will turn their anger on the elected group in power and rightly so.

for me yesterday was a political 9/11 as in deep down i never really thought we would vote out, i always thought it would be close but would remain and once i awoke to the news that cameron had gone and we was out, well i guess all you guys felt the same thing .

now its time to stand up, no one is saying this elite who wanted out are any better, because they are just as evil but now we can hold these people/ groups accountable and like the icke video said, it will not be easy it will be tough but hopefully my daughters in years time can see the bigger picture.

as john lennon once sang " power to the people " 👊.

 

{Ed033's Note - a power struggle between two negative agenda elites sounds much better for us than 1 negative agenda elite group powering forward their agenda at lightning speed.
southampton87
25 Jun 2016 14:20:44
Good post frankie
Do remember though my mate
Just ask what is their reason for wanting to remain in EU.
Because that is not the best option for Britain imo.

1. A clown said, we won't be able to play in Euro 2016
Well Russia and turkey are not members of EU.

2. We can't go on holidays
British people always had holidays before the EU.

3. Britain's border policy
Only a crack pot would argue we are not better doing it for ourselves
Spending our money same as above
Most of these younger generation do not know what is real in the world
Before ww2 do you think the adults listened to the silly kids when they cried about them leaving to fight;
NO they did not.
They did what is best for the youth. The youth need to see the world before they know what they talk about.

Have a chat and see why they think the EU is so good, because I have not met one person.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Jun 2016 18:24:53
Not all of Russia is even in Europe lol.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 15:01:31
liverpool is very multicultural mate which I am not knocking but I guess its a harder sell to vote to leave as the vote proved here 60 per cent wanted to remain .

like I said the main reason to vote to leave for me was
there are no excuses on who is to blame for jobs or working rights .
ukip blamed migrants
tories blamed benefit claimants and eu policies
so that will end in two years time.

i want accountability and there is no way in mind the elected government would have passed the buck about eu rules that would effected our lives.

yep edd very true, i have a gut feeling it was the monarchy bloodline elite having the power struggle with people connected with the bilderberg kabul,
johnson would not have the balls to go public unless he got the nod from above .

expect ken clark to go soon as well, he is not needed now by his bilderberg masters .
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 19:09:33
lol that's just wrong sanogo
They will be very angry with you lol.
{Ed033's Note - Apparently only 3% of the land mass of Turkey is in Europe.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 19:52:35
And that will please turkey ed lol.
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Discussion #10867Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 12:54:35
Ed033 Is there a chance the elites wanted this?

Tear Europe apart then put it back together so they can sell it back to us as something else for another 60 years?

 

{Ed033's Note - Who knows, we'll just have to see what happens, but it's likely that the people who think they are pretty high up in the scheme of things are as confused as we are on what's going on.
Onceared
25 Jun 2016 17:00:02
Interesting times, now just time to bring down the media! I know that won't happen but dreaming won't hurt.
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Discussion #11165Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 10:14:05
850,000 signatures on the petition calling for a 2nd referendum.

In 2008 Ireland rejected the Lisbon treaty, and was promptly told to go back and get it right next time. Which we did, after being threatened with all manner economic repercussions.

Democracy, EU style.

 

Onceared
25 Jun 2016 10:57:45
i hope there isn't a second, it will just create more division. The remain will rejoice, if they have a second we know the outcome, and leave will then stand up and be ridiculed for claiming democracy doesn't exist.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 11:44:03
On Rt news they have said Brussels have released a statement saying divorce will be sooner than later. If you removed London from the vote, 80 percent of England have voted out along with the loyal welsh. As a result France, Holland, Germany and two others are pushing and probably going to get a referendum.

Noway, Sweden, Iceland America BMW Audi
Have already spoken and said we will do trade
Australia will trade
China and japan will trade.

BBC will do nothing but cry the elite and there mouth pieces doing the bitchin for them. EU and the elite have been beaten
So will cry and fill our TV with program's to program you lol
It's a joke after that result they think this will work
Even Obama had to suck eggs and say we will always have a special relation
Who told him to do that?

Clearly they will now go to plan b
But hope we are leaving the EU.
{Ed033's Note - it's probable that RT news is a corrupt controlled opposition news outlet for people who have realised the main stream news is corrupt, exactly as UKIP is a corrupt controlled opposition party for people who have realised Conservative, Labour, Liberal, Green Party are corrupt.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Jun 2016 12:21:51
Do you think it's human nature to become corrupt ed?
{Ed033's Note - it probably is, but the 'divine' part us is possibly supposed to fight it, rise above it and remove it from our lives as best we can.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 13:36:56
human nature yes but I think threatened or blackmail is a bigger factor.

i was thinking what if I was in a position to make the world a safer better/ place.

would money motivate me to change my views and actions?
honestly hand on heart I do not think it would, I am not wealthy that is for sure and have gone thru many hardships like most so I do not think that would be a factor.

threatening not so much me but my family or loved ones, well that would be a factor and it would either do two things, fold or come out fighting, I like to think I would do the latter but I would be unsure, that is why I admire so much people who put everything on the line including their lives .
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KimPhilby
25 Jun 2016 13:55:52
If there was a second vote and remain wouldn't there just be a petition for another vote.
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Discussion #5279Talk Sense

24 Jun 2016 20:15:55
Brussels plans to create EU army was hidden from British voters until after EU referendum.

goo.gl/arZ28j

 

KimPhilby
24 Jun 2016 20:19:59
Some of it was leaked. Scary thought though.
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HP
24 Jun 2016 21:16:56
MSM still scare mongering, what's wrong with them.
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HP
24 Jun 2016 21:08:23
Also, is for for real. Petition calling for 2nd EU Referendum

goo.gl/4pkaz3

I hope not!
{Ed033's Note - It's real, they are already trying to get Parliament to discuss a 2nd EU referendum vote.
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TTTS
24 Jun 2016 22:43:05
Ok let's say there is s second ref, and there will be and IN do come out on top, they will, you can imagine the screams from the Democrats if the OUT camp asked for another ref. how dare the out camp dispute the democratic decision of the people.
It democracy when it suits and a spot dictatorship is needed when it doesn't.
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Mr.x
25 Jun 2016 00:07:41
Not even a day has passed this is just unreal, and if they get a 2nd its just going to make us look like fools.
{Ed007's Note - So what'll change, we already look like fools.}
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