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It's pretty mad tbh. I'm still reading it all. Right now I am asking myself where the studies on the fibres are, and why they keep saying the control skull was 'reportedly' found with the Starchild skull. Also where are the studies on the unidentifiable red stuff? And are they sure it wasn't burnt collagen from the blade? They said there was no protocol if you like for studying something they cannot identify so they have't tried yet, for fear of contaminating the sample. IMO they have more than enough sample to try SOMETHING and see what they get, rather than just sit on a research stalemate. If they do get to it that's great, but I haven't got that far yet.

Raz

Ah come on that Star child stuff is guff have you never seen a mis shaped skull. If you dug up the elephant man you would think its an alien.

The footage is so bad that you cant even see the 'plane' - b****cks. Why hide the plethora of camera footage for National Security... come on people...

That's cool mate, take your time. I'm always happy to have a discussion on these topics.

Peace
Jay

Ps. Class page ed's! {Ed001's Note - cheers mate, we all found ourselves discussing these things between us on our widget, so it made sense to create a site for everyone to be able to join in.}

Just like you said RAZ, they are based along the pipeline to protect it. It's gonna be an asset, so they can't have anything happening to it!
It's a shame that are no humanitarian missions ( government wise anyway ) that really make a differnce on the lives of our unfortunate brothers and sisters that live a life of he'll everyday. There are a lot of people out there who do go to thaws places and do what they can to help, I hold these people on the highest respect!

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Jay

Exactly my point Ed, all this grey matter must have a use, some might say. Others may say who cares. I for one do not believe that the rain operates at exactly the same level for every single person. When one's operates less, we call it things like, as a loose example, learning difficulties. What if someone's operates at a higher level? And detects senses that most cannot? What if eye sight is based as much upon physical rays of light as it is upon being able to detect them, and more? hence wh I believe some people can see ghosts and others can't/ We've all seen those cheesy horror films where someone can see or hear voices and nobody else can, they get pegged as a nutter, everyone dies, turns out they were right in the first place, bla bla bla... no smoke without fire .
Raz

Jay I have been reading and watching about the starchild all morning, it is amazing. Little things such as that super-human/unidentifiable 'fibre' that meshed itself throughout the skull- perhaps like when we mesh glass? After all, it was half to a quarter the normal human skull thickness.

It is annoying they do not know what the red residue is - having said that it is not bone marrow, they then have not attempted to identify it yet. Well not from what I have got through so far.
Their theory of potential alien genetic engineering is really interesting.
Mum mentioned a disease when I spoke about the extra row of teeth ready and waiting even though this was an adult head - she mentioned Proteus syndrome... no mention of it so far, even to refute it.

Really interesting reading.

Raz

It's really interesting, and I completely see where you're coming from Jay. I was just curious about the link between having forces based along a pipeline and how they get their hands on it. Said differently - why do they need to locate camps etc along pipe line if they are not stealing it? If they are offering aid and unsurprisingly drawing up contracts of repayment in oil terms, why do they need to locate themselves anywhere near pipeline? Is it to defend that which will eventually provide them with an income?

Cheers.
Raz

Raz, I understand your query.
It's not a case of just taking it. When NATO get involved, usually with us and the USA at the forefront, once we get these country's and restore order and democracy ( what the government like to say ), when a new government/leader is put in place. We and the USA draft up what we feel is a fair contract on the profits of the oil. Because once order has been restored, NATO/UK/USA pick who will be running the country, so whoever makes the best offer of finance from oil production/sale, usually gets the position of power. Just look at all the military camps along the oil pipe lines in the country's where we have troops. Shocking, but happening!

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Jay

Red sky, spot on mate. No oil, no humanitarian missions! I for 1 would be proud of my country if we could make a real difference in places that need it, not helping out corporate big wigs.

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Jay

Sorry Ed, I meant 5 physical ones that are supported an irrefutable - sight, sound, taste, smell, touch. It was more to just make my point rather than to go into an in depth discussion in the literal number of senses we possess, but in a way your point supports mine so that's great. I am reading an interesting article as you got me thinking, it says itch is a sense - I disagree. A physical and chemical process occurring on the skin which triggers electrical impulses in the same nuerosensors as touch does - some people feel smell and taste are the same sense but 'delivered' differently, on this occasion I'd have to say itch is in the same overall area as touch. However, I am going to read up on this as this website I found says that it surprisingly IS different sensory set from touch. It is the same sense that detects being tickled by a feather IMO so will read into it. Simultaneously, pressure. Pressure in the context of something leaning on you is again just touch. Pressure in the sense of air pressure - that creates a measurable force on your eardrum - touch. Just because it is air does not mean it isn't touch. Again, the same senses that feel a breeze.

I agee there are more clear vut ones to add to the list - thermoception (being able to tell temperature changes), proprioception - being able to tell where your body parts are. You could argue this is linked with touch - muscle movements send impulses down the same sensory cells due to pressure changes and this tells us where the limb is. When you fall asleep on your arm, there is no blood flow, the electrochemical processes therefore do not occur, and they cannot be 'felt'. SO again, debatable.
Pain is an obvious one. Some come under the umbrella of touch but can be separated into further ones like the ones I have just mentioned, but pain is deffo a separate one.
Balance
Hunger
Thirst.

etc etc.

Completely gone off the point haha sorry, but yeah my point was we have many senses and there could be more that not everyone uses. {Ed001's Note - it is an interesting subject, I think, but I bet there are a lot of people that would disagree with me on that! But back to the original question, we only have to look at how much of the brain is left unused to realise that we are missing something.}

I could happily live in a world without all the material things we seem to want/need these days. As long as I had shelter and food for my family, I'd be happy. Problem is, not everyone can do without the material things in life. If we all could, the world would be a better place for it and not one person on our beautiful planet would have to starve again. We could all be equal as one and get back to basics and understanding what our part in the universe is!

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Jay

Exactly mate - I don't see the US/UK governments going to places like Uganda, or the Congo, in such numbers when life in those countries is shocking and the suffering of the people. I guess there's no oil in those places, so no interest in 'helping' them out......

RED_SKY

Jay, I do not refute your theory at all, I find it very interesting. the only I would like to know is whether there is any evidence of the oil being taken? Shipping? Tapping the pipes? Lorries photographed?
Cheers,
Raz

Well it would make sense for them to defend themselves after setting up the attack in the first place. What would have been weird is if they saw the plane coming and allowed it to detonate/crash, no? Of course they shot it down.

Thanks all!

Raz

Sad fact of life Jay, and perhaps biology too, is that we have an ID and an EGO and temperaments and emotion such as anger, love, power, whatever. That's why, just like almost every other biological creature out there, we are territorial, we defend things we love, and we like to get as much of what we love as possible, and we thrist for power. The world didn't get on like a house on fire before the last 20 centuries, far from it- tribe wars, religious wars, you name it, since the dawn of man we have fought each other over homes, and then wealth. I doubt it will ever change, unless we decide to actively defy the nature of our race.

P.s. in a nutshell if you have to do anything that gives your name and address away, then you can be tracked. People think hotmail is so secure, but think about this - there is a database full of info like your password etc. When you forget it, or your log in, someone can access all that information as the means in which you can save it and give it in the first place that it may be stored were created by us in the first place. The only reason you have to log into hotmail, open an email for your orange account or whatever else, click on the link and then add a new password, instead of them telling you, is because they'd be found out. (And obviously the reason why you have to set up a new hotmail account if you forget your password is because they don't want to blow their own cover.) When you change your pin on your bank card - that number is generated somewhere. So it is stored. If you then go to a cash machine and change it, they still know - they have to - 1) because all the button presses are logged, and 2) because how would htey know if it is correct or not if there was not a frame of reference? By they I mean the computer software. And 100% of what happens in a computer software program can be traced. So if someone wanted to hack into a cash machine and steal all the bank details and pin codes, they could, they'd just have to know how.

Pretty much mate. The thing with the government ( all governments ) is that they create a problem, then offer a solution. Obviously the problem they create is sold as something else, terrorism for example. They then say what they and us could all do to prevent such problems, hence us asking for their help. It's a viscious cycle, but one that we, the people, have accepted. Problem is, we all complain about the government, yet we put them there and never seriously put up much of an arguement to their goings on.
Maybe 1 day, we can drop our weapons, artillery, nuclear warheads and unite together as 1, the way it should be. We are a species of beauty and mystery, yet we continue to destroy ourselves. It saddens me that we are like this, but like I said, maybe 1 day, we'll re-connect with ourselves and our universe!

Peace

Jay
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