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Look this guy up on youtube...TheZetaReticulan..its a season ahead of the uk history channel,

Common Purpose seems to be getting everywhere especially getting into local councils and obviously it needs to be stopped but not many people know it is even there

Right first off i'll accpet that there ae inconsistancies in the established events. i think we both recognise that.

I do feel that there is no way that the govt could have carried it out, a conspiracy like that would have needed dozens if not 100's of people involved at all levels, something surely would have leaked out by now. However i will accept that certain people are certainly shady characters and may have been acting independently providing that there is sufficient evidence to prove this.

Regards the claims that it was economic Pearl Harbor.

All through history great civilisations have gone to war for economic reasons, to control resources, gain land or slaves. Rome, the British Empire etc etc, this has happened throughout history so for the Americans to go to war for oil makes sense, a necessary resource in a strategically vital region where they have had previous.

So why in the this media driven thirst for revenge go for Afghanistan? If they just wanted a grab for Middle Eastern oil why not just go straight out for Iraq in 2001, why wait 2 years? If as you say they rigged it to put the blame on others why not rig it to look like Iraq and dive straight in there in 2001? Plenty of oil, friendly countries on the borders to provide bases, shorter strategic supply lines. From a viewpoint Iraq made a lot of sense. And from a humanitarian viewpoint he had to go and should have gone back in 1991.

But Afghanistan, ok so the perpetrators were based there, we know this based on what we have been told. But as i said if the Americans had been behind it and oil was the aim why say Afghanistan when they could have just said elesewhere unless it really was those based in Afghanistan.

Also Afghanistan is to me at least a strange choice, as far as i am aware there is no vast amount of natural resources as no one has really been able to conduct a proper survey due to the country being adogs breakfast since the 70's.

Supposedly its meant to be part of a pipeline. From where? It makes no strategic sense to build a pipeline through such hostile terrain and with all those warring factions around. Throw in hostile neighbours in Iran and the uncertainty of Pakistan and that whole area is a massive strategic risk that any competent military man would advise you to avoid.

You'd be far better concentraing on somewhere like Iraq and heading your pipeline towards the Eastern Mediterranean. Of course at some point you need to get either Jordan or Syria on side and sort out the mess thats Israel/ Palestine at least so you can get your pipeine in, but all thats surely easier than messing around in Afghanistan.

Rambling a bit so apologies. Anyway to Libya again yes the oil, but France was the driving force behind that and you can't accuse them of being pro american. As for Syria, i'm not sure there is the appetite for messing overtly in that one, not with Libya coming to a close, Iraq coming to a close and Afghanistan still dragging on. Its overstretch and its a lot of effort especially cost wise in a recession just for a pipeline.

I tend to disagree with the whole 911 was an inside job just to kickstart the American economy because from a point of view it doesn't make sense. Espwcially as it doesn't seem to have worked as the American economy over the last 3 years has been in its worst state for years.

But that doesn't mean that something funny isn't going on, certainly there are shady incidents, little pieces of the puzzle here and there. {Ed033's Note - British soldiers have been trying to take Afghanistan for the last 200 years because it is a strategic location. Also originally it was thought that there were billions of barrels of easy to get to oil in the caspian sea and they wanted to build a pipeline from the Caspian sea and across Afghanistan but then they found out there was not billions of barrels of easy to get to oil in the Caspian sea so went to Iraq first. }

{Ed033's Note - The most likely flying thing that hit the Pentagon was a missile possibly the Granit Missile }

{Ed033's Note - 911 allowed certain powerful groups to forward their agenda at an accelerated pace except it come at a cost and woke up millions of people world wide. }

{Ed033's Note - There was definitely a crash most likely of some type of craft but we don't know whether it was humans in a black technology craft or an extra terrestrial craft }

{Ed033's Note - Well, many people have spent large amounts of money trying to find out what's in the Nova Scotia Money Pit but no one has found anything of value such as lost knowledge or treasure. }

Anyway went off on tangent there, back to the kid with the oddly shaped skull. Be damned if i know, its strange and something certainly that falls into the unknown category.

Posting false information? That's infantile as you call it friend. If you actually bothered to research the Starchild skull yourself, you'll regret posting that science has proven it to be 100% human. I'll meet you halfway and say MAYBE the first test might have revealed that, but when you check the science, each test has been more modern each time and brought up more questions!
Look, there's every chance you're right, but there's every chance you're wrong as well!
Why is it that you have totally closed your mind to the idea? Does it bother you that everything you've been told so far has been a lie?

Peace to you

Jay {Ed033's Note - According to 2011 DNA experiments, the Star Child skull is almost certainly non human i.e. Alien - see Lloyd Pye's dedicated Star child web site page at www.starchildproject.com/dna2011marchlaymans.htm }

To Jay

I dont believe in intelligent design of any nature God or alien or any crap they are all part of the same arc. I believe in the evolution of the species, I also believe that human civilisation is more than capable of great achievements(that many attribute to Aliens with a love for working in the medium of stone) Pyrimids Aztec temples Hoover Dam etc. I am also a Marxist, I believe in workers collective ownership but I dont blame Owl worshipping Illumiati for the workers woes I blame greed and capital. Im hostile because if people base their opinions on the kinda texts that BARGIN BOOKS sell by the load then there is little hope that people will deal in rationale intellectual way. There is much that people need to educate themselves about and understand GLOBAL ECONOMICS, THE IMF, DEBT RESTRUCTURING, CAPITALIST MARKET SYSTEMS, TORY POLICY AND THE TEA PARTY. These are things I fear because I understand them to hell with rubbish lies that are published by imbeciles for idiots.
People who read pulp about SERIAL KILLERS, ALIENS, GHOSTS ETC depress me to hell.

Dont Buy the Sun

It's not really about the government not wanting to let you know. The effects of finding out that there was a superior race to humans would cause pandemonium and a breakdown in society. You just have to look at anthroplogical studies concerning places who have come into contact with superior societies. For example, when Inuits were first found by more advanced people, it basically led to mass alcoholism and suicide! {Ed033's Note - This is why it appears all the Governments signed up to non disclosure of extraterrestrial life as the Brookings Report said that if we looked for Extra terrestrial life, we would almost certainly find evidence of extra terrestrial life and that may cause problems in society due to the knowledge of ET's as stated above. }

And Marxism is the biggest fairytale of the lot mate. Sory but your perfect socialist utopia will never happen its not in human nature. Look at the mess labour make everytime they have power by driving us to the brink of bankruptcy. And i'm not a Tory i come from 5 generations of labour voters.

Sorry but medical and scientific opinion is the child was human. DNA 100% human. The vested interest in the myth and the lies printed are due to the owner and author Mr Pye. You lot must believe in fairies elves and Santa.

Dont buy the Sun

To the DON'T BUY THE SUN guy.

You're very hostile to people with open minds, shame yours is closed. Explain to me then if you don't mind, what your theory of our existence to be? Was it the invisible there's no evidence for God so many worship?
Are you scared that we maybe right? FACT is, you can't prove any of these theory's to be right or wrong, like we can't either.
Look forward to response brother!

Peace

Jay

Well said RAZ, I'm the same, I never said it defo was a being of different origin, only that this is what science has revealed so far!
Also to the poster who wrote the nutshell comment, nice!

Peace

Jay

To the guy that says the Starchild skill is only a misshapen skull. You clearly have only seen a pic of it, and by the sound of it, not a very good one. All sceptics say that they want evidence. Well science has tested this thing more than several times at different labs by different scientists and the conclusion ( so far ) is always the same. That the biological father of this thing is not of human origin. Even by looking at the pics, you can see it's not just a misshapen skull. Thing is, we don't know exactly how it came about, but we have it. Also, if there is ever a final test that explains it, then I'll accept whatever they say.
Dont be so close minded.
Remember, the brightest minds in the world once believed the earth was flat, so ponder that for a while.
Next you'll be saying it's FACT, that we're the only intelligent beings in the whole universe.

Anyway, peace

Jay

God then you are all right! Aliens are responsible for the evolution of man all culture and technology. You read crap pulp because you want a hollywood answer to everthing,anything well edited that drops in science jargon your hooked! Grow up. If you want to understand the world read Dawkins read Darwin read Marx. Or just go watch a DVD by David Ike and be a crettin. All these theories are a infantile distraction.

The tories are cutting the hell outta the coutry and all you want is quak medicine.

DONT BUY THE SUN

What is it Is this something along the lines of the Gaia Hypothesis?

Raz

Mate I have seen so much about the elephant man - and so far that has been explained by things. I watched that programme about 6 weeks ago about the elephant man and how they think he died- by leaning his head a certain way and it snapping his neck etc when he went to bed. Whatever. I am waiting to read an explanation for a skull made out of tooth, uniformly yet unforced-ly different to a normal human, much much thinner and lighter, yet stronger. I am not arrogant enough to simply thumb-down the Star Child as being not-entirely-human just because it doesn't sit with my idea of normal or acceptable. I have not finished reading, however, and when I have I will draw my own conclusions. The only thing I will say now before it crops up later is this: if all this govt cover up stuff really does happen and any trace of alien life is always hidden and then publicly dismissed, then I will not be surprised if I eventually end up reading that this is in fact human, even if I do not believe it.

What also makes me curious is that it had a string of DNA nucleotides or whatever that were 100% human, tied in with DNA that apparently was 100% NOT - not only that, but unrecognised as being anything from this planet that science knows about so far. That is amazing, and I will carry on exploring til I find out what people think it is.

On a side note, enough work and research has been done on body language and psychology to be able to identify immediately whether or not the scientists responsible for providing the DNA results, and Pye, are lying. So I don't think they are at this moment in time.

Raz

Nutshell: there is a difference between mis-shaped and perfectly-formed-yet-different.