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Discussion #5284Talk Sense

28 Jun 2016 23:32:14
EU Superstate now unveiled where all countries in EU are completely merged into one Superstate losing any individual control whatsoever and transferring all power to brussels.


goo.gl/E9WTeV

Mr.x
29 Jun 2016 00:49:58
Start of the new world order in my opinion. There's got to be a small number of people in power that are either helping the people or the super state thing conflicts with their interests (financially) or there controllers interests.
{Ed033's Note - This superstate is now right in front of people's faces and i doubt if hardly anyone of the asleep masses will bat an eyelid about it unless the main stream media tell them to.
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jimmyjones
29 Jun 2016 02:36:38
People are online denying what's going on regarding the start of an Eu super state, how closed minded are these people?
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southampton87
29 Jun 2016 02:44:50
Lol
Read the comments
People still won't have none of it
There's a petition for farage to be in the exit negotiation.
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Wrangler
29 Jun 2016 08:20:25
Gotta agree people are in serious denial about this. i'm from Ireland and I was saying this to my mate here who wanted the UK to vote remain. Was telling him about the polish leak on this a few days ago and he wouldn't have any of it, wouldn't even read up on it and just kept saying it was some loony just putting out crap.

Personally I was delighted the UK left but here in Ireland you would nearly get punched for having that view and talking to people about it. it's clear to see why. Irish people didn't want the UK to leave, not because they gave a crap about the UK people but for pure selfish reasons.

The UK is putting itself first and people from the outside just can't see that, its like voting in a general election. people only take a narrow minded view if what's in it for them in the short term as opposed to what's best for the citizens of a country in the long term.

Thank God the UK voted to do what's best for you in the long term and I'm confident that when the EU comes crashing down and there's a scurry out the door that you will have been proved right.

I do think though that a civil war in Europe in the next 10-20 years is inevitable if countries don't back away from the monster that is the EU in its current (and planned) form. Rant over! 😁.
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frankyscouser
29 Jun 2016 10:35:54
wrangler its inevitable once the eu implodes you will see countries turning on each other, definitely a scary thought.
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Discussion #9946Talk Sense

28 Jun 2016 22:37:37
Is it just me or does anyone think there's a power struggle not just between our parliament but maybe even higher between the global elitists?

 

{Ed033's Note - highly likely
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Discussion #12081Talk Sense

28 Jun 2016 15:03:18
This has to be the most obvious Conspiracy in modern British politics, yet many can't see through it

The Labour Parliamentary Party coup against the party members selection.
I have no doubt is blairites at work. The shadow cabinet members who resigned all voted for Blair's illegal war in Iraq and with the Chilcot report findings about to be revealed the Blairites need to close the shop and brush up as much as possible .

 

frankyscouser
28 Jun 2016 18:02:49
deffo, they could not do it before the eu vote as it would have pissed off a lot of the younger votes and they would have got the blame for the defeat .

chilcot massive as its reported he will ask for war crimes against him if the report showed he lied.

they are throwing everything including the sink.
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KimPhilby
28 Jun 2016 18:17:41
I was waiting for someone to join the dots.
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Discussion #5283Talk Sense

28 Jun 2016 14:11:25
Ian R. Crane and Brian Gerrish discussion about the EU Referendum Psy-Op. Young people have Stockholm Syndrome.

TTTS
28 Jun 2016 14:58:01
Funny enough that's what I likened it too. Definitely a draw to the EU for all the wrong reasons.
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Discussion #5282Talk Sense

28 Jun 2016 12:02:44
Latest Nigel Farage talk in the EU parliament where you can hear a lot of the other EU MP adults acting like children. Why would anyone want these adults with child like minds governing them ever?

 

southampton87
28 Jun 2016 14:38:05
I agree ed
I have watch EU parliament quite a few times
They have even started pushing and shoving
And what is more every time
Farage is the only one out of that whole mob that talks sense
I cannot wait till others pull out
All we have to do is drag our heels with article 50
And that will make EU look like the bunch of fools they are.
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Sanogolovesbentner
28 Jun 2016 14:45:23
It goes to show. Anyone who boos and jeers a democratic vote and laughs in the face of democracy should never be allowed to be in any sort of power in society. Maybe they are booing because us leaving the EU has cost those individuals lots of money.
{Ed033's Note - Most of those in the EU parliament don't know there is another agenda and yet they know most of the people of Europe do not want the EU because every time there has been a vote on whether the people of a country want to be part of the EU, they vote no to it. France, Netherlands, Eire (1st vote) and UK and yet these people ignore the fact people mostly don't want the EU and carry on with the EU regardless.

You could be correct because if you get into being a EU MP, after the 4/5 years of the EU MP salary and expenses, a lot of these people become millionaires if they weren't before.
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LAVERS
28 Jun 2016 15:57:54
Reminds me off a good episode of Jeremy kyle. the place is like a pantomime.
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Sanogolovesbentner
28 Jun 2016 16:27:07
Whether people like Farage or not, he has to be thanked for what is a life's mission to get us out of the EU and he's successfully managed to stir enough people that could have been sat on the fence to do the right thing.
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KimPhilby
28 Jun 2016 18:18:49
I thought Farage talked a lot of sense. Bullies don't like it when someone stands up to them.
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Discussion #11431Talk Sense

27 Jun 2016 21:07:16
I've seen people trying to justify where a political party belongs, left, right just of centre! People forget that with most of the high ranking brass from both parties (lab and con) are groomed all their life's and put through elite education and brainwashed into a colour. Conservatives are far more regimental and full of snobbery to the higest degree where as labour still have the backing of the so called working class and the commoners. And still people vote with this ridiculous notion in mind. Labour has let it's people down and turned its back on its people. Both party's sre just some pre conceived ideal that suits no one.

 

southampton87
27 Jun 2016 23:53:47
Just how they act now says it all.
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Mr.x
28 Jun 2016 04:33:14
There's talk that Boris Johnson might get P. M. job, I don't know if that will be acting P. M. role before an election. To be honest I'm not really sure as that's the drivel that mainstream media is spewing to the masses but Il take Boris heck I'd take Thatcher than David Cameron. What do u guys think of Boris situation and also the disruption in parliament due to brexit?
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Sanogolovesbentner
28 Jun 2016 07:03:38
They are all stamping their feet and throwing toys out of the pram. Pretty ridiculous really.
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KimPhilby
28 Jun 2016 08:41:09
Both John Major and Gordon Brown succeeded a serving prime minister without a general election. Although the circumstances now are different.
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frankyscouser
28 Jun 2016 11:31:31
take thatcher johnson or cameron?
trying not to swear .
so I will use this quote
if you can not say anything nice, don't say nothing at all!
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Discussion #9818Talk Sense

27 Jun 2016 18:38:24
So the £ has dropped to a 31year low. see things are already steadying it dropped back 30years on Friday and only 1year today.

Time to move forward lol.

 

Rian
27 Jun 2016 19:27:43
Let's see article 50 activated before we start making any sort of prediction about the where the pound will settle. It's bound to be a bumpy ride in the short term.
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Supasub
27 Jun 2016 22:23:02
Isn't it a 31 year low against the dollar? But they don't mention the dollar. It's about 1.2 against euro and abut 3/ 4 years ago the pound was nearly level with the euro. You nearly get 12 swedish krona (a bit like the old French franc, naturally about 10 to the pound) to the pound. Being half swedish I remember when it was nearly 7 krona to the pound. It's certainly not at its lowest. It only seems to be against the dollar and maybe Chinese currency bit I don't know how the Chinese currency naturally stands in general.
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Discussion #9361Talk Sense

27 Jun 2016 17:43:30
i did mention you will hear of ken mr bilderberg clark soon .

he mentioned in the commons today that the vote was just a snapshot opinion of the people and not binding .

paraphrasing.

 

Rian
27 Jun 2016 19:30:30
I'd be worried by that Frankie. They're going to use every trick in the book to undermine the credibility of the result.
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Discussion #12080Talk Sense

27 Jun 2016 15:58:49
Does anyone else think this could be the start of the awakening? . There's so much going on on so many fronts.

 

frankyscouser
27 Jun 2016 17:34:21
yep mate there are to many things happening all over the world right and left wing that have 1 thing in common, a lack of trust in the establishment .
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HP
27 Jun 2016 17:57:54
Definately TTTS, see some of my post below.
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Discussion #11522Talk Sense

27 Jun 2016 00:30:51
This will lighten the mood. Paul Joseph Watson on Brexit and the 'Remain' people.

 

frankyscouser
27 Jun 2016 12:44:44
watson going into alex jones mode .
i liked watson but his calim that the EU was a left wing kabul was a total lie, its right wing masquerading itself.
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Rian
27 Jun 2016 13:00:21
Best thing you can do with PJW is to ignore him.
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Sanogolovesbentner
27 Jun 2016 20:57:48
It's definitely not right wing franky. It's much sicker than that. It's complete domination of Europe masquerading as liberal lefty idealistic bullshit.
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Discussion #9817Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 19:33:13
Makes me laugh when you keep hearing people saying that we are going to lose EU funding (n. ireland, Cornwall etc etc)

Do these people not realise that they are only getting money back which we have already given to the EU?

Rian
26 Jun 2016 21:41:22
How much do you give and how much do you get?

By the way, Northern Ireland is an artificial economy propped up by EU grants and British taxpayers money. No offence to my brothers and sisters up north, but its economy is a complete basket case.
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Supasub
26 Jun 2016 22:48:36
It's as if many remain voters think that eu politicians only have our best interests at heart. Like it's some big sweet shop. How does anyone really know what money we get back anyway?

No one has even been able to put a correct figure on anything. It's farcical and if people think that having integration in a system like that is some sort of people coming together as one happy family are absolutely deluded. Many people (lots of adults) are taking anything said word for word.

Whenever I hear a politician speak, I just think who is this person and what is their motive. I've never trusted any politicians from my early 20's which was something my parents instilled in me. They always voted though either with their head or their heart.

I've never voted for labour, yes I'll admit it because I don't think they ever implement what they stand for but I've got to feel sorry for corbyn because right from the start he never believed in the remain camp but was forced into a corner.

My step father who died over 10 years ago who was a socialist at heart but generally voted tory said John Smith (I think) was the one that he was excited about and would get his vote for the first time. Then he died suddenly of a heart attack and along came Blair. Followed by Darling and Mandelson.

Just one of them gives me a knot in my stomach just thinking of the audacity of some of the things they would come out with. Many labour voters didn't seem to realise that they were basically tories themselves.
{Ed033's Note - Another thing that's crazy is people think politicians are somehow our masters, when they are actually our servants. politicians are public servants, how can anyone not know and comprehend what the word, "servant" means.
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southampton87
26 Jun 2016 23:01:07
Spot on rian.
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Supasub
26 Jun 2016 23:33:59
Absolutely ed. I've never felt so proud of my one vote when I woke up in the morning. I always vote as I don't think I can moan if I don't vote. But this paricular vote I cast I presumed was for a losing vote but cast it with my heart.

It's strange to hear people discussing this vote in shops etc as a general election is usually forgotten within hours but this one seems to have people I wouldn't expect annoyed with the vote because they think freedom is a bigger increasing population under undemocratic law, if that's the best way to describe it, when freedom is actually the opposite.

it's individuality and getting along. I really feel there has been a massive positive shift these last couple of days but the media and remain supporters are saying different. I just find it really odd.
{Ed033's Note - Let's hope a significant percentage of 'Leave' voters have had their eyes opened with what's going on now and a load of them 'wake up' to the corruption and manipulation that's going on right infront of their eyes.
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Supasub
27 Jun 2016 00:06:58
Yes ed. The other thing that's odd about this "mass" protest is that the country is in absolute disarray. Yet all services etc running the same. The only protest I've seen is the online petition, it's hardly a reaction. In france the slightest mention of a reduction in workers rights etc causes mass strikes disrupting the whole country like we saw in the last couple of months.

Here we have an online petition that's just been hijacked. No mass protests that I can think of. Apparently there were marches but nothing reported. It's the media again whipping up a sh*t storm that isn't happening.
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Discussion #12079Talk Sense

26 Jun 2016 17:53:02
It seems the system servers are been ousted out of the labour party . This should give JC more room to manoeuvre. He has the popular vote of party members. A new manifesto needs to be drawn up and put forward in the next election. If they resign the Scottish branch of Labour and forward local branch candidates giving them an opinion of independents if the want, if they contest NI with an aim of uniting Ireland as a country, if they address the needs of the long suffering Welsh.
If they stick to their principles and I believe that JC is a Lexit supporter they will win back the lost vote and win the election.
The establishment has been injured, a blairite freeLabour must step up to the mark and turn the knife.

 

KimPhilby
26 Jun 2016 18:12:09
Corbyn won't win a general election for the simple reason he doesn't appeal to ordinary labour voters. There's a difference between labour voters and labour members.
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TTTS
26 Jun 2016 19:14:48
I beg to differ Kim, there's a appetite for change out there. They take a bold socialist stance and bury the sad remainder of Blairs system servers it's possible.
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KimPhilby
26 Jun 2016 20:33:46
35 years of professional political analysis tells me different. 7/ 10 people I've spoken to since Thursday, and it's a lot of people, are indifferent to corbyn.

I agree people want change. But corbyn lacks mass appeal.
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TTTS
26 Jun 2016 21:05:34
Just out of a matter of interest Kim, of topic a bit, after reading your post, how much of the political analysing is manipulated by the MSM to suit an agenda?
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Supasub
26 Jun 2016 22:52:03
I voted leave and I generally vote tory with my head. I couldn't ever imagine voting for corbyn as he doesn't seem robust enough and doesn't seem to be someone that I can engage with. But I think he's a good person. Doesn't make him a good politician.
{Ed033's Note - When corbyn flipped to 'Remain', it ruined his integrity and what it means is that he could flip on any issue. For me corbyn now has zero integrity.
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