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tinhead, how can u say it's not relevant about the age of consent when catholic priest's, which now must be numbering in the thousand's, have been caught raping and abusing children all over the world. I'm not anti catholic, ( i have lived in Ireland and spain and found the people in both country's brilliant ) and there is no way the same thing is not happening in other religions, but for it to be 12 in the first place is shocking. Masons are luciferian, so why is the most powerful lodge in the world situated in the Vatican( P2 ). Have a look on youtube at the present pope shaking Tony Blair hand, and tell me this is not a mason's hand shake. My opinion is that the catholic church is more than they are letting on.

Again i'm not having ago at catholic people, the 2 most decent thing's anyone has ever done for me was by catholic people and i will never forget that. Given that the new world order has just about taken over the world and are about to destroy religion as we know it and most are masons, there must be more to the catholic church than we know, or i Know at present. Anyone got any answers !

Science's aim is not to disprove God, it is to better understand the World and Universe around us. Just because something can not be disproved does not mean it might exist (Russell's Teapot is the classic example).

Further, something that is impossible to disprove must, by definition, have no observable influence on the Universe at any point in its past or future.

Rikki

Regarding "Ed033"'s mentioning of fused rocks (and mushroom clouds to a certain extent), any decent-sized meteorite that struck Earth would release considerably more energy than any nuclear explosion recorded to date.

It is this energy that causes rocks to be "fused" together, regardless of whether it is provided by high-energy fission reactions or meteor impact. The difference between the two possibilities is that there is evidence for meteor impacts on Earth and throughout the Solar System. There is not one shred of evidence for a nuclear explosion pre-20th century on Earth or indeed any other celestial body.

Rikki

{Ed033's Note - That is your opinion, it is not fact.}

Same time though you cannot disprove that God/s don't exist.

Also if you actaully knew what you were on about you'd realise that most of the religious texts in the world were not written by semi-literate tribesmen.

As someone else pointed out a lot of creation myths in many religious texts go abck to Sumer and they definitely were not "semi-literate tribesmen"

If people want to believe in God/s then up to them, science hasn't disproved or proved anything yet, the jury is still out. Even the scientists admit that as they are all still arguing with each other.

Its six of one and half a dozen of the other, they are both as bad as each other, and who knows whats going on over there. Any or all of this footage from both sides could be faked.

Its all a bit Jason Bourne!

Wouldn't be surprised if that was actually a true story.

"But for every how science has given us, it leaves open the question of why? which is why i think god still has a role to play in life yet!"

A brilliant example of the old "God of the gaps" rhetoric! The thing is, these gaps get smaller every century. Hopefully it won't be too long until religion is no longer able to oppress women, homosexuals etc.

But hey, "any religion is better than no religion"...all those bloody Atheist terrorists!

Rikki

I think the reason it wasn't very informative is because...well...there were almost certainly no "ancient aliens".

Rikki

" which is why i think god still has a role to play in life yet! "

There is no god . There is no proof of existence of any god . The only claimed proof is found in multi-millenia old fairy stories , written by semi-literate tribesman .

Beliefs are just ideas that have gone bald .

jimi88

You must be joking guy,
have you not seen top gun.

"But he'll get that chance in court in America. If he was innocent he wouldn't be worried"
Guess you've never been to court in America.
Buck

{Ed033's Note - Targeting Of Key Patriots on Enemies List?

Explain more? Somone

I remember having a convo with ed001 about technology regressing in comparison..ancient Indian texts(better known as Hindu texts..a term recently brought into use to form a new religion) have a lot of stories which speak about advanced technology in weapons, communication and also medicine..

i have read descriptions of aftereffects of war which are similar to nuclear attacks and the effect it would have on man and our surroundings.. I also remember in the mahabharata there was talk of a weapon which once invoked could not be taken back..and it would destroy everything in a large area..and no life could be sustained for generations to come..the main portagonists in the epic always thought twice before either teaching it to their students or invoking it during the course of war..

brilliant read if you skip past the recent translations which attribute the lessons of the epics more towards to "religion" than life as it is..considering that the Gita the books starts with saying this an explanation on the way of life and not a hard and fast rule to be followed.. it never was claimed to be the book of hinduism..it just recent attribution that has turned the Gita into a holy book..

Rudi

{Ed033's Note - Dr. Joseph P. Farrell's book Cosmic War: Interplanetary Warfare, Modern Physics and Ancient Texts delves into this topic

No problem franky!

PmacC

Great link pmacC.
frankyscouse

I heard the Pope lives there....... UNDERCOVER ELEPHANT.

You're right, things do need to change. The cost of fish and chips is outrageous and needs bringing down

TK-Red

The legal age is because of Italian Law. When the Vatican became a state it did so under the proviso of keeping some old Italian laws. The legal age of consent in Italian Law was 12 (now 14 i think) so the Vatican is/was the same.

Can we start with the cast of Eastenders please