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Discussion #10702Talk Sense

12 Jun 2014 13:42:03
a few months back, february I think, someone posted regarding some forms to 'see off' debt collection agencies. i'm just wondering how they got on? if the forms are genuine and do work?

my business partner has done a runner, taking a lot of funds with him. looks like i'm going to have to close my business. due to this, I have debts, or will have debts, that I can't manage. they'll take me 20+ years to pay off and I will be defaulted anyway as I can't make the minimum pymts. i'm thinking of just taking the hit on my credit file for 6years. or until I get my hands on my ex-business partner!

any help would be much appreciated

Joe

 

{Ed001's Note - they worked for me to get rid of some making fraudulent claims against me.}
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{Ed033's Note - If you want to view the letters - Letter 1 to debt collector



When they write back, fill in as appropriate and send them Letter 2 to debt collector

Debt collectors typically write back a further 5 times before giving up or passing/selling the alleged debt on.

When they write back, you can either ignore them or send them letter 2 with an updated invoice amount

It's possible that if you have a vehicle registered in your name, a debt collector may attempt to take the vehicle as a lien, so if you're going to do the above, it's best to change the name of the registered keeper.

In a worse case scenario, if you own a house/property in your name that has no mortgage on it, the debt collector may attempt to obtain a 'court' order against the house/property and could succeed if you ignore 'court' letters to you.
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I used these and haven't heard back from them, great results. Cheers Ed.

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Discussion #10701Talk Sense

12 Jun 2014 12:21:57
Still don't see how 9/11 is a conspiracy, I saw what I saw on the news that day and only a lit will change my mind on that lol. I clearly saw planes fly into buildings, maybe there was bombs but why rule out that Osama put bombs in the building as well

Gary

 

{Ed001's Note - ah well if you seen it with your own eyes, oh no wait you saw it on TV! In Germany, during the Nazi era, the Germans were faking news reports, with fake footage, why do you think it would be so difficult to do now? Or do you believe Captain America and the Avengers really saved the world from aliens too? What you saw was no more reliable than a film.}
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{Ed033's Note - Look in the video below. Was Tupac alive in 2012?. I clearly saw Tupac dancing and signing with my own eyes in the video below. Oh wait, it's a hologram!

Tupac Hologram Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre Perform, Coachella 2012

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What about the people who witnessed the event? I have met people who where their. The thing the always remember was the noise of the planes more than the actual explosion. Your poll yday was about movies that predicted the future, so in a way, the avengersand like are preparing us for this alien invasion u are all do keen to happen (wasn't it ment to happen at the 2012 Olympics?)

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{Ed001's Note - the noise of the planes is what they remember, not seeing them. It has been shown that eyewitness accounts will often be based on their experiences, rather than what they truly saw, and so they are unreliable anyway. If a plane had hit the building, would the explosion not have been considerable and you would expect them to hear that over any engine noise!

As for alien invasions, I fail to see the relevance and I have said nothing about them nor the Olympics, so stop trying to flame things to get a reaction, because it is just a pathetic way to avoid discussing things rationally. You fail to make any kind of point.}
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Its difficult to know where to begin with the OP so I won't bother. We've had many debates on the subject which can be found using the search function. I ask any person who believes the official version of 9/11 to watch 'september 11 - the new pearl harbour' on youtube as its a good, basic starting point to raising many questions. I always suggest this to doubters on here, including AP I believe? but am yet to get a response which suggests they don't watch it. I wonder why?

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Discussion #9404Talk Sense

12 Jun 2014 11:00:03
As I am relatively new to the site I have had to research a couple of the topics mentioned and wanted some extra guidance etc. I understand what a false flag event is but could you perhaps give me some examples of these and how they were used in this way. I have seen both Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing mentioned in this respect and wanted some extra reading material. I'm enjoying the site, I feel I have contributed pretty well but not on the same scale as other posters.

 

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Sandy hook was around the time the government wanted to challenge the second amendment about people defending themselves and of course there was uproar about the shootings (if they really got murdered ) that's another story, the subplot about these attacks is to disarm the million or so people who legally carry firearms in america, why? simple once martial law is declared its going to be a hell of a lot easier if people are unarmed.

Boston was just a little reminder there are guys who want to bomb us, if you remember that time snowdon and manning went public as more Americans came home in body bags as taxes rose and people wanted there boys and girls home plus add to the fact when these type of eents happen new laws get passed undetected for instance if you are from a minority race in a part of town when a bomb goes off now you can be held without any trial or help, everything happens for a reason.
{Ed033's Note - 9/11 was False flag and the book to read is Dr. Judy Wood's book Where did the Towers go!

7/7 was a false flag and the book to read is Prof. Nicholas Kollerstrom book Terror n the Tube

Prof. Nicholas Kollerstrom and David Shayler video talking about the anomolys in the official 7/7 story.

7/7 Revisited Part 1 of 6

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Geordiesteve
Do you feel that the declaration of martial law in the US is imminent Frankie, what indications and/or reasons would you cite?
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Within the next ten years I reckon martial law will be declared, why?simple answer is America is bankrupt, middle class people are losing there homes and things will get a hell of a lot worse and like I have mentioned many times homeland security (police) have bought 20 years worth of arms also add the fema camps, they are prepared.
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Discussion #10700Talk Sense

12 Jun 2014 09:48:19
I think Enemy of the State is very exaggerated though admittedly great fun.

An earlier Gene Hackman film, 'The Conversation' is probably more plausible. For those of you who haven't seen it, it's an often overlooked little gem, directed by Coppola when he was at his peak.

Ryan.

 

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frankyscouser
I disagree Ryan by the way it was directed by tony Scott who killed himself two years ago I think, enemy of the state was a movie I could have used in yesterdays poll with technology the CIA use that is not admitted to, no doubt Hollywood jazz it up but the subtext is there and big brother can and is used for the wrong purposes.
{Ed001's Note - actually Enemy of the State vastly underestimated the amount of surveillance that is done by the CIA. Far from exaggerated, it was underplaying what goes on.}
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12 Jun 2014 13:39:15
Ed001 is quite correct. Given the film in question is almost 20 years old and they could do far more than shown, imagine the toys they have now.

CIA was always far more reliant on toys and technology than say Britain or Russia but they could be given the budgets.

Business trips to America were always tension filled and fraught with stress as you just never knew if you were being watched. And I'm talking 80s to mid 90s. Wouldn't fancy it nowadays!

Kim Philby
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Franky I meant more the plot line than the tech used. Obviously all the hi tech stuff is well within their grasp, and then some.

Ryan.
{Ed001's Note - is that exaggerated though? If anything it is probably shy of the truth, where people just disappear or 'commit suicide' when the powers that be want rid. Just remember Dr David Kelly, that is the kind of thing that happens, because people can never get away in the first place to go on the run.}
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13 Jun 2014 00:37:25
I imagine it happens far more than most people imagine. Very easy to arrange for people to have accidents, car crash due to mechanical failure, mugging gone wrong, small aircraft have such poor safety records, suicide, plenty of ways to remove someone who's a problem and make it look like a tragic incident.

Then there's plenty of people kept in line through blackmail. Nice little honey trap involving two hookers, a bag of coke, a hotel room and a hidden camera and bingo, you end up owning someone. Heck its how most intelligence assets are recruited. KGB were specialists. Look up swallows if your interested. As in the birds.

And as technology moves on so it gets easier. How long before the tvs from 1984 are fitted as standard?

Kim Philby
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Geordiesteve
Surely Kim they already are in a sense as your smart phone/web cam can be remotely hacked without your knowledge already.
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Discussion #9142Talk Sense

11 Jun 2014 18:12:22
yes movies get pointers to black technology from
Skype - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Touch Interface - Minority Report
Military Robots - Short Circuit
Smartphones/PDAs - Star Trek: The Original Series
Digital Billboards - Blade Runner
Siri - 2001: A Space Odyssey

and prob loads more.

 

{Ed001's Note - 2001 also had tablet computers in it Franky.}
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Did it?space odyssey a truly ground breaking movie.
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Geordiesteve
Minority reports also had targeted advertising, as Cruise's character walks through the concourse.
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Stanley Kubrick definitely had some inside knowledge. There was a very interesting video link posted by ed033 some time ago on that matter.
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Discussion #10699Talk Sense

11 Jun 2014 10:37:00
{Ed033's Note - Carl Munck - The Code, video presentation showing that mathematical codes are built into the major ancient monuments all around Earth.

 

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There is evidence of it within nature too. The golden ratio is believed to be involved in 'intelligent design' throughout the world, from the ratio of bee in a hive to the size and spacing on a Nautilus shell.
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{Ed033's Note - yes, and if you watch this video, you can see the ancient monuments have built in to them (mathematically), exactly where they are located on Earth
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This is one of my favourite topcs, it fascinates me. I remember it features havily in the paintings and work of Da Vinci too
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Discussion #10698Talk Sense

10 Jun 2014 17:19:01
The poll today, so far 50/50 on was Osama already dead?

Surprised by that to be honest. I just found the way it was reported and carried out in secret dubious from the start. I don't understand the sea burial thing, the lack of evidence/proof and I certainly don't believe we did it that way out of respect! Which they claimed

I think he was either killed during the first round of attacks in 2001/2002 or some believe he died of disease circa 2004? They kept him 'alive' as a justification fir the I going war mongering IMO.

Harold

 

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frankyscouser
Bin laden died many years ago in my opinion, not going to go in to detail why because I have wrote my views many times, to people who disagree check out why it was more beneficial to think he was alive.
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What was the attack in Pakistan all about then? Surely they wouldn't have lost a helicopter if they faked it, ahh, wait, I seen that on the news so that helicopter was a hologram/missile I guess

AP
{Ed033's Note - the attack in Pakistan, could have been any US military operation and the excuse for the attack was bin laden. (this happened to coincide when obama's public rating was low). There are military attacks on pakistan by the USA, quite often, mostly drone attacks nowadays it appears.

The only reason for the hologram/missile theory on 9/11 is because how else can anyone explain how a real plane and its thin aluminium wings can 'melt' completely whole into a steel framed building (which is what we all saw) and at an impossible speed as at building level, that plane could not fly at that speed. Those planes do not have the power to fly at that speed at that low altitude
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What was the attack in Pakistan?

I'm not sure, you'd need some pretty impressive clearance to get hold of that kind of inside info. so, does not knowing automatically mean it was like they said on the news?

Not sure I follow your logic there. Both I and Franky explained our thought process clearly Imo.

Harold
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Interviews with locals in Attabad portray a much different scenario to the one we were given by the reliable, honest and non agenda driven mainstream media, who wouldn't dream of misleading us because they have our best interests at heart, and only want to give us the news, the whole news and nothing but the news, so help their ratings.

Ryan.
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Has there ever been in history, a plane of what is said to have been hijacked flown into a building at a reasonable speed? Only then can it be properly judged as a total fake. So until such time there will be many who believe in what they seen and not some claim that it was a hologram/lazer beam destruction that created nothing but dust. And as for bin laden, surely keeping him 'alive' would have been more beneficial? Why announce his 'death' to suit Obama?

AP
{Ed001's Note - there has been a plane that flew into the Empire State Building, it did little damage and since then all buildings in the city were built specifically to withstand plane crashes.}
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Discussion #10696Talk Sense

09 Jun 2014 21:05:48
Hi guys,
Just a quick one, know it's been covered, and tried to remember most the stuff at the time, but.
Today, me and the wife had a 20wk scan. (All fine, 3rd boy).
After wards, was asked if we could spare 5 mins, to answer some question from a lass who was there doing research. Ok.
It was all about fluoride. Seemingly, west Cumbria has extra fluoride in tap water, whilst north cumbria does not. She said how it's proven fluoride is good for teeth, and that's why it's in toothpaste etc. But university of Manchester, with NHS cumbria, want to check to see if it makes a difference or not in tap water. Our baby would get free checks at 3 and 5 yr old. Said no thanks, but first thought was it has been mentioned on here. Wasn't expecting anything like this whilst going for a scan.

 

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frankyscouser
First of all congrats on your new baby and secondly well done on swerving the research shill.
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Discussion #10695Talk Sense

09 Jun 2014 18:21:52
What do people think of the Birmingham schools plot?

 

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frankyscouser
Plot ha, the good old war on terror stories rear there heads every so often.
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10 Jun 2014 00:36:12
Actually franky for once your wrong. There was something sinister afoot with those schools. Watch the interview with the kids. Personally I feel religion has no place in schools, that's the prents responsibility
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Franky
Do you not believe in this? After all is it not all part of the divide and conquer logic?
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Not looked at this in great detail but in terms of the war on terror more generally, IMO it was invented/designed in the 1st place as a justification for the wars in the middle east. The problem being even if that is the case the self fulfilling prophecy ensures that such events are now more likely to occur (as the west constantly slings mud at the muslim countries/race, raising I'll feeling) which is really bad because 1) it muddies the water with regards the truth and 2) it now gives valid justification for things which were based on a fictional justification in the first place.

The whole thing gets more complex to unravel the further on in time we go, I just wish people would wake up and realise they are being conditioned by rags like the daily fail.

Harold
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HERBIE
Was it Colonel gaddafi all those decades ago that said along the lines of "we must beat the enemy from within" (infiltrate)
Trying to change the mindset of school children would be a great place to start.
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Discussion #9141Talk Sense

09 Jun 2014 17:49:46
boston bombing was a false flag event in my opinion definitely yes.

 

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I'm amazed two people voted no. It was the falsest of false flags.

Ryan.
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Agree with you both, an amateurish false flag in many ways.

Harold
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It was not nearly as bad as Sandy Hook, but it is a close second.
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frankyscouser
Its prob the same people who disagree about everything on here.
{Ed033's Note - The mainstreamers who believe everything the mainstream put out. i.e. Just finished researching 9/11 and it happened exactly the way the BBC said it did.
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HERBIE
Without doubt a false flag situation.
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Discussion #9140Talk Sense

09 Jun 2014 15:08:25
just read this and a short 5 min video about a 3 meter great white shark being tagged then its tag being washed up 4 months later and when they looked at the data it showed that its temperature rose suddenly and the only thing that could do that was it was in the stomach of another animal, I have watched wildlife shows and I know orcas/killer whales kill great white sharks but they tend to tag team and exhaust great whites then take bits of it and even your biggest killer whale is not going to swallow a 3 meter shark whole, definitely think there are huge monsters deep in the ocean.

http://www.tntdownunder.com/news/australia/filmmakers-hunt-great-white-shark-killer

 

{Ed001's Note - they don't tag team and exhaust them at all. They simply turn them upside down and put them into catatonic immobility then eat them while they can do nothing. It wouldn't need to swallow the Great White whole, just eat the bit with the tag on.}
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Fair point edd but I do think there are undiscovered predictors in the oceans.
{Ed001's Note - there might well be, but you can only assume that this is one of those, as these marine biologists seem to have done, if the evidence rules out all known possibilities. Right now the evidence points to it being simply down to a Killer Whale. In my opinion they are just looking for a bit of publicity and funding by whipping up hysteria.}
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Didnt it stay submerged for a week?
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They only eat their liver anyway ed. and it also said that an Orcas temperature is different to that of the tag, they think it was killed by something that isn't a mammal.

maybe a giants squid?

JK92
{Ed001's Note - that is not true, they eat more than the liver, there is video footage of an Orca sharing its kill with young Orcas and they defo ate more than the liver. As for the temperature, I very much doubt they have accurate data on the internal temp of the stomach while it is digesting a meal and diving. If the suggestion is that the creature is likely not to be warm blooded, then that is likely to rule out a large shark anyway, the chances are a large predatory shark would not be truly cold blooded, Great Whites certainly are not. As for a Giant Squid, I would love that to be true, as they fascinate me, but are they really that capable a killer? After all, they are hunted by Sperm Whales, which are a very large and powerful species, but I would think a Great White would be able to put up a noticeable fight against one, at the very least? Maybe I am wrong, but it just seems they are jumping to conclusions in order to stoke up some research money to me.}
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Probably just trying to get publicity ed.

Giant/Colossal squid can apparently grow over 60ft, I saw a video where they think one the caught on camera could be 110ft! incredible if true. fascinating creatures, that we hardly know anything about.

JK92.
{Ed001's Note - I saw that program, they really do fascinate me, but size is no help to them against Sperm Whale. It would be intriguing to find out if they really are able to hunt and kill Great Whites, but it would seem unlikely as they don't seem to spend enough time in the same areas of water. It is an interesting suggestion though, certainly can't be ruled out, as there is nothing to say yes or no.}
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The thing is though ed, even if one did grow big enough to kill a sperm whale. how would we ever know, too deep and a lot of animals down there to eat up the evidence.

JK92
{Ed001's Note - well we know that Sperm Whales main diet is Giant Squid, so it is unlikely they do grow big enough.}
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