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Discussion #2041Talk Sense

21 Sep 2014 13:09:42
For the few that are still suppressed by the illusion that we live under democracy and conduct democratic elections.
http://tinyurl.com/krhrl37
zari

 

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Discussion #9201Talk Sense

20 Sep 2014 11:37:07
ebola or similar life threatening diseases in my opinion will be more the norm as going in to wars is costly and people people are not buying the propaganda anymore, to cut a long story short yes it will allowed to spread to kill more then the pharmaceuticals will come to rescue with something that will contain it , it will not cure it because there is no real profit in cures, messing around with mother nature has a nasty habit of kicking you in the ass thou.

 

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Discussion #11822Talk Sense

19 Sep 2014 15:40:44
Put my point on the wrong thread so I will bring it to the top:

Would the vote have been "rigged" had there been a yes vote franky? The fact that it seemed like more "yes" on social media sites only suggests that those people would vote in that way and to suggest social media sites represents a general view is wrong. Most middle aged and older businessmen & women I know don't even really use social media and they are more likely the ones who would vote no. I doubt all the farmers, landlords, old school business men & women of Scotland would use social media sites. Many people wouldn't say how they vote because of ridicule and reprisals too. I'm English and half swedish with some irish and Scottish blood chucked as have most of us I expect but either way had Scotland voted yes I wouldn't have been that bothered but I am of the belief that things are better off more together than apart. I don't understand how easily some people bought into the fact that just swapping one government for another would make the people of Scotland have any more honesty and power and less of a self serving government than they have now. I'm happy that Scotland is still with us, not for any reason, I just think it's better for all. Now one thing that does remain and is now enhanced is yes or no, Scotland is almost split down the middle which won't help to be honest and this will rumble on. On a slightly different note why is it that most english people I know generally in sport myself included would either want one of the home country's, (Wales, Scotland, ni) to beat another team/country unless our own, or not be bothered. But when it comes to many Scots in my experience they would support amy other team against England, I suppose backed up by a general dislike, resentment or even hatred against the English. Is this also directed at Wales and n. I. or just the English? I know it's historical but is it just because of things before all our lifetimes as there is nothing I can think of in the last few generations? It's not even as if English people I know think they are above Scotland or anyone else, far from it. And in my own opinion it came across to me as one of the most democratic votes I've experienced in my lifetime. Even the votes that didn't count and we're fairly insignificant were broken down to the vote and reasons given why. I don't think you could get any more of a fairer vote any where in the world which is I believe a good thing.

 

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Just to add to my post. Selfishly my ideal world would be a union with Scandinavia, Finland and iceland included. A little like a north sea union. I know it would never happen but all of us would be separate countries with separate currencies (apart from the pound). We would all be (apart from north Scandinavia Arctic circle) be surrounded by water. Have our own border controls separate from Europe and have lovely countries to live in and move between. I'm a believer in safety in numbers. The French often show what can happen when people pull together if they don't like what is going on and there is no other reason why any other country can't do the same except for the reason that many can't be bothered, many are uneducated or don't understand and many don't think any change can happen.

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frankyscouser
I take on board the social network site votes with people over a certain age, not the rallies were the masses were out in force (not reported on msm)plus also mate I don't buy all business men and landlords would automatically vote no.

i have always got on with scottish people and it might be just me but working class cities like glasgow and liverpool have more in common than london and liverpool, but I am not your stereotypical english flag waving monarchy loving type of guy.
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I didn't say they would vote no franky. I was just pointing out that many of them wouldn't divulge which way they would vote or would be on social media sites. Someone voting for change imo is more likely to say they are voting yes rather than someone more prudent in their views say.

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Firstly, if Scotland had its own government it would at least be housed closer to home and would thus make it easier for people to go to the parliament building. Which in turn could instill some minor sense of insecurity to the corrupt politicians.

Secondly, I hope you are joking but England still occupies a lot of countries, though it chooses to "properly" refer to them as colonies.
As an example, they invaded Cyprus twice, once supposedly purchasing the land and its subjects from the French Lusignan and the second leasing it from the Ottomans.
They officially left the country in 1959 while unofficially they are still occupying it. They imposed a constitution on the country in 1960 and have also placed them under the rule of the crown.
In 1963 they reached an agreement with Turkey about them occupying 37% of the island and England maintaining their military bases. Turkey fulfilled its side of the bargain when they invaded the country in 1974. This map was leaked and as the line was drawn with green ink, it is what inspired the term Cyprus Green Line.
Additionally, the only two fresh water sources, on an island plagued by drouth, are where their two "sovereign" military bases are conveniently located.
Also, know that this is nothing as compared to what they did to China, India and most of the continent of Africa.

Thirdly, have you ever heard of the commonwealth games and what do you suppose they are?

This might sound harsh but you should return the queen her glasses.
The establishment is using England as a tool to oppress more than one third of the world. About one third through the US and the rest is mostly split between Israel, China and Turkey. Though Germany seems to be catching up fast again.
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Zari. Not quite sure why your trying to give me a history lesson on colonisation as none my post hardly refers to anything you are trying to lecture me on. I'm certainly not interested in England increasing the commonwealth (and yes I am aware what it is!) I am not pro-Europe and I am not pro globalisation. I just have my own beliefs and opinions based on my own persona.
We can all get information from anywhere and I doubt there is a country in the world that hadn't aggressively had an interest in another, certainly beyond England and the u. s. but you reserve your acute option for them
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Discussion #9200Talk Sense

19 Sep 2014 09:14:04
got up today to find out scotland is still tied to the suits down south, let me put this straight something so big that could have changed everything in the uk had to had more transparency than a secret vote, I do not trust the system, I am not going to ignore the no vote like some of the guys on this site but this independence run up reminds me in some ways of the coverage in gaza, go to the msm and they all tell you its close but they think the no campaign will win (as they did)go to the social media sites and its a monumental yes, then you go back to msm and they get people of the street like say a well educated no voter who gives there valid reasons why they want no, then you get a yes voter who clearly is not comfortable on camera and is made to look stupid, then you watch the yes and no rallies on the lead up to the vote /sky or bbc never showed you the masses especially in Glasgow voting for yes and that's massive considering the sectarian divide, put it this way something so big needs something big needs something were u can actually see who is voting, don't ask me how because I do not know.

 

{Ed033's Note - Wasn't it obvious the ruling class were gong to do their best to rig the vote to whichever way they wanted? (punch)
frankyscouser
The propaganda scare tactics if there was a yes vote shows yes they were going to do whatever it takes to keep the alliance, hand on heart I reckon this vote was rigged.
{Ed002's Note - There would have been no "rigging" of the vote Franky. A much better discussion point is how anyone could consider voting without the word "Independent" being defined in terms of (a) what it means in this instance, and (b) what would it mean if there was a "yes" vote in terms of what happens next.}
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Unless voting is transparent (full name, i.d. or some other unique identifier) and the lists are made public so they can be crosschecked by every individual, it will always be subject to manipulation.
"It is not who votes that matters, but who counts the votes".
zari
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Its a very sad day for scotlands people today there's some video footage of rigging already exposed on social media sites, I was a proud scot before today and ill be a proud scot after, the voices of the voiceless continue to be unheard.
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frankyscouser
We may differ edd02 on this but let's say your valid points were raised, do you hand on heart think it would get a balanced pro/cons debate in the mainstream media?
{Ed002's Note - Unless we know what "independent" means how can there be any sensible debate. If it were defined, then cases could be put for both sides and debated - the benefit not being the debate but the voters at least would understand the implications of their votes.}
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frankyscouser
Yes I understand were you are coming from and let's say independence was fully explained in black and white for the normal person on the street pros/cons, my bet that the cons would heavily outweigh the pros in the press, I will give you a example two massive corporations asda and Tesco were allowed to make a statement that jobs would go and food prices would rise if Scotland became independent, how the hell can that be allowed on a run up to a vote?how many people voted no because of that statement?we will never no but I maintain if we had a media not influenced by corporations then debating issues like this would be crystal clear.
{Ed002's Note - That is not vote rigging, simply tactics and posturing. If you cannot live with that then the entire democratic system would become unsustainable.}
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Discussion #9199Talk Sense

18 Sep 2014 10:30:11
was busy last night, defoo the poll yesterday about human mutilations being caused by whoever is causing the animal mutilation is a big fat yes, we might differ on who is doing it but I have always thought it is ufo related.

todays poll about the Annunaki still here, I am unsure as you only ever hear of the greys/lizards etc not the mythical Annunaki.

 

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Can you shed some light on the anunaki.?

I have heard the big haired guy talking about them on ancient aliens when I have seen it.
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It is said the powerful bloodlines are Annunaki like royalty and the top 1/2% who are ruling us.
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Would the vote have been "rigged" had there been a yes vote franky? The fact that it seemed like more "yes" on social media sites only suggests that those people would vote in that way and to suggest social media sites represents a general view is wrong. Most middle aged and older businessmen & women I know don't even really use social media and they are more likely the ones who would vote no. I doubt all the farmers, landlords, old school business men & women of Scotland would use social media sites. Many people wouldn't say how they vote because of ridicule and reprisals too. I'm English and half swedish with some irish and Scottish blood chucked as have most of us I expect but either way had Scotland voted yes I wouldn't have been that bothered but I am of the belief that things are better off more together than apart. I don't understand how easily some people bought into the fact that just swapping one government for another would make the people of Scotland have any more honesty and power and less of a self serving government than they have now. I'm happy that Scotland is still with us, not for any reason, I just think it's better for all. Now one thing that does remain and is now enhanced is yes or no, Scotland is almost split down the middle which won't help to be honest and this will rumble on. On a slightly different note why is it that most english people I know generally in sport myself included would either want one of the home country's, (Wales, Scotland, ni) to beat another team/country unless our own, or not be bothered. But when it comes to many Scots in my experience they would support amy other team against England, I suppose backed up by a general dislike, resentment or even hatred against the English. Is this also directed at Wales and n. I. or just the English? I know it's historical but is it just because of things before all our lifetimes as there is nothing I can think of in the last few generations? It's not even as if English people I know think they are above Scotland or anyone else, far from it. And in my own opinion it came across to me as one of the most democratic votes I've experienced in my lifetime. Even the votes that didn't count and we're fairly insignificant were broken down to the vote and reasons given why. I don't think you could get any more of a fairer vote any where in the world which is I believe a good thing.
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Discussion #9198Talk Sense

16 Sep 2014 15:21:21
closer to the Scottish independence vote, I am 50/50 on this, if it is like George Galloway suggests that breaking up the union is going to harm the lower classes then I am against it but if its good for the Scottish people and it harms the establishment then I am for it, like I said I am 50/50 and I am unsure about salmond, what do you guys think.?

 

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16 Sep 2014 21:39:01
Badly thought out, the working class will lose out, but Salmon and co line their pockets. How does signing up to the euro, which will be the price of admission, give them independence? How does wanting to keep using the bank of england give them independence? How do they explain the massive shortfall in nhs spending?
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I think this doesn't belong on a conspiracy page
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RM8
I'm voting no Franky. I don't think we have the resources to go it alone. The oil spoken of is not ours, there's no central banking system. Currency's up in the air. Taxes will hike especially on imports. Nuclear weapons do we really want to hand them over to someone else because there not ours to decommission, Retired military men getting screwed out of pensions unless they move South. Salmond doesn't have the answers there's been no transparency from the SNP but I was anti Salmond & SNP beforehand. On top of all that as screwed as our country's are & no matter how anti establishment & Royals I am I'm still proud to be British.
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Frankie I'm 100% yes. IMO yes will win by 2% on Friday. I believe Scotland Will grown into one of the world's richest country's in the world.

Regardless I think this is a wake up call for Westminster as Scotland Wales & north of Watford are going to want more power for the rest of the UK or what's left of it.

Salmond, wasn't his biggest fan however I trust him more than the rest. my family have funded and supported Labour since before I was born (26 years ago) however I don't think Labour will ever be the same in scotland as they have stood shoulder to shoulder with the torries etc.

Also don't read too much into then icm or any other poll, every poll that's been in the MSN have been based on max 1, 500 people. Only poll that matters will be on the 19th September.

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Franky, I'm Scottish and bricking it that the vote doesn't go thru!
My aunt and little brother were going to vote No as they were worried about Northern England and what would happen to them, yet they've changed and are voting Yes as Scotland's vote counts for nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I was away on holiday last week and read English red tops for a few days, spoke to a few members of the "Union" from most of the countries and we are thought of as uneducated fools! The whole my sons sixteen and wants a motorbike, you know its a bad idea but sometimes your just aswell letting them maim themselves to learn a lesson haha. Come on Scotland's a developed country and it's about time we're able to run our own affairs.

Sorry if its a ramble, English was never my strong point.

Stuart nic

A Scotsman worried that he ain't going to get what his country needs.
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Discussion #10785Talk Sense

16 Sep 2014 14:16:37
In County Leitrim in Ireland, councillors voted for a ban on fracking (for the 2nd time) in their development plan, but have been warned that the clause was illegal and could be overturned by Minister for Energy Alex White.

Leitrim is a beautiful part of the country and it just beggars belief that the government is effectively trying to bully the council into overturning their decision. We should be protecting the land, not sanctioning its possible future destruction for the benefit of energy companies.

Ryan.

 

{Ed033's Note - This is to everyone, as explained before, there is a salvage operation going on in and around Britain/Eire, where the shareholders of UK PLC (or whatever the corporation is called) get the profits of the salvage operation.

The government are managing the salvage operation on behalf of the shareholders. The shareholders come first in any company/corporation, therefore people in government have a duty to the shareholders not anyone else. However, only a few people in government know the above.

As there is profit for the shareholders in Fracking, Fracking must take place because the shareholders come first.

Now obviously, this shows anyone that the government must be illegitimate as people in a legitimate government have a duty to 'we the people' and are supposed to represent and be the servants of 'we the people'.

The way they seem to get around 'we the people', is by wrongly assuming there are no 'we the people', with everyone in their legalese world being foreigners and known as such labels as 'residents', 'citizens', 'taxpayers'.

To comprehend more about this, watch the below documentary if you haven't see it before and put 2 and 2 together to see what's going on.

What The FUQ

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Brilliant documentary, thanks for the link Ed033. Watched it the last time it was posted and it is definitely worth a watch. For all those who wonder about the establishments use of legalese towards the suppression of the people this is an eye opener.
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Discussion #9408Talk Sense

15 Sep 2014 13:51:14
Been away for a while but been following not posting. There's a James Rollins book, Black Order that deals with today's poll topic. Well-researched and interesting for you literary-oriented folk out there.

 

{Ed033's Note - Great, thanks Geordiesteve
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Link to book suggested by Geordiesteve
http://tinyurl.com/jvg7qf8
zari
{Ed033's Note - thanks zari
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Discussion #9197Talk Sense

15 Sep 2014 11:56:06
i thought I knew most things about 7/7 but after trawling threw sites I came across muad dib, for those who don't know who he is, he made the documentary about 7/7 called the ripple effect (well worth watching ) without giving anything away watch the interview video, it shows how corrupt the establishment is and what they are putting then a 62 year old man through.

7/7 Ripple Effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PQG5weeHk

7/7 Ripple Effect 2 extended version of the original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZ3Ezi9QhQ

Muad'Dib interview with Richard D. Hall
http://blip.tv/richplanet/muad-dib-interview-10-11-2010-4385829

 

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Discussion #9196Talk Sense

15 Sep 2014 05:32:09
been chatting to a american lady on twitter who then gave me a link about 9th circle secret society, very interesting snippet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hJ0cLLayEI

 

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Discussion #9480Talk Sense

15 Sep 2014 02:39:57
Something I came across, thought it was an interesting read.

Techniques of the Illuminati (40 of them)
01. Harassment: When faced with opposition, the Elitists first attempt to overcome by “buying” someone out. If that doesn’t work, they resort to discrediting and then harassment in extreme form via endless phone calls, tapping or tracking, or tailing and following as well as putting out negative, disparaging and secret info on them, snooping in their lives and projects. IRS hassles, accusing one of false crimes, negatively doctoring a person’s personal and work records are all means for the Illuminati to gain superiority over individuals and to make them cede to their goals. Driving opponents or dissenters mad or to the point of paranoia is one of their prized exercises.

2. Population Control: Invented food shortages, water contamination, lack of space, depletion of “green” are maneuvers to slice off 2/3rd of the world’s six-billion citizens, and save themselves, while allowing death and other horrors to befall the other 4-billion. Subtle means of ending our existence include abortion (Planned Parent is the main culprit), genetic engineering (cloning allows engineers to create an army of soldiers bred to have massive muscle bulk, superior senses, powerful killing skills or to breed doubles to replace people; it also introduces chimeras (hybrid animal/human forms), and angels of death (ridding hospitals, clinics — the general population — of infirmed and old people who put burdens on our society. Euthanasia is a form of this, as are fatal surgical procedures).

3. Contamination: Any form of poisoning will kill a sizeable population, and this can be targeted. The elite can contaminate our water supplies and food resources (genetically modified food may be exemplary), and despoil our land (soil impregnated with bacteria, oil and other toxic spills).

4. Detainment Camps are set up as holding areas until termination ensues or the enslavement of those in society they believe will serve as strong and vital slaves. Whether factual or not, that we even believe they exist puts us in a state of fear and anger. Underlying the knowledge of such Gulags is the simple fact that the American populace realizes that a police state or Martial Law is on the horizon.

5. Moral Corruption has been and remains a major technique for bringing about the New World Order, with all its anti-Americanism, anti-patriotism, and anti-traditionalism going on. Destruction of home-taught values has been aligned with the new educational dockets in government schools. Relative values rule over old-fashioned, family-oriented absolute values…what is morally, ethically and legally right and wrong (“Whatever feels right to you, do it, even if it isn’t”).

6. Diversity: This refers to forcing us to show tolerance, understanding and acceptance for values we do not believe in. “Political correctness” was the thrust for this. Censorship and hate crimes are also a means for forcing undesirable changes down our throats.

7. Racial Dissention: This is a method they use to create conflict among races and nationalities, as in “Divide and conquer. ”

8. Removal of God: The Elite work hard to prohibit us from making any reference to God or Christ and the sacredness of Christianity in public but yet they promote pagan holidays, Wicca, black magic and practice Satanism. A society lacking in God and spirituality — especially one supposedly built on Christianity — is a doomed civilization, and one that easily cedes to others. Apostasy in our churches, especially Catholicism, is a sign of the destruction foisted on us. Their goal is to reach back to the Ancient Mysteries, and to learn what they believe are advanced technologies from ancient aliens and gods

9. Ecumenism is another parameter for a one-world religion. Believing that Christ is not the savior, or that other people or so called “prophets” are the saviors makes Christianity invalid. Some believe New Ageism will be the one-world religion, while others think global warming with become the hymn. An aspect of their plan is their contrived apocalypse based on the books of Revelation and Daniel.

10. Remiss Authority Figures: Many parents and adults fear today’s youth. Kids scream, yell, mock, and often physically abuse their parents or other elders. They’re rude and disrespectful. Much of this is attributed to the “It takes a village to raise a child” mentality, where children are supposed to be cuddled, free-thinking, and do whatever they want. Parents and authority have become remiss in correcting foul children. The Elite encourage children to resist authority, on one hand, while wanting them to mindlessly obey, on the other.

11. Failing Educational System: Education is the key approach for altering children’s beliefs of what is right and wrong through mind control programs, rewriting history, introducing alternative and debased sexual teachings, and false ideologies. This conditions them to accept whatever the Powers lay before them, and they are dumbeddown so that they won’t learn the truth and rebel.

12. Sexual Perversion is used to advance Elitists’ goals and degrade our morals, getting us to accept and even adopt anything they put on us, and often using such activity to blackmail us.

13. Drugs/Alcohol: Breeding a society of chemically abused and dependent individuals is one way to get people to accept matters contrary to their morals, and to rely on the government to help them get through it. Addiction robs us financially and psychologically while diverting law enforcement efforts to other areas. Prescribed medicine makes us reliant on pills and doctors while ballooning Big Pharma profits.

14. Gambling: Promoting illegal activities through pretenses of “enjoyment” and promises of making big money is yet another scheme by the Elitist to keep us dependent on money and materialism for our happiness, and to be dependent on outside forces for our happenings and success.

15. Chaos is a maneuver to keep us bewildered. By putting events and activities in a framework of utter turmoil where no one knows what to do, who to believe, or on whom to rely, the Powers can emerge as the saviors by offering solutions to the chaos they have secretly exacted. Conflicting issues via the Hegelian Dialectics keep the masses on edge, doubting, and confused, as well as sidetracked from the real issues they want to forward.

16. Cover-ups: What the Illuminati don’t want us to know, they cover up by disposing of the people, making them “disappear, ” or placing vital documents under “classified, ” or through throwing out red herrings at us. Whistleblowers are often destroyed career-wise, or personally mocked, or injured, and even murdered. Underground and black ops are keys to cover-ups. Propagation of conspiracies is a game for them and a way for them to conflict the masses. Intentional leaks are one of their prescribed methods for conditioning us to their intent and for confusing us.

17. Environment: Using global warming as a “unifying issue, ” the Illuminati are not only making scads of money through corporate green programs and retail merchandise, but also deceiving people into believing that the issue is real, when in reality hundreds of scientists who are not given print can testify against it. Thus the environment is used as a weapon to employ the Elitist’s objectives and to create a common mantra — a religion of its own. Added to this are sustainable development and eminent domain (taking commoners’ lands for their own purposes), and controlled weather (HAARP — High frequency Active Auroral Research Program and other weather weapons), among other processes.

18. Destroying the Workforce: Damaging treaties (GATT, NAFTA, etc. ) created the massive loss of jobs in our country via outsourcing and the erosion of our industries. America has been minimized as a strong nation and castrated as a super power. Jobs have been given to illegal immigrants in our country or sent overseas to India and China and other nations. Americans struggle financially as the Elitists lower us to third world status. Illegal immigration is just one of their schemes for running the world.

19. Crimes: A society frightened of being murdered, raped, beaten, held hostage, hijacked, or kidnapped, or victims of vehicular deaths, road rage, and “suicided, ” among other abominable offenses, is a society wailing for security, in spite of lost rights. This, then, is just one more method of cuckolding us into ceding our rights to Big Brother. The ICC (International Criminal Court) was created to imprison people of different cultures, including Americans. The protection of hard core, guilty criminals is also symptomatic of a failing country.

20. Terrorism: The Powers keep us in a state of trepidation over terrorism — real or contrived — and cause us to cede our freedoms for protection. 2001’s 9/11 caused a major breakdown of the U. S. Constitution, the infringement of rights and policies through Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, biochips, and soon-to-come Martial Law; hence, the concentration camps for those who balk against the Police State or promote dissension.

21. Slavery and Prostitution: Many people, especially younger ones, are rounded up in clandestine ways and are forced into slavery or prostitution. They may be stolen during the night, taken coming and going from school, or whisked off in parking lots. They are often earmarked by the Powers who want young maidens or lads to “entertain” visiting dignitaries or foreign VIPs who abuse the kids and sell them to slave masters, pimps, and other black market factions. Some researchers believe that these missing people have even been sacrificed in satanic rituals.

22. Genocide is a method for wiping out an entire society for depopulation purposes, for government gain, for eliminating enemies, for creating a super race by purging traits deemed negative. Genocide, then, is an effective way for the Elite to sort out which people they want and which they don’t; it gets rid of the unwanted in one fell swoop. Some of their methods include random extermination (holocausts) and heinous atrocities, creating insurrections to kill off a religious or racial group, and holocausts.

23. Decision Makers: The Illuminati’s power shores them up to decide who the next president or prime minister will be, who will receive grants and government funding, and anything else that affect us on a personal and national level.

24. Diseases: Bacteria and viruses can be released during either war or peace time to create a chaos and a demand for protection that would help the powers to achieve their mission of globalism; bio-warfare can be reserved for combat when the substances are unleashed on enemies. Besides using bacteria in germ warfare, they also test substances on humans, some unknowingly. The introduction of HIV, the rise of once eliminated childhood diseases, biochem warfare, and the growing number of unknown bacterial and viral diseases are representative of their manipulations. They can put substances into drinking water; they’ve introduced cell phones knowing the dangers of cancer; and they’ve used microwaves and other technologies against us, as well as various forms of experimentation.

25. Computerization/Technology: The Elite have many classified means of controlling us, though some are still in the trial stages. Consider nanochips (teeny tiny robots can be placed in humans to control them), robotic reproduction (the ability of robots and computers to reproduce), and GTWA (Global Technology World Alliance which is a secret society developing and working with advanced technology to achieve control and denomination of international supremacy and economics. Bluetooth, Wii and other high-tech tools, along with laser and advanced weaponry (stun guns, particle beams) are also tools for fully establishing the NWO. The Elite have secret labs and black ops; yet, they won’t support scientists and researchers who create inventions or medications for the good of mankind.

26. UFOs: Whether truly from another planet or invented by the government, they can be used to instill paralyzing dread in us if they tell us that an invasion is real. Quickly we would give up all our rights to be protected from enemies.

27. Economy: In order for the Elite to completely take over the world, they have to capture the economic sector to create a one-world economy, as seen in the collapse of the American dollar, along with merging the U. S. , Canada and America into one of the ten regions. These ten regions each will have a representative on a governing panel, with one member emerging as a dictator. Many of the other ten regions have already been set up. Elitists manipulate the stock market and all other monetary resources; they own the Federal Reserve, and control all international currencies, determining what your paycheck will be worth.

28. Feminism and Working Mothers: From the moment the Powers decided to use left-wing feminism as a way to cause resentment between men and women and their children, is the moment when the institution of marriage faltered. Two incomes gave Mom and Dad the false sense that they had money, and thus materialism also seeped into our lives at the same time. The role of males has been re-defined and belittled.

29. UN: Most damaging for American citizens is the UN which strives to undermine our country, reduce our spending power, eliminate our freedoms, lower us to third world status, make us pay for other countries’ problems, and rape of us of everything that once made us powerful. Doing this allows the NWO to weaken the most prevailing muscle in the world so that we have no strength to fight any of their programs.

30. Confiscation of Rights: The NWO Elitists can’t fully stage their takeover until our country is disarmed, as an armed citizenry can fight back. The day they take our guns is the total end of our sovereignty and our country.

31. Secret societies serve to unite the Elitists in their demise of our nation and the installation of a global government via their networking force and underground operations, as well as control over religious, educational and corporate systems. They will never admit that these societies exist and that they are the muscle behind the authority. Symbolism is one facet of them, and they use newspapers, radio airwaves, and TV to subliminally pass messages to one another.

32. Mind Control: The government and their counterparts are most adept in brainwashing techniques using a litany of resources, such as drugs (MKUltra, LSD), projects (Project Monarch, Phoenix), propaganda (constant bombardment of untruths and omissions by the media), cults/programming (groups giving up their individuality and blindly following some unstable leader), and video games, rock music, violence and witchcraft on TV, such as Harry Potter. Even works of fine art are polluted with vulgarity and crude innuendos. Societies have agents and sleepers everywhere.

33. Media Mergers: The Illuminati own all the major media in print, television, radio, music, and theater. They create conglomerates and monopolies. Doing this gives them control over everything we watch, read, and listen to.

34. Corrupt Government: CIA drugs and arm smuggling, bought politicians, undercover dealings, disinformation, lies and distortions, blackmail, constant deceptions are all part of their bid for a one world government. Disinformation is a major means of confusing us, which they do through false media reports, chain letters, the articles they place on the internet, and the rumors they start.

35. Lack of Missile Defense: An unarmed America is akin to a fire in a theater with no exits. While other countries are building their arsenals, we’re minimizing ours. Disarmament and the decline of our militia, and thus our ability to defend ourselves, certainly mean defeat even before a conflict breaks out.

36. Decline of Military: Our military lacks the self-confidence, the manpower, the equipment and the technology needed to fight opposing forces, and is compromised in morality and morale through unnecessary wars that are not intended to be won.

37. Passing of EOs: EOs (Executive Orders), PDs (Presidential Directives), and PDDs (Presidential Decision Directives) have become so amorphous and customary that no one cares when a new one is enacted. This is an Illuminati tactic to proceed with their personal agendas without first obtaining congressional approval; thus allowing extreme orders to be written that would prove detrimental to the general public. For example, a single EO could dissolve the entire United States.

38. Infiltration: The Illuminati use subtlety to invade churches, schools, corporations, small businesses, organizations, and everything else, and implant their ideology and philosophy of a one-world government through well honed issues, such as global warming. They have their “people” (often members of their secret societies) placed throughout these entities who make decisions beneficial to the Elitists.

39. Regional Government: One of the most effective means for the Powers to gain control and implement their global rule is through regional government where they give mandates to mayors and municipal managers via documents on how matters must be handled. Law enforcement, attorneys and judges are part of the scenario.

40. Created or Contrived Crises: Whether actual or devised, crises “seem real” to us. False or deliberate crises work to scare us and allow the Illuminists to achieve their goals, such as re-designing New Orleans to their desire, or going to Iraq for oil and the take-over of their banks for the Federal Reserve. Examples include global warming, the energy crisis, floods, hurricanes (they can control the weather), and any other disaster they desire.

 

frankyscouser
Good find herbie, all make sense like the 40 examples mentioned who ever is pulling the strings is into everything.
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HERBIE
TY franky
When you read the 40 you can't help but say to yourself "this is all happening now", its a scary world we live in especially when you know what's to come.
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Discussion #4998Talk Sense

14 Sep 2014 06:43:15
{Ed033's Note - Hollywoodism documentary - how hollywood was created in 8 parts.

Please note, it appears that parts 2,3,4,6,7,8 may not be available to you for viewing. If anyone finds the entire documentary intact on youtube or elsewhere, please send in the link.

Part 1 of 8

 

frankyscouser
Sorry just checked fox have blocked it because of copyright grounds, only part 1 and 5 seems to be working, the amount of Hollywood documentaries that are OK to view but this is not, think we know the reason why.
{Ed033's Note - yes, just like in the film, A Few Good Men, they can't handle the truth.
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Couldn't find the documentary but was able to find the book it was based on.
Neal Gabler
An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood
http://tinyurl.com/k8b5pot
zari
{Ed033's Note - thanks zari
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